I recommend the John Jay report to you. You have a lot to learn. And, btw,
that report well points out that the pedo problem is no greater, and likely much
less, than any other part of society, especially those dealing with children
like youth leaders, coaches, etc.

On Thu, 05 Nov 2009 06:58:06 -0600, duke <duckgumbo32 at (no spam) cox.net> in
alt.abortion with message-id
1si5f5pab2nga95s7d60q1kktem8c5l7nr at (no spam) 4ax.com> wrote:

I have demanded the Church clean up the house, and it has done so already.


Who are you to demand anything? And what makes you think anyone pays
any attention to your ravings?

** Duke must be important because he talks to the RC God-Jesus every day!

In article <1br5f5dhnipuudb1g0mpp7rgousa2apeqk at (no spam) 4ax.com>, Attila
prochoice at (no spam) here.now> wrote:

On Thu, 05 Nov 2009 06:58:06 -0600, duke <duckgumbo32 at (no spam) cox.net> in
alt.abortion with message-id
1si5f5pab2nga95s7d60q1kktem8c5l7nr at (no spam) 4ax.com> wrote:

I have demanded the Church clean up the house, and it has done so already.


Who are you to demand anything? And what makes you think anyone pays
any attention to your ravings?

** Duke must be important because he talks to the RC God-Jesus every day!

On Fri, 30 Oct 2009 00:51:44 -0400,
"J" <Jvisions at (no spam) live.com> wrote:


Chilton proved himself a MORON again. No surprise.

Idiocy flushed



[[[ DISREGARD the lying and idiotic spam, websites etc. posted
by a
submoron, troller, spammer and abti-Christian Craig Chilton.
HERE is the AUTOMATIC REPLY YOU SHOUD USE ]]]

Duke is a known liar,

Dionisio <moc.rr.thgisni at (no spam) 5ellimd.com> wrote:
Christianity should find and cultivate leaders within the new places it arises and takes
root, yes?
Outsourcing leadership to Nigeria because none of this land's populace seems capable of
being Christian leaders... That's the outsourcing of Christian indoctrination.

Outsourcing leadership to Nigeria? What are you talking about?

The only land that *didn't* -- and apparently *doesn't* -- have that problem is Antarctica.

But man(kind) is the problem, not the priest. That's the point you don't
understand.

(¯`·.¸Craig Chilton¸.·´¯) <www.LayoffRemedy.com>...

On Thu, 05 Nov 2009 09:24:02 -0800, r at (no spam) somis.org (•R.L.Measures) in
alt.abortion with message-id <r-0511090924020001 at (no spam) 10.0.1.7> wrote:

In article <1br5f5dhnipuudb1g0mpp7rgousa2apeqk at (no spam) 4ax.com>, Attila
prochoice at (no spam) here.now> wrote:

On Thu, 05 Nov 2009 06:58:06 -0600, duke <duckgumbo32 at (no spam) cox.net> in
alt.abortion with message-id
1si5f5pab2nga95s7d60q1kktem8c5l7nr at (no spam) 4ax.com> wrote:

I have demanded the Church clean up the house, and it has done so already.


Who are you to demand anything? And what makes you think anyone pays
any attention to your ravings?

** Duke must be important because he talks to the RC God-Jesus every day!


I could find hundreds just like him. In mental institutions and among
the Urban Outdoorsmen.

• It is difficult to over-estimate the power of self-delusion.

On Fri, 6 Nov 2009 10:39:49 +1100,
"Nomen Nescio" <nobody at (no spam) dizum.com> wrote:


(¯`·.¸Craig Chilton¸.·´¯) <www.LayoffRemedy.com>...

You're really OBSESSED with me, aren't you Taylor?

Sorry, but you're not remotely my type.

NOR is any *other* male. But ESPECIALLY not a
moronic and bigoted LOSER like you.

You are Usenet's LAUGHINGSTOCK:

~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*

The PROVEN Dishonesty of Bill Taylor
(As compiled by the poster going by "No One.")

"Leroyblue", aka "bibon," aka Bill Taylor is a bigot who posts regularly
on a variety of newsgroups, and is noted for his lack of manners, his
hatred, his dishonesty, and a characteristic redneck patois that
creeps in every so often. Of course, he denies his real identity (and
the large number of aliases he's used). Since "leroyblue" is simply
his latest identity, most of his real gems will appaer under his
"bibon" and former identities.

This guy is completely shameless. In a post with message ID:
news:ustel318uigdheu19u3ab6n5r4rn4b4fj2 at (no spam) 4ax.com>, he fal-
sified a citation - a reply to his statement showed how (see the post
with Message ID <news:87r6i0mmsy.fsf at (no spam) nospam.pacbell.net> for
the details).

See Message-ID:
news:n5tn72l8p74cfv8vcb8uu848b6ibuav57v at (no spam) 4ax.com> for a
post in which bibon accidentally identified himself as Bill Taylor and
Message ID <news:m3d5dvpb61.fsf at (no spam) nospam.pacbell.net> for
details about how he identified himself. Basically, he claimed that
"Bill Taylor" never received a phone call from some individual, some-
thing only "Bill Taylor" could know, with the phone number in ques-
tion belonging to "our" "Bill Taylor". Others, of course, have
reached the same conclusion.

The really interesting question is why he is so sensitive about "Bill
Taylor" so much more so than all his other numerous identities. :-)

Some of his rantings are just comical. For example, in Message ID:
news:2iell25bqiqgv16irm0ui3a048r8kjeaec at (no spam) 4ax.com>, one of Bill
Taylor's aliases "bibon at (no spam) ralent.org (with a '^' over the 'a') posted an
inadvertent admission that he is gay enough to hire a male prostitute
(whether or not he intended to say that).

However, he's shown his dishonesty time and time again. For one
example, in Message ID
news:skmio2d2lukbv2gkt5q0nqhk230e022r9s at (no spam) 4ax.com>, Bill Taylor
(aka bibon) was caught forging headers,changing "LC" to "LA" and "LB"
in headers he cut and pasted to pretend that "LC" was posting under
multiple identities. You can cross check this claim by using Google
to search for the message IDs. LC's post with Message ID:
news:embjih02o3h at (no spam) enews1.newsguy.com> was attributed by Bill
Taylor to "LA" (but Taylor suppressed part of the message ID by
giving it as <news:embjhn02... at (no spam) enews1.newsguy.com> to make
tracing it difficult).

He also doesn't learn even when called on his behavior. In Message
ID <news:016tu2d0ksk24dsucsvpr22uq4nh2a80br at (no spam) 4ax.com>, bibon
(aka Bill Taylor) pretends a phrase in quotes was written in
news:87ps7kj3oy.fsf at (no spam) nospam.pacbell.net> yet it does not appear
there (<news:87ps7kj3oy.fsf at (no spam) nospam.pacbell.net> is the message
ID of the post that he was responding to, as is clear from the headers
for his post). In message ID:
news:dp22v21m779nvfjdch92nurepkr5ct88vl at (no spam) 4ax.com> he tried
to cover it up by claiming it wasa "mistake", even though the "mistake"
occurred in quoted text (lines starting with '>') that were automatically
inserted by his newsreader. His claim of a "mistake" is as believable
as "my dog ate my homework". Then in a post with message ID:
news:s4d4v29mamrmrstjirqler18libhomhl93 at (no spam) 4ax.com>, he tried to
pretend that he had merely snipped a post incorrectly, even though
the text in question never was in the one he quoted.

(¯`·.¸Craig Chilton¸.·´¯) <www.LayoffRemedy.com>...

Jimbo wrote:
Duke is a known liar,

I know. Why should that prevent me from playing with him?