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| J... |
 Posted: Sat Oct 24, 2009 12:00 pm |
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Matt Barber: "Unfortunately, it places Christians -- people of faith, people
who have traditional values relative to sexual immorality...in an untenable
position,"
http://www.onenewsnow.com/Politics/Default.aspx?id=736154
Christians on high alert over hate crimes passage
A hate crimes bill sent to President Obama for his signature raises a red
flag for Christians.
On Thursday, the U.S. Senate passed a hate crimes bill that Christian
leaders have warned for years could greatly infringe on the rights of those
who speak to loudly about their religious views. Matt Barber of Liberty
Counsel agrees with most observers that President Obama will sign the
measure -- adding that the president desires to "throw a bone to homosexual
activists because they have been breathing down his neck...and this is a way
to hold them off."
Barber views the legislation as something akin to a muzzle. "Unfortunately,
it places Christians -- people of faith, people who have traditional values
relative to sexual immorality...in an untenable position," says the
attorney.
He notes that several years ago, a similar law in Pennsylvania resulted in
the arrest of 11 Christians who were presenting the gospel at a Philadelphia
homosexual rally. Barber goes on to say that the federal bill "will chill
religious liberty and free speech -- and that is its intended purpose, not
to protect anybody from hate crimes."
And as for pastors? "There is a very weak exemption in [the bill] which is
totally illusory, and a religious exemption is not going to protect
pastors," responds Barber. "Renegade prosecutors and politically correct
leftists in positions of authority can subjectively determine what is or is
not a hate crime." And then move on to prosecution, he adds.
Barber explains that Liberty Counsel intends to challenge the
constitutionality of the hate crimes legislation.
"Copyright 2007 American Family News Network - Used by permission."
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J Young
Jvisions at (no spam) live.com |
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| Lars Eighner... |
| Posted: Sat Oct 24, 2009 12:00 pm |
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In our last episode, <37s4tf.846.17.1 at (no spam) news.alt.net>, the lovely and talented
J broadcast on alt.atheism:
Quote: Matt Barber: "Unfortunately, it places Christians -- people of faith,
people who have traditional values relative to sexual immorality...in an
untenable position,"
Yeah, it will be so awkward when they beat, maim, and kill people.
Quote: Barber explains that Liberty Counsel intends to challenge the
constitutionality of the hate crimes legislation.
There has been a federal hate crime law for years with similar language and
it has been upheld by a Supreme Court with a very similar makeup to the
present one.
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Lars Eighner <http://larseighner.com/> September 5898, 1993
277 days since Rick Warren prayed over Bush's third term.
Obama: No hope, no change, more of the same. Yes, he can, but no, he won't. |
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| Syd M.... |
| Posted: Sat Oct 24, 2009 12:00 pm |
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On Oct 24, 2:00 pm, "J" <Jvisi... at (no spam) live.com> wrote:
Quote: Matt Barber: "Unfortunately, it places Christians -- people of faith, people
who have traditional values relative to sexual immorality...in an untenable
position,"
What's the matter? You afraid of someone not feeding your goddamn
martyr complex?
Stop acting like a terrorist, and you assholes won't get treated like
one.
PDW |
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| Nosterill... |
| Posted: Sat Oct 24, 2009 12:00 pm |
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On Oct 24, 7:00 pm, "J" <Jvisi... at (no spam) live.com> wrote:
Quote: Matt Barber: "Unfortunately, it places Christians -- people of faith, people
who have traditional values relative to sexual immorality...in an untenable
position,"
http://www.onenewsnow.com/Politics/Default.aspx?id=736154
Christians on high alert over hate crimes passage
A hate crimes bill sent to President Obama for his signature raises a red
flag for Christians.
Yes - it looks like they might have to give up that hatred that's held
them together over the centuries. It's hardly worth going to church if
you can't hate someone, or something. |
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| Jimbo... |
| Posted: Sat Oct 24, 2009 12:00 pm |
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On Oct 24, 2:17 pm, Lars Eighner <use... at (no spam) larseighner.com> wrote:
Quote: In our last episode, <37s4tf.846.1... at (no spam) news.alt.net>, the lovely and talented
J broadcast on alt.atheism:
Matt Barber: "Unfortunately, it places Christians -- people of faith,
people who have traditional values relative to sexual immorality...in an
untenable position,"
Yeah, it will be so awkward when they beat, maim, and kill people.
Barber explains that Liberty Counsel intends to challenge the
constitutionality of the hate crimes legislation.
There has been a federal hate crime law for years with similar language and
it has been upheld by a Supreme Court with a very similar makeup to the
present one.
People like J has been lying about the federal hate crime legislation
for a long time. This is no different. |
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| Sanity's Little Helper... |
| Posted: Sat Oct 24, 2009 12:41 pm |
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It is an ancient J <Jvisions at (no spam) live.com>, and he posteth:
Quote: Matt Barber: "Unfortunately, it places Christians -- people of faith, people
who have traditional values relative to sexual immorality...in an untenable
position,"
I hope so :-)
--
David Silverman
aa #2208
Defender of Civilisation
"Christian" (n). A person who views insulting non-Christians as a sacred
duity, and any response as persecution
Not authentic without this signature. |
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| Ray Fischer... |
| Posted: Sat Oct 24, 2009 1:27 pm |
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J <Jvisions at (no spam) live.com> wrote:
Quote: Matt Barber: "Unfortunately, it places Christians -- people of faith, people
who have traditional values relative to sexual immorality...in an untenable
position,"
Because we all know that these "Christians" really just look for
excuses to maim and kill people that they hate.
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Ray Fischer
rfischer at (no spam) sonic.net |
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| Mr. B... |
| Posted: Sat Oct 24, 2009 1:28 pm |
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Quote: Matt Barber: "Unfortunately, it places Christians -- people of faith,
people who have traditional values relative to sexual immorality...in an
untenable position,"
Ah yes, Matt Barber, the moron that Concerned Women for America once
employed as a spokesman, whose obsession with homosexuality is almost on the
level of Americans for Truth about Homosexuality.
Quote: http://www.onenewsnow.com/Politics/Default.aspx?id=736154
Always a reliable source of news.
Quote: Christians on high alert over hate crimes passage
Not all, just the moron bigots who hate everyone that rejects their brand of
religion. Interestingly, that means they hate almost everyone in the world.
-- B |
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| LC... |
| Posted: Sat Oct 24, 2009 1:34 pm |
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Hateful kook "J" <Jvisions at (no spam) live.com> a/k/a "Auric Hellman"
<adhellman at (no spam) volcanomail.com> and a cast of thousand (of nyms) wrote in
message news:37s4tf.846.17.1 at (no spam) news.alt.net...
Quote: Christians on high alert over hate crimes passage
LOL!
Perhaps the authorities should talk to this hate monger:
"America, with the exception of the jews and niggers, are not a
nation of pigs."
From: "J" <bigf at (no spam) ass.com>
Message-ID: <1f4mfa.u2b.17.1 at (no spam) news.alt.net>
"I'm a devout Catholic and would like to see the Muslims start
stoking-up the ovens in Tel Aviv. "
From: "Auric Hellman" <adhellman at (no spam) volcanomail.com>
Newsgroups: soc.culture.israel
Subject: Re: I'd like to see the Muslims destroy...
Date: 17 Sep 2006 18:42:33 -0700
Message-ID: <1158543753.097328.291400 at (no spam) e3g2000cwe.googlegroups.com>
LC~ Etc., etc. |
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| W.T.S.... |
| Posted: Sat Oct 24, 2009 2:22 pm |
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"J" <Jvisions at (no spam) live.com> wrote in message
news:37s4tf.846.17.1 at (no spam) news.alt.net...
Praise God in Heaven! At last we can start to get religious leaders and
other bigots to shut their filthy damned mouths. Everytime a priest or
minister speaks, it's to incite murder and violence. Let them spew forth
their filth from prison.
Bible, bad. Sex, good. |
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| Dysperdis... |
| Posted: Sat Oct 24, 2009 3:21 pm |
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J wrote:
Quote: Matt Barber: "Unfortunately, it places Christians -- people of faith, people
who have traditional values relative to sexual immorality...in an untenable
position,"
The "untenable position" of not being able to use violence on people
they don't like?
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Society, like water, needs to move and change to remain fresh. To keep
it from doing so is to allow it to become stagnant and malodorous. The
religious right would have us all living in a swamp to assuage their own
fears.
http://dysperdis.wordpress.com/ |
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| VoiceOfReason... |
| Posted: Sat Oct 24, 2009 3:37 pm |
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J wrote:
Quote: Matt Barber: "Unfortunately, it places Christians -- people of faith, people
who have traditional values relative to sexual immorality...in an untenable
position,"
For those Christians who don't plan to commit hate crimes, it's not an
issue. |
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| Uncle Vic... |
| Posted: Sat Oct 24, 2009 7:27 pm |
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One fine day in alt.atheism, "J" <Jvisions at (no spam) live.com> wrote:
Quote: On Thursday, the U.S. Senate passed a hate crimes bill that Christian
leaders have warned for years could greatly infringe on the rights of
those who speak to loudly about their religious views.
It's about time. Placing one religion above another simply because it's
what *you* believe involves hate. Sometimes it involves hate crimes, like
burning a cross on someone's lawn, or otherwise vandalizing their property
- even terrorizing or threatening to kill them. This world would be better
off without religion. But at least this bill is a start.
--
Uncle Vic
aa Atheist #2011
Christians are like Slinkys. They're boring, but they'll put a smile on
your face when you push them down the stairs. |
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| Mitchell Holman... |
| Posted: Sat Oct 24, 2009 9:49 pm |
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"LC" <LC_____ at (no spam) hotmail.com> wrote in news:hbvl3e02q4m at (no spam) enews6.newsguy.com:
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Hateful kook "J" <Jvisions at (no spam) live.com> a/k/a "Auric Hellman"
adhellman at (no spam) volcanomail.com> and a cast of thousand (of nyms) wrote in
message news:37s4tf.846.17.1 at (no spam) news.alt.net...
Christians on high alert over hate crimes passage
LOL!
Perhaps the authorities should talk to this hate monger:
"America, with the exception of the jews and niggers, are not a
nation of pigs."
From: "J" <bigf at (no spam) ass.com
Message-ID: <1f4mfa.u2b.17.1 at (no spam) news.alt.net
Yikes. |
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| Mitchell Holman... |
| Posted: Sat Oct 24, 2009 9:52 pm |
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"J" <Jvisions at (no spam) live.com> wrote in news:37s4tf.846.17.1 at (no spam) news.alt.net:
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Barber explains that Liberty Counsel intends to challenge the
constitutionality of the hate crimes legislation.
And they know all about hate.
"I want you to let a wave of hatred wash over you. Yes, hate is good.
Our goal is a Christian nation. We have a biblical duty, we are called
on by God to conquer this country. We don't want equal time. We don't
want pluralism."
-- Randall Terry, Founder, Operation Rescue |
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