Cliff <Clhuprichguessw... at (no spam) aoltmovetheperiodc.om> wrote:

other contributors snipped by Cliff.  In a fit of peak no doubt.

http://www.therightperspective.org/2009/10/28/palin-endorses-conserva...
[
Former Alaska governor and GOP vice presidential candidate Sarah Palin has
broken party ranks and endorsed a third-party candidate over his Republican
competitor in an upstate New York congressional race.
]
 " ..  the heavily-Republican district voted for Obama last year,  .. "

 LOL ..  Bull in the china shop ....

The Republicans made a very bad choice some time back and they are
stuck with it.  In the wake of the 2008 election they decided a
conservative didn't have a chance and their only choice was to run a
woman that was so liberal she could out-liberal the Democrats.

Fast forward ten months and the electorate has turned sharply
conservative.  One of the conservative Republicans that didn't get the
nod decided to run on the Conservative Party Line.  The official
Republican is diving for the bottom and the race is between the Dem
and the Conservative.  It's rated too close to call at the moment but
the Conservative is moving up and the Dem is fighting to hold his
percentage.  Could go either way.

Virginia was touted by the Dems as officially moving from R to D in
2008 and this coming gubernatorial election was heralded as when the
that would be sealed forever and ever.  Now it's pretty much conceded
the R is going to win.

The NY governor race is generally conceded to the D at the moment and
has been since the beginning.

The moral of this story is that the Republican leadership is
completely out of touch with the Republican rank and file.  The party
has to crash and rebuild from its grass roots.  This may be a small
start in that direction.  Time to dump the RINO's and run on real
principles instead of just running for power with whatever looks like
it may work at the moment.

Cliff <Clhuprichguesswhat at (no spam) aoltmovetheperiodc.om> wrote:

other contributors snipped by Cliff. In a fit of peak no doubt.

http://www.therightperspective.org/2009/10/28/palin-endorses-
conservative-over-republican/
[
Former Alaska governor and GOP vice presidential candidate Sarah Palin
has broken party ranks and endorsed a third-party candidate over his
Republican competitor in an upstate New York congressional race. ]
" .. the heavily-Republican district voted for Obama last year, .. "

LOL .. Bull in the china shop ....

The Republicans made a very bad choice some time back and they are stuck
with it. In the wake of the 2008 election they decided a conservative
didn't have a chance and their only choice was to run a woman that was
so liberal she could out-liberal the Democrats.

Fast forward ten months and the electorate has turned sharply
conservative. One of the conservative Republicans that didn't get the
nod decided to run on the Conservative Party Line. The official
Republican is diving for the bottom and the race is between the Dem and
the Conservative. It's rated too close to call at the moment but the
Conservative is moving up and the Dem is fighting to hold his
percentage. Could go either way.

Virginia was touted by the Dems as officially moving from R to D in 2008
and this coming gubernatorial election was heralded as when the that
would be sealed forever and ever. Now it's pretty much conceded the R
is going to win.

The NY governor race is generally conceded to the D at the moment and
has been since the beginning.

The moral of this story is that the Republican leadership is completely
out of touch with the Republican rank and file. The party has to crash
and rebuild from its grass roots. This may be a small start in that
direction. Time to dump the RINO's and run on real principles instead
of just running for power with whatever looks like it may work at the
moment.

http://www.therightperspective.org/2009/10/28/palin-endorses-conservative-over-republican/
[
Former Alaska governor and GOP vice presidential candidate Sarah Palin has
broken party ranks and endorsed a third-party candidate over his Republican
competitor in an upstate New York congressional race.
]
" .. the heavily-Republican district voted for Obama last year, .. "

LOL .. Bull in the china shop ....

On Oct 28, 7:30 pm, Winston_Smith <not_r... at (no spam) bogus.net> wrote:
Cliff <Clhuprichguessw... at (no spam) aoltmovetheperiodc.om> wrote:

other contributors snipped by Cliff.  In a fit of peak no doubt.

http://www.therightperspective.org/2009/10/28/palin-endorses-conserva...
[
Former Alaska governor and GOP vice presidential candidate Sarah Palin has
broken party ranks and endorsed a third-party candidate over his Republican
competitor in an upstate New York congressional race.
]
 " ..  the heavily-Republican district voted for Obama last year,  .. "

 LOL ..  Bull in the china shop ....

The Republicans made a very bad choice some time back and they are
stuck with it.  In the wake of the 2008 election they decided a
conservative didn't have a chance and their only choice was to run a
woman that was so liberal she could out-liberal the Democrats.

Fast forward ten months and the electorate has turned sharply
conservative.  One of the conservative Republicans that didn't get the
nod decided to run on the Conservative Party Line.  The official
Republican is diving for the bottom and the race is between the Dem
and the Conservative.  It's rated too close to call at the moment but
the Conservative is moving up and the Dem is fighting to hold his
percentage.  Could go either way.

Virginia was touted by the Dems as officially moving from R to D in
2008 and this coming gubernatorial election was heralded as when the
that would be sealed forever and ever.  Now it's pretty much conceded
the R is going to win.

The NY governor race is generally conceded to the D at the moment and
has been since the beginning.

The moral of this story is that the Republican leadership is
completely out of touch with the Republican rank and file.  The party
has to crash and rebuild from its grass roots.  This may be a small
start in that direction.  Time to dump the RINO's and run on real
principles instead of just running for power with whatever looks like
it may work at the moment.

Which brings us to the question:

What _are_ "real" GOP principles?


Bret Cahill

Once the immoral majority died they were without what they consider

Cliff <Clhuprichguessw... at (no spam) aoltmovetheperiodc.om> wrote:

other contributors snipped by Cliff. In a fit of peak no doubt.

http://www.therightperspective.org/2009/10/28/palin-endorses-conserva...
[
Former Alaska governor and GOP vice presidential candidate Sarah Palin
has
broken party ranks and endorsed a third-party candidate over his
Republican
competitor in an upstate New York congressional race.
]
" .. the heavily-Republican district voted for Obama last year, .. "

LOL .. Bull in the china shop ....

The Republicans made a very bad choice some time back and they are
stuck with it. In the wake of the 2008 election they decided a
conservative didn't have a chance and their only choice was to run a
woman that was so liberal she could out-liberal the Democrats.

Fast forward ten months and the electorate has turned sharply
conservative. One of the conservative Republicans that didn't get the
nod decided to run on the Conservative Party Line. The official
Republican is diving for the bottom and the race is between the Dem
and the Conservative. It's rated too close to call at the moment but
the Conservative is moving up and the Dem is fighting to hold his
percentage. Could go either way.

Virginia was touted by the Dems as officially moving from R to D in
2008 and this coming gubernatorial election was heralded as when the
that would be sealed forever and ever. Now it's pretty much conceded
the R is going to win.

The NY governor race is generally conceded to the D at the moment and
has been since the beginning.

The moral of this story is that the Republican leadership is
completely out of touch with the Republican rank and file. The party
has to crash and rebuild from its grass roots. This may be a small
start in that direction. Time to dump the RINO's and run on real
principles instead of just running for power with whatever looks like
it may work at the moment.

Cliff <Clhuprichguessw... at (no spam) aoltmovetheperiodc.om> wrote:

other contributors snipped by Cliff.  In a fit of peak no doubt.

http://www.therightperspective.org/2009/10/28/palin-endorses-conserva...
[
Former Alaska governor and GOP vice presidential candidate Sarah Palin has
broken party ranks and endorsed a third-party candidate over his Republican
competitor in an upstate New York congressional race.
]
 " ..  the heavily-Republican district voted for Obama last year,  .. "

 LOL ..  Bull in the china shop ....

The Republicans made a very bad choice some time back and they are
stuck with it.  In the wake of the 2008 election they decided a
conservative didn't have a chance and their only choice was to run a
woman that was so liberal she could out-liberal the Democrats.

Fast forward ten months and the electorate has turned sharply
conservative.  One of the conservative Republicans that didn't get the
nod decided to run on the Conservative Party Line.  The official
Republican is diving for the bottom and the race is between the Dem
and the Conservative.  It's rated too close to call at the moment but
the Conservative is moving up and the Dem is fighting to hold his
percentage.  Could go either way.

Virginia was touted by the Dems as officially moving from R to D in
2008 and this coming gubernatorial election was heralded as when the
that would be sealed forever and ever.  Now it's pretty much conceded
the R is going to win.

The NY governor race is generally conceded to the D at the moment and
has been since the beginning.

The moral of this story is that the Republican leadership is
completely out of touch with the Republican rank and file.  The party
has to crash and rebuild from its grass roots.  This may be a small
start in that direction.  Time to dump the RINO's and run on real
principles instead of just running for power with whatever looks like
it may work at the moment.

On Oct 28, 9:30 pm, Winston_Smith <not_r... at (no spam) bogus.net> wrote:

The moral of this story is that the Republican leadership is
completely out of touch with the Republican rank and file.  The party
has to crash and rebuild from its grass roots.  This may be a small
start in that direction.  Time to dump the RINO's and run on real
principles instead of just running for power with whatever looks like
it may work at the moment.

The Republicans have peddling the usual garbage.

The Republicans have peddling the usual garbage.

Like I wrote, the leaders have. The heart and soul of the party - the
grass roots - are common sense conservative and they are as unhappy
with the leadership as you are.

You and Cliff do live in a bi-polar world. For real people it's not
pure black or pure white. There are all sorts of gradations. It's
perfectly possible for one person to agree with the Ds on one issue,
the Rs on another, and be independent on a third. But you two only
see it as all or nothing. Obama is turning out to be a lot like that
two. Sad. And dangerous in these times.

Curly Surmudgeon <CurlySurmudgeon at (no spam) live.com> wrote:
On Wed, 28 Oct 2009 19:30:36 -0700, Winston_Smith wrote:

The moral of this story is that the Republican leadership is
completely out of touch with the Republican rank and file. The party
has to crash and rebuild from its grass roots. This may be a small
start in that direction. Time to dump the RINO's and run on real
principles instead of just running for power with whatever looks like
it may work at the moment.

The name "Republican" will probably survive the crash. Most likely as a
theocratic wing. While true conservatives may break off into an anti-
federalist party and suck true conservatives from the Democrats.

At least a 3-party system would give us a bit more representation. It
will also be interesting to see them forced to disassemble the existing
framework which prevents minor parties from participating.

"Disassemble". That means to not tell the truth.

Sorry, I couldn't help myself.

The way the law in Arizona is written, even if Ron Paul had found a way
to win, he would not have won because he wasn't approved by the official
party powers. Voting is not what it used to be.

On Wed, 28 Oct 2009 19:30:36 -0700, Winston_Smith wrote:

The moral of this story is that the Republican leadership is completely
out of touch with the Republican rank and file. The party has to crash
and rebuild from its grass roots. This may be a small start in that
direction. Time to dump the RINO's and run on real principles instead
of just running for power with whatever looks like it may work at the
moment.

The name "Republican" will probably survive the crash. Most likely as a
theocratic wing. While true conservatives may break off into an anti-
federalist party and suck true conservatives from the Democrats.

At least a 3-party system would give us a bit more representation. It
will also be interesting to see them forced to disassemble the existing
framework which prevents minor parties from participating.

The Republicans have peddling the usual garbage.

TMT

Palin's Pet has Taliban Ties?

Curly Surmudgeon <CurlySurmudgeon at (no spam) live.com> wrote:
On Wed, 28 Oct 2009 19:30:36 -0700, Winston_Smith wrote:

The moral of this story is that the Republican leadership is completely
out of touch with the Republican rank and file. The party has to crash
and rebuild from its grass roots. This may be a small start in that
direction. Time to dump the RINO's and run on real principles instead
of just running for power with whatever looks like it may work at the
moment.

The name "Republican" will probably survive the crash. Most likely as a
theocratic wing. While true conservatives may break off into an anti-
federalist party and suck true conservatives from the Democrats.

At least a 3-party system would give us a bit more representation. It
will also be interesting to see them forced to disassemble the existing
framework which prevents minor parties from participating.

"Disassemble". That means to not tell the truth.

Sorry, I couldn't help myself.

The way the law in Arizona is written, even if Ron Paul had found a
way to win, he would not have won because he wasn't approved by the
official party powers. Voting is not what it used to be.

On Sat, 31 Oct 2009 22:05:03 -0700, Winston_Smith <not_real at (no spam) bogus.net
wrote:

Curly Surmudgeon <CurlySurmudgeon at (no spam) live.com> wrote:
On Wed, 28 Oct 2009 19:30:36 -0700, Winston_Smith wrote:

The moral of this story is that the Republican leadership is completely
out of touch with the Republican rank and file. The party has to crash
and rebuild from its grass roots. This may be a small start in that
direction. Time to dump the RINO's and run on real principles instead
of just running for power with whatever looks like it may work at the
moment.

The name "Republican" will probably survive the crash. Most likely as a
theocratic wing. While true conservatives may break off into an anti-
federalist party and suck true conservatives from the Democrats.

At least a 3-party system would give us a bit more representation. It
will also be interesting to see them forced to disassemble the existing
framework which prevents minor parties from participating.

"Disassemble". That means to not tell the truth.

Sorry, I couldn't help myself.

The way the law in Arizona is written, even if Ron Paul had found a
way to win, he would not have won because he wasn't approved by the
official party powers. Voting is not what it used to be.


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/joe-trippi/roves-misread-of-tuesdays_b_340290.html

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Too_Many_Tools <too_many_to... at (no spam) yahoo.com> wrote:
On Oct 28, 9:30 pm, Winston_Smith <not_r... at (no spam) bogus.net> wrote:
The moral of this story is that the Republican leadership is
completely out of touch with the Republican rank and file.  The party
has to crash and rebuild from its grass roots.  This may be a small
start in that direction.  Time to dump the RINO's and run on real
principles instead of just running for power with whatever looks like
it may work at the moment.

The Republicans have peddling the usual garbage.

Like I wrote, the leaders have.  The heart and soul of the party - the
grass roots - are common sense conservative and they are as unhappy
with the leadership as you are.

You and Cliff do live in a bi-polar world.  For real people it's not
pure black or pure white.  There are all sorts of gradations.  It's
perfectly possible for one person to agree with the Ds on one issue,
the Rs on another, and be independent on a third.  

But you two only
see it as all or nothing.  Obama is turning out to be a lot like that
two.  Sad.  And dangerous in these times.