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| J... |
 Posted: Thu Oct 29, 2009 10:51 pm |
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Perhaps it is time to set a national standard for obscenity. This is one
time when it will be necessary to join church and state.
http://www.onenewsnow.com/Legal/Default.aspx?id=744464
A 'national standard' for obscenity?
The Ninth U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals has issued a controversial ruling on
pornography cases.
The case involves e-mail spam and a federal law dealing with it. Pat
Trueman, special counsel for the Alliance Defense Fund (ADF), tells
OneNewsNow about the case.
"The two defendants were convicted under the Can-Spam Act, which prohibits
individuals from spamming you in your e-mail account," reports Trueman. "But
these two individuals were spamming people with hardcore pornography, so
there was the additional charge of obscenity."
The court upheld the conviction, but also ruled that a national standard --
rather than community standard -- must be used in determining whether
something is obscene. Trueman worries that with such a ruling, defense
attorneys will now tell jury members they cannot determine whether something
is obscene unless that has already been determined.
"In other words, the defense attorney wants to say to the jury, 'You can't
find my client guilty of violating a national standard because you don't
know what the national standard is,'" Trueman determines.
According to the ADF attorney, the way these cases have previously been
handled has been on the basis of local community standards. But Trueman
suggests that if the Ninth Circuit's ruling stands, it could make
convictions far more difficult than they currently are. He is hopeful the
decision will be appealed
"Copyright 2009 American Family News Network - Used by permission."
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J Young
Jvisions at (no spam) live.com |
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| Syd M.... |
| Posted: Thu Oct 29, 2009 10:51 pm |
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On Oct 30, 12:51 am, "J" <Jvisi... at (no spam) live.com> wrote:
Quote: Perhaps it is time to set a national standard for obscenity.
Perhaps it's time for you and your bully theists priests and pope to
mind you own fucking business, Junkie Young.
PDW |
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| Jenny6833A... |
| Posted: Thu Oct 29, 2009 10:51 pm |
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On Oct 29, 9:51�pm, "J" <Jvisi... at (no spam) live.com> wrote:
Quote: Perhaps it is time to set a national standard for obscenity.
Uhh, you mean we might move towards becoming a country instead of a
loose amalgamation of villages, cities, counties, and states -- each
with their own set of laws?
:-)
Jenny |
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| ed wolf... |
| Posted: Thu Oct 29, 2009 10:51 pm |
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On 30 Okt., 05:51, "J" <Jvisi... at (no spam) live.com> wrote:
Quote: Perhaps it is time to set a national standard for obscenity. This is one
time when it will be necessary to join church and state.
-snip
Great idea, good reason!
Which church is suited best setting new standards for
obscenity? I think in a fair and open process churches
had to apply and state what makes them experts,
before they can join a National Commission for
Standardizing Obscenity. I suggest the commissions
first step should be an evaluation of personal offendability
with standardized material. Only if every citizen knows
his Offendability-Profile he/she can choose the registered
evaluated products according to the NCSO- Label.
( "not suitable for porn > 6 ; pc > 8 ; relgn ev >3 ;
relgn rc > 4;creatn > 6 ; GOP > 3 ")
eager to start working
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| ed wolf... |
| Posted: Thu Oct 29, 2009 10:51 pm |
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On 30 Okt., 05:51, "J" <Jvisi... at (no spam) live.com> wrote:
Quote: Perhaps it is time to set a national standard for obscenity. This is one
time when it will be necessary to join church and state.
-snip
Great idea, good reason!
Which church is suited best setting new standards for
obscenity? I think in a fair and open process churches
had to apply and state what makes them experts,
before they can join a National Commission for
Standardizing Obscenity. I suggest the commissions
first step should be an evaluation of personal offendability
with standardized material. Only if every citizen knows
his Offendability-Profile he/she can choose the registered
evaluated products according to the NCSO- Label.
( "not suitable for porn > 6 ; pc > 8 ; relgn ev >3 ;
relgn rc > 4;creatn > 6 ; GOP > 3 ")
eager to start working
ed |
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| Enos Penvy... |
| Posted: Thu Oct 29, 2009 10:51 pm |
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On Oct 30, 12:51 am, "J" <Jvisi... at (no spam) live.com> wrote:
Quote: Perhaps it is time to set a national standard for obscenity.
Hmm. That should piss off the conservatives, who are all about
states' rights.
Quote: This is one
time when it will be necessary to join church and state.
That would be unconstitutional. So... No. |
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| Uncle Vic... |
| Posted: Thu Oct 29, 2009 10:59 pm |
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One fine day in alt.atheism, "J" <Jvisions at (no spam) live.com> wrote:
Quote: Perhaps it is time to set a national standard for obscenity. This is one
time when it will be necessary to join church and state.
Why do you want to join church and state? That goes against the Bill of
Rights, and the entire purpose of America. What, are you an idiot?
Perhaps you should renounce your American citizenship and move to Iran,
where your concept of theocracy would be widely accepted.
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Uncle Vic
aa Atheist #2011
Christians are like Slinkys. They're boring, but they'll put a smile on
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| The Chief Instigator... |
| Posted: Thu Oct 29, 2009 11:15 pm |
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On Fri, 30 Oct 2009 00:51:44 -0400, J <Jvisions at (no spam) live.com> wrote:
Quote: Perhaps it is time to set a national standard for obscenity. This is one
time when it will be necessary to join church and state.
No, it won't, Junkie. No News Now has never been known for being honest.
If there's an actual move towards that, I suggest the miscreants have the
Constitution shoved down their throats, whether they consent or not.
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Patrick L. "The Chief Instigator" Humphrey (patrick at (no spam) io.com) Houston, Texas
www.io.com/~patrick/aeros.php (TCI's 2008-09 Houston Aeros) AA#2273
LAST GAME: Grand Rapids 2, Houston 0 (October 29)
NEXT GAME: Friday, October 30 at Grand Rapids, 6:05 |
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| Ray Fischer... |
| Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2009 12:30 am |
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J <Jvisions at (no spam) live.com> wrote:
Quote: Perhaps it is time to set a national standard for obscenity.
You nazi turds are always looking for a justification of censorship.
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Ray Fischer
rfischer at (no spam) sonic.net |
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| Ray Fischer... |
| Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2009 12:30 am |
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Uncle Vic <address at (no spam) withheld.com> wrote:
Quote: One fine day in alt.atheism, "J" <Jvisions at (no spam) live.com> wrote:
Perhaps it is time to set a national standard for obscenity. This is one
time when it will be necessary to join church and state.
Why do you want to join church and state? That goes against the Bill of
Rights, and the entire purpose of America. What, are you an idiot?
He just hates America.
Quote: Perhaps you should renounce your American citizenship and move to Iran,
where your concept of theocracy would be widely accepted.
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Ray Fischer
rfischer at (no spam) sonic.net |
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| Attila... |
| Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2009 2:19 am |
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On Fri, 30 Oct 2009 00:51:44 -0400, "J" <Jvisions at (no spam) live.com> in
alt.abortion with message-id <38agu2.8u9.17.1 at (no spam) news.alt.net> wrote:
Quote: Perhaps it is time to set a national standard for obscenity.
I see you still want to tell others how to live their lives.
Can all religious symbols head this national list?
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Pro-Choice is Pro-Freedom
Every illegal alien is a criminal.
No amnesty under any name or for any reason.
Deportation upon identification, not work permit or citizenship.
Support H.R. 1940: Birthright Citizenship Act of 2007
Any organizations with any of the following words or phrases in their name should
be avoided at all costs:
Catholic Anything
Citizens for a Responsible Curriculum
Decency
Family - Other than Family Planing
Faith Based Anything
Justice Institute
Liberty
Life
Moral
Parents Television Council
United for Life
Values
Michael Vick should be stripped naked and put in a pit
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| Jimbo... |
| Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2009 2:23 am |
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On Oct 30, 12:51 am, "J" <Jvisi... at (no spam) live.com> wrote:
Quote: Perhaps it is time to set a national standard for obscenity.
Good! Let's start with the statement that the Catholic Church is a
national obscenity, a blight upon the face of all that is decent, and
should be disbaned in this country.
How's that? |
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| Jimbo... |
| Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2009 2:25 am |
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On Oct 30, 8:08 am, duke <duckgumb... at (no spam) cox.net> wrote:
Quote: On Thu, 29 Oct 2009 23:59:33 -0500, Uncle Vic <addr... at (no spam) withheld.com> wrote:
One fine day in alt.atheism, "J" <Jvisi... at (no spam) live.com> wrote:
Perhaps it is time to set a national standard for obscenity. This is one
time when it will be necessary to join church and state.
Why do you want to join church and state? That goes against the Bill of
Rights, and the entire purpose of America. What, are you an idiot?
We're trying to get you to clean up your act
When you've cleaned up your act, then you can complain about mine.
Your back yard is filthy, and an obscenity. |
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| Jimbo... |
| Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2009 2:26 am |
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On Oct 30, 8:09 am, duke <duckgumb... at (no spam) cox.net> wrote:
Quote: On 30 Oct 2009 05:15:46 GMT, The Chief Instigator <patr... at (no spam) io.com> wrote:
On Fri, 30 Oct 2009 00:51:44 -0400, J <Jvisi... at (no spam) live.com> wrote:
Perhaps it is time to set a national standard for obscenity. This is one
time when it will be necessary to join church and state.
No, it won't, Junkie. No News Now has never been known for being honest.
If there's an actual move towards that, I suggest the miscreants have the
Constitution shoved down their throats, whether they consent or not.
If you show inappropriate material on the public waves, you lose your license to
operate.
If a church enables, protects, and provide pedophiles with new
victims, they should be disbanded, or at the very least have their tax
exempt status revoked. |
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| Syd... |
| Posted: Fri Oct 30, 2009 3:39 am |
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On Oct 30, 8:08 am, duke <duckgumb... at (no spam) cox.net> wrote:
Quote: On Thu, 29 Oct 2009 23:59:33 -0500, Uncle Vic <addr... at (no spam) withheld.com> wrote:
One fine day in alt.atheism, "J" <Jvisi... at (no spam) live.com> wrote:
Perhaps it is time to set a national standard for obscenity. This is one
time when it will be necessary to join church and state.
Why do you want to join church and state? That goes against the Bill of
Rights, and the entire purpose of America. What, are you an idiot?
We're trying to get you to clean up your act for the good of humankind and
children.
No.
Your trying to tell us how to run our lives because your self-serving
busybodies.
PDW |
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