| |
 |
|
| Politics Forum Index » Media Politics Forum » Sadly, Bush's legacy lives on. Fewer Americans... |
|
Page 1 of 1 |
|
| Author |
Message |
| Tim Howard... |
Posted: Sat Oct 24, 2009 10:57 pm |
|
|
|
Guest
|
I guess all those years of the Bush administration's "skepticism" have
paid off. Also it is probably one of the indirect consequences of the
terrible economic mess Bush put us in; people tend to deprioritize
environmental issues when they are concerned with their economic situation.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Poll: Fewer in U.S. believe in global warming
By DINA CAPPIELLO
ASSOCIATED PRESS
Oct. 22, 2009, 6:43PM
WASHINGTON — Americans seem to be cooling toward global warming. Just
57 percent think there is solid evidence the world is getting warmer,
down 20 points in just three years, a new poll says. And the share of
people who believe pollution caused by humans is causing temperatures to
rise has also taken a dip, even as the U.S. and world forums gear up for
possible action against climate change.
In a poll of 1,500 adults by the Pew Research Center for the People &
the Press, released Thursday, the number of people saying there is
strong scientific evidence that the Earth has gotten warmer over the
past few decades is down from 71 percent in April of last year and from
77 percent when Pew started asking the question in 2006. The number of
people who see the situation as a serious problem also has declined.
The steepest drop has occurred during the past year, as Congress and the
Obama administration have taken steps to control heat-trapping emissions
for the first time and international negotiations for a new treaty to
slow global warming have been under way. At the same time, there has
been mounting scientific evidence of climate change — from melting ice
caps to the world's oceans hitting the highest monthly recorded
temperatures this summer.
The poll was released a day after 18 scientific organizations wrote
Congress to reaffirm the consensus behind global warming. A federal
government report Thursday found that global warming is upsetting the
Arctic's thermostat.
Only about a third, or 36 percent of the respondents, feel that human
activities — such as pollution from power plants, factories and
automobiles — are behind a temperature increase. That's down from 47
percent from 2006 through last year's poll.
"The priority that people give to pollution and environmental concerns
and a whole host of other issues is down because of the economy and
because of the focus on other things," suggested Andrew Kohut, the
director of the research center, which conducted the poll from Sept. 30
to Oct. 4. "When the focus is on other things, people forget and see
these issues as less grave."
Andrew Weaver, a professor of climate analysis at the University of
Victoria in British Columbia, said politics could be drowning out
scientific awareness.
"It's a combination of poor communication by scientists, a lousy summer
in the Eastern United States, people mixing up weather and climate and a
full-court press by public relations firms and lobby groups trying to
instill a sense of uncertainty and confusion in the public," he said.
Political breakdowns in the survey underscore how tough it could be to
enact a law limiting pollution emissions blamed for warming. While
three-quarters of Democrats believe the evidence of a warming planet is
solid, and nearly half believe the problem is serious, far fewer
conservative and moderate Democrats see the problem as grave.
Fifty-seven percent of Republicans say there is no solid evidence of
global warming, up from 31 percent in early 2007.
Though there are exceptions, the vast majority of scientists agree that
global warming is occurring and that the primary cause is a buildup of
greenhouse gases in the atmosphere from the burning of fossil fuels,
such as oil and coal.
Jane Lubchenco, head the National Oceanic and Atmospheric
Administration, told a business group meeting at the White House
Thursday: "The science is pretty clear that the climate challenge before
us is very real. We're already seeing impacts of climate change in our
own backyards."
Despite misgivings about the science, half the respondents still say
they support limits on greenhouse gases, even if they could lead to
higher energy prices. And a majority — 56 percent — feel the United
States should join other countries in setting standards to address
global climate change. |
|
|
| Back to top |
|
|
|
| Frank Pittel... |
Posted: Sun Oct 25, 2009 12:29 pm |
|
|
|
Guest
|
That's bad news for the global warming cult. Have you considered the
possibility that the reason more and more people are starting to see
through the lies of the global warming cult is that when they go outside
they notice that it's getting colder instead of warmer?
In alt.politics.usa.republican Tim Howard <tim.howard at (no spam) suddenlink.net> wrote:
: I guess all those years of the Bush administration's "skepticism" have
: paid off. Also it is probably one of the indirect consequences of the
: terrible economic mess Bush put us in; people tend to deprioritize
: environmental issues when they are concerned with their economic situation.
: ----------------------------------------------------------------------
: Poll: Fewer in U.S. believe in global warming
: By DINA CAPPIELLO
: ASSOCIATED PRESS
: Oct. 22, 2009, 6:43PM
: WASHINGTON ??? Americans seem to be cooling toward global warming. Just
: 57 percent think there is solid evidence the world is getting warmer,
: down 20 points in just three years, a new poll says. And the share of
: people who believe pollution caused by humans is causing temperatures to
: rise has also taken a dip, even as the U.S. and world forums gear up for
: possible action against climate change.
: In a poll of 1,500 adults by the Pew Research Center for the People &
: the Press, released Thursday, the number of people saying there is
: strong scientific evidence that the Earth has gotten warmer over the
: past few decades is down from 71 percent in April of last year and from
: 77 percent when Pew started asking the question in 2006. The number of
: people who see the situation as a serious problem also has declined.
: The steepest drop has occurred during the past year, as Congress and the
: Obama administration have taken steps to control heat-trapping emissions
: for the first time and international negotiations for a new treaty to
: slow global warming have been under way. At the same time, there has
: been mounting scientific evidence of climate change ??? from melting ice
: caps to the world's oceans hitting the highest monthly recorded
: temperatures this summer.
: The poll was released a day after 18 scientific organizations wrote
: Congress to reaffirm the consensus behind global warming. A federal
: government report Thursday found that global warming is upsetting the
: Arctic's thermostat.
: Only about a third, or 36 percent of the respondents, feel that human
: activities ??? such as pollution from power plants, factories and
: automobiles ??? are behind a temperature increase. That's down from 47
: percent from 2006 through last year's poll.
: "The priority that people give to pollution and environmental concerns
: and a whole host of other issues is down because of the economy and
: because of the focus on other things," suggested Andrew Kohut, the
: director of the research center, which conducted the poll from Sept. 30
: to Oct. 4. "When the focus is on other things, people forget and see
: these issues as less grave."
: Andrew Weaver, a professor of climate analysis at the University of
: Victoria in British Columbia, said politics could be drowning out
: scientific awareness.
: "It's a combination of poor communication by scientists, a lousy summer
: in the Eastern United States, people mixing up weather and climate and a
: full-court press by public relations firms and lobby groups trying to
: instill a sense of uncertainty and confusion in the public," he said.
: Political breakdowns in the survey underscore how tough it could be to
: enact a law limiting pollution emissions blamed for warming. While
: three-quarters of Democrats believe the evidence of a warming planet is
: solid, and nearly half believe the problem is serious, far fewer
: conservative and moderate Democrats see the problem as grave.
: Fifty-seven percent of Republicans say there is no solid evidence of
: global warming, up from 31 percent in early 2007.
: Though there are exceptions, the vast majority of scientists agree that
: global warming is occurring and that the primary cause is a buildup of
: greenhouse gases in the atmosphere from the burning of fossil fuels,
: such as oil and coal.
: Jane Lubchenco, head the National Oceanic and Atmospheric
: Administration, told a business group meeting at the White House
: Thursday: "The science is pretty clear that the climate challenge before
: us is very real. We're already seeing impacts of climate change in our
: own backyards."
: Despite misgivings about the science, half the respondents still say
: they support limits on greenhouse gases, even if they could lead to
: higher energy prices. And a majority ??? 56 percent ??? feel the United
: States should join other countries in setting standards to address
: global climate change.
--
-------------------
Keep working dumbo needs the money |
|
|
| Back to top |
|
|
|
| Tim Howard... |
Posted: Mon Oct 26, 2009 12:55 am |
|
|
|
Guest
|
Frank Pittel wrote:
Quote: That's bad news for the global warming cult. Have you considered the
possibility that the reason more and more people are starting to see
through the lies of the global warming cult is that when they go outside
they notice that it's getting colder instead of warmer?
Just look at how much ice is melting from the poles before you say that.
Earth's temperature 8th-warmest on record so far in 2009
By Doyle Rice, USA TODAY
The Earth's temperature from January-March 2009 was the 8th-warmest on
record, according to data released Thursday from the National Climatic
Data Center in Asheville, N.C. The global temperature of 55.04 degrees
for the year's first three months was almost a full degree above the
20th-century average of 54.1 degrees.
This continues a decades-long trend of warmer-than-average temperatures.
If the warming pattern persists throughout the remainder of the year, it
will mark the 33rd consecutive year of above-average global
temperatures. The Earth's temperature record dates back to 1880.
The data center reports that warmer-than-average conditions were
measured in January-March across most of the land areas of the world,
especially in central Asia, central Africa, Europe, and south-central
North America, as seen on this map. The areas with cooler-than-average
temperatures include parts of Alaska, southern Canada, northern
Australia, and central and eastern Russia.
For March, the globe was the 10th-warmest since records began, with a
temperature of 55.87 degrees, which is about a degree above the
20th-century average of 54.9 degrees. The warmest above-average
temperatures during March 2009 were recorded across Mexico, Europe, most
of Asia, South America, and the contiguous USA. Cooler-than-average
temperatures occurred across north-central and northwestern USA,
southern Canada, southern Alaska, and central Russia.
Meanwhile, earlier this week, some encouraging news came in from the
National Center for Atmospheric Research (NCAR). In a study using
climate models, scientists reported that the threat of global warming
can still be greatly reduced if the world's nations cut emissions of
heat-trapping greenhouse gases by 70% this century.
Carbon dioxide levels in the Earth's atmosphere have increased from
about 284 parts per million (in the pre-industrial era) to more than 380
ppm today. This study assumed that the globe's CO2 levels could be
maintained at 450 ppm through the century, if the world quickly adapts
conservation practices and new green technologies to cut emissions
dramatically.
If unchecked and kept at their current levels, atmospheric carbon
dioxide levels in the atmosphere could skyrocket to 750 ppm by 2100.
While global temperatures would continue to rise, the most dangerous
potential aspects of climate change, including massive losses of Arctic
sea ice and permafrost and significant sea-level rise, could be
partially avoided.
The study will be published next week in the journal Geophysical
Research Letters, a publication of the American Geophysical Union.
"This research indicates that we can no longer avoid significant warming
during this century," says NCAR scientist Warren Washington, the study's
lead author. "But if the world were to implement this level of emission
cuts, we could stabilize the threat of climate change and avoid catastrophe.
Quote:
In alt.politics.usa.republican Tim Howard <tim.howard at (no spam) suddenlink.net> wrote:
: I guess all those years of the Bush administration's "skepticism" have
: paid off. Also it is probably one of the indirect consequences of the
: terrible economic mess Bush put us in; people tend to deprioritize
: environmental issues when they are concerned with their economic situation.
: ----------------------------------------------------------------------
: Poll: Fewer in U.S. believe in global warming
: By DINA CAPPIELLO
: ASSOCIATED PRESS
: Oct. 22, 2009, 6:43PM
: WASHINGTON ??? Americans seem to be cooling toward global warming. Just
: 57 percent think there is solid evidence the world is getting warmer,
: down 20 points in just three years, a new poll says. And the share of
: people who believe pollution caused by humans is causing temperatures to
: rise has also taken a dip, even as the U.S. and world forums gear up for
: possible action against climate change.
: In a poll of 1,500 adults by the Pew Research Center for the People &
: the Press, released Thursday, the number of people saying there is
: strong scientific evidence that the Earth has gotten warmer over the
: past few decades is down from 71 percent in April of last year and from
: 77 percent when Pew started asking the question in 2006. The number of
: people who see the situation as a serious problem also has declined.
: The steepest drop has occurred during the past year, as Congress and the
: Obama administration have taken steps to control heat-trapping emissions
: for the first time and international negotiations for a new treaty to
: slow global warming have been under way. At the same time, there has
: been mounting scientific evidence of climate change ??? from melting ice
: caps to the world's oceans hitting the highest monthly recorded
: temperatures this summer.
: The poll was released a day after 18 scientific organizations wrote
: Congress to reaffirm the consensus behind global warming. A federal
: government report Thursday found that global warming is upsetting the
: Arctic's thermostat.
: Only about a third, or 36 percent of the respondents, feel that human
: activities ??? such as pollution from power plants, factories and
: automobiles ??? are behind a temperature increase. That's down from 47
: percent from 2006 through last year's poll.
: "The priority that people give to pollution and environmental concerns
: and a whole host of other issues is down because of the economy and
: because of the focus on other things," suggested Andrew Kohut, the
: director of the research center, which conducted the poll from Sept. 30
: to Oct. 4. "When the focus is on other things, people forget and see
: these issues as less grave."
: Andrew Weaver, a professor of climate analysis at the University of
: Victoria in British Columbia, said politics could be drowning out
: scientific awareness.
: "It's a combination of poor communication by scientists, a lousy summer
: in the Eastern United States, people mixing up weather and climate and a
: full-court press by public relations firms and lobby groups trying to
: instill a sense of uncertainty and confusion in the public," he said.
: Political breakdowns in the survey underscore how tough it could be to
: enact a law limiting pollution emissions blamed for warming. While
: three-quarters of Democrats believe the evidence of a warming planet is
: solid, and nearly half believe the problem is serious, far fewer
: conservative and moderate Democrats see the problem as grave.
: Fifty-seven percent of Republicans say there is no solid evidence of
: global warming, up from 31 percent in early 2007.
: Though there are exceptions, the vast majority of scientists agree that
: global warming is occurring and that the primary cause is a buildup of
: greenhouse gases in the atmosphere from the burning of fossil fuels,
: such as oil and coal.
: Jane Lubchenco, head the National Oceanic and Atmospheric
: Administration, told a business group meeting at the White House
: Thursday: "The science is pretty clear that the climate challenge before
: us is very real. We're already seeing impacts of climate change in our
: own backyards."
: Despite misgivings about the science, half the respondents still say
: they support limits on greenhouse gases, even if they could lead to
: higher energy prices. And a majority ??? 56 percent ??? feel the United
: States should join other countries in setting standards to address
: global climate change.
|
|
|
| Back to top |
|
|
|
| Frank Pittel... |
Posted: Mon Oct 26, 2009 10:28 am |
|
|
|
Guest
|
In alt.politics.usa.republican Tim Howard <tim.howard at (no spam) suddenlink.net> wrote:
: Frank Pittel wrote:
: > That's bad news for the global warming cult. Have you considered the
: > possibility that the reason more and more people are starting to see
: > through the lies of the global warming cult is that when they go outside
: > they notice that it's getting colder instead of warmer?
: >
I see the global warming cultists are ignoring the fact that earth is in a
cooling cycle and has been for a decade.
<global warming cult blabber deleted>
--
-------------------
Keep working dumbo needs the money |
|
|
| Back to top |
|
|
|
| PC... |
Posted: Mon Oct 26, 2009 11:54 am |
|
|
|
Guest
|
"Frank Pittel" <fwp at (no spam) warlock.deepthought.com> wrote in message
news:J_6dnVoIOv2hU3jXnZ2dnUVZ_qGdnZ2d at (no spam) giganews.com...
Quote: In alt.politics.usa.republican Tim Howard <tim.howard at (no spam) suddenlink.net
wrote:
: Frank Pittel wrote:
: > That's bad news for the global warming cult. Have you considered the
: > possibility that the reason more and more people are starting to see
: > through the lies of the global warming cult is that when they go
outside
: > they notice that it's getting colder instead of warmer?
:
I see the global warming cultists are ignoring the fact that earth is in a
cooling cycle and has been for a decade.
Five of the hottest years on record have happened since 1999. |
|
|
| Back to top |
|
|
|
| Robert Seago... |
Posted: Mon Oct 26, 2009 12:19 pm |
|
|
|
Guest
|
In article <J_6dnVoIOv2hU3jXnZ2dnUVZ_qGdnZ2d at (no spam) giganews.com>,
Frank Pittel <fwp at (no spam) warlock.deepthought.com> wrote:
Quote: I see the global warming cultists are ignoring the fact that earth is in
a cooling cycle and has been for a decade.
Scientists have never as far as I know said that the weather has to get
warmer each year to conclude that there is a long term warming trend. |
|
|
| Back to top |
|
|
|
| Dionysus... |
Posted: Mon Oct 26, 2009 8:08 pm |
|
|
|
Guest
|
"Tim Howard" <tim.howard at (no spam) suddenlink.net> wrote in message
news:4ae3dacc$0$23781$bbae4d71 at (no spam) news.suddenlink.net...
Quote: I guess all those years of the Bush administration's "skepticism" have paid
off. Also it is probably one of the indirect consequences of the terrible
economic mess Bush put us in; people tend to deprioritize environmental
issues when they are concerned with their economic situation.
*************
Puh-leeze...you really have to be careful; you're gonna sprain an arm
patting yourself on the back for being such an exemplary and perspicacious
individual...privvy alone to all that the rest of us have "deprioritized."
Must be very lonely up there on that mountain.
Dionysus
Quote:
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Poll: Fewer in U.S. believe in global warming
By DINA CAPPIELLO
ASSOCIATED PRESS
Oct. 22, 2009, 6:43PM
WASHINGTON — Americans seem to be cooling toward global warming. Just 57
percent think there is solid evidence the world is getting warmer, down 20
points in just three years, a new poll says. And the share of people who
believe pollution caused by humans is causing temperatures to rise has
also taken a dip, even as the U.S. and world forums gear up for possible
action against climate change.
In a poll of 1,500 adults by the Pew Research Center for the People &
the Press, released Thursday, the number of people saying there is strong
scientific evidence that the Earth has gotten warmer over the past few
decades is down from 71 percent in April of last year and from 77 percent
when Pew started asking the question in 2006. The number of people who see
the situation as a serious problem also has declined.
The steepest drop has occurred during the past year, as Congress and the
Obama administration have taken steps to control heat-trapping emissions
for the first time and international negotiations for a new treaty to slow
global warming have been under way. At the same time, there has been
mounting scientific evidence of climate change — from melting ice caps to
the world's oceans hitting the highest monthly recorded temperatures this
summer.
The poll was released a day after 18 scientific organizations wrote
Congress to reaffirm the consensus behind global warming. A federal
government report Thursday found that global warming is upsetting the
Arctic's thermostat.
Only about a third, or 36 percent of the respondents, feel that human
activities — such as pollution from power plants, factories and
automobiles — are behind a temperature increase. That's down from 47
percent from 2006 through last year's poll.
"The priority that people give to pollution and environmental concerns and
a whole host of other issues is down because of the economy and because of
the focus on other things," suggested Andrew Kohut, the director of the
research center, which conducted the poll from Sept. 30 to Oct. 4. "When
the focus is on other things, people forget and see these issues as less
grave."
Andrew Weaver, a professor of climate analysis at the University of
Victoria in British Columbia, said politics could be drowning out
scientific awareness.
"It's a combination of poor communication by scientists, a lousy summer in
the Eastern United States, people mixing up weather and climate and a
full-court press by public relations firms and lobby groups trying to
instill a sense of uncertainty and confusion in the public," he said.
Political breakdowns in the survey underscore how tough it could be to
enact a law limiting pollution emissions blamed for warming. While
three-quarters of Democrats believe the evidence of a warming planet is
solid, and nearly half believe the problem is serious, far fewer
conservative and moderate Democrats see the problem as grave. Fifty-seven
percent of Republicans say there is no solid evidence of global warming,
up from 31 percent in early 2007.
Though there are exceptions, the vast majority of scientists agree that
global warming is occurring and that the primary cause is a buildup of
greenhouse gases in the atmosphere from the burning of fossil fuels, such
as oil and coal.
Jane Lubchenco, head the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration,
told a business group meeting at the White House Thursday: "The science is
pretty clear that the climate challenge before us is very real. We're
already seeing impacts of climate change in our own backyards."
Despite misgivings about the science, half the respondents still say they
support limits on greenhouse gases, even if they could lead to higher
energy prices. And a majority — 56 percent — feel the United States should
join other countries in setting standards to address global climate
change. |
|
|
| Back to top |
|
|
|
|
|
All times are GMT - 5 Hours
The time now is Sat Nov 21, 2009 9:51 pm
|
|