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| Jim Alder... |
Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 2:11 pm |
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Mention taking it up the ass and here comes Roselles, you dumb cocksucker.
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So, how's that whole "hopey - changey"
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| Jim Alder... |
Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 2:53 pm |
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Gerald Abrahamson <jerryab at (no spam) visi.com> wrote:
Quote: Jim Alder <jimalder at (no spam) ssnet.com> wrote:
Book still has pre-production costs. Say $3.50 x 1.5-million = $5.25
million. Book still has marketing costs. Say $1.00 x 1.5-million =
$1.50 million (dropped from $2 ea) Book still has printing costs. Say
$3.00 x 1.5-million = $4.50 million. Book will pay <how much?> in
royalties to Palin? Zero (do the math--if you can). Advance of $1.5-
million
(estimate) vs royalties.
She gets whatever the contract says she gets. It's the publishers
problem whether their deal makes or looses money. I guess you are too
liberal to understand finance and contracts.
Total publisher payout = $12.75 million for 1.5-million
books in the initial run.
Revenue = ????
Why don't you tell us? ROFLMAO !!!
ROFL is right! You fabricate a mess of numbers out of nothing more than
your fevered imagination and you want me to balance the books for you?
You're
ridiculous. "Pre-production costs" are not "per book". It is the amount
involved in designing THE book, cover, jacket, etc. That amount is divided
by
the number of books sold, not the other way around. The same can be said of
marketing costs, at least partially. I assume a publisher would spend more
marketing a best seller like this one, or perhaps it requires less marketing
spending given all the free publicity it gets in the news and word-of-mouth.
She is no doubt also getting free advertising via her facebook page, which
has
almost a million onlookers, reportedly.
Are you claiming I created the "what it costs to publish a
book" page--to which I provided a link? Or what?
Oh, is that where you got the numbers? Okay, fair enough. Still, as I've
tried to point out, those are average percentages for most of the expenses.
Quote: None of us
have seen YOU produce anything relevant to the discussion in
terms of COST OR REVENUE INFO for analysis purposes.
Royalties and printing costs are per book.
No more payments to Palin until the original publishing of 1.5-million
books
has sold over $12.75 million.
Palin received a $1.25 million advance. Unless she was very generous in
her dealings with the publisher, she should get over $4 per book, which
means
after 300,000 or so are sold, her advance is covered. The publisher is not
giving the books away to Newsmax subscribers. Newsmax makes their money back
from the subscriptions. That's Republican math.
And from where did you get the 300k number? IMO, you pulled
it out of your ass--because you don't know at what price the
publisher sold the book.
I got it from your link. 15% of list price, or $28.99 is $4.35. Divide
$1.25 million by that and you get about 300,000. I would assume that the
author's cut is the same no matter how many are sold. I could be wrong.
Quote: You would think that even they could figure out that when you're
losing
money on a book that you think you're going to be stuck with, you
don't
lower
the price even further to get still more orders before you even place your
order to the publisher.
Man! Their thinking is so convoluted I'm not sure it made sense the
way
I put it.
Your Republican't business math and ideology strikes again.
You don't know what a "profit margin" is, so how could you figure they
suffer a loss or make a profit?
Looks like I was right. Republican't math comes up with 300k
books sold--and then it is profitable. Only problem--you
don't know the cost and you don't know the selling price.
So, show us your Republican't math. ROFLMAO !!!
You said a "publisher margin". I didn't know what you meant. I know what
a
profit margin is, dimwit.
You can't do the math, and it shows.
Your math is about 80% fabrication. That makes it hard to follow.
If you know what a "margin" is, then you know what
"publisher margin" is.
Nope, didn't. It could have been the white part on the left side of the
page, asshole. :)
Quote: Come on, show us how selling 300k
books reaches profitability per Republican't math.
That's three times you asked me the same fucking question in the same
goddam post, ya fucking moron! Just how do you think this Usenet thing works?
You laugh at me (apparently your sole reason for being in this thread) for not
knowing what you meant by "publishers margin" but you can't decipher this
sentence;
"Unless she was very generous in her dealings with the publisher, she
should get over $4 per book, which means after 300,000 or so are sold, her
advance is covered."
Sounds mighty straightforward and self-explanatory to me, but you're
clueless?
Quote: Let's see, $4.97 * 300k = less than $1.5-million.
$4.97? To whom did the publisher sell "Going Rogue" at that price?
Quote: That is less
CASH coming in than the cost of printing the 1.5-million
books (which is about $4.5-million CASH going out).
Notice I didn't ask you a second time where you got the $4.97? See, I
didn't expect you to answer BEFORE I finished typing this post.
Quote: They are stuck with trying to sell their proclaimed initial
run of about 1.5-million books and getting back their initial layout
of $12.75-million (= $8.50/book).
They aren't required to recoup an amount you have fabricated.
I said they spent about $12.75-miillion to publish the
book--based on independent factual evidence from a
comparably (slightly LOWER) priced hard-back book.
What book was it, do you know? You call it a comparable book, but is it?
Or is it a set of statistical averages? Does a best seller fall under the same
parameters?
Quote: What we
don't see is any factual evidence from you that contradicts
my claim. All you do is talk--and talk--and talk--and
talk--and talk--and talk--and talk--and talk--and talk...
I think if we checked, we'd find the preponderance of verbosity is on your
side, not mine.
Quote: However, the publisher will save money on marketing and
promotion because Palin is avoiding almost everywhere with
an airport and a significant population. She is going on a
bus tour to smaller towns for about three weeks or so to
promote her book--and that seems about it. The only major
city on her tour is essentially the last stop--Chicago, to be on Oprah.
ROFLMAO !!!
She's appearing on Oprah (not sure where you see humor in that, but you
seem to laugh at the strangest moments) the day BEFORE the release date. Why
would one go on a book tour to book stores that didn't have the book yet?
This article;
http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/2356038/sarah_palin_book_tour_going_r
ogue_is.html?cat=38
Quote:
says the book tour has been announced, and it is now less than two weeks
till the release date, so where you get the 'three weeks ending with an
Oprah
appearance' I don't know. Perhaps the same place you get your other numbers?
Oprah is not a conservative (LOL). But she is willing to let
Palin be a voluntary public idiot on her show.
I guess if you can judge the book before it comes out, you can critique
the show before it airs, too. I think you missed your calling. You should be
taking Ms. Cleo's place.
Quote: Be interesting to see what screwups Palin makes this time....
More interesting that you thought someone would go on a book tour before
the book was released.
Quote: I thought the Oprah show was the last stop in December--but
it appears it is the first in November. Be interesting to
see if she gives away any books then (or not). Usually, they
do (one to each audience member).
Then they probably will this time. And you will laugh derisively that they
are giving away Palin's book, and wonder how Oprah can afford to give away a
couple hundred books. LOL!! Didn't she give them all CARS one show?
Quote: Anyway, the clown roadshow
ends about Dec 10, so it runs maybe three weeks
(total)--with Thanksgiving in there also. Ah, maybe it will
be a "Black Friday" bonus !!! Buy one turkey at 58-68 cents
per lb, get one free (Palin's book) !!! The math works...
So does the hate. Works for you, anyway.
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| Sid9... |
Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 4:54 pm |
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"Gerald Abrahamson" <jerryab at (no spam) visi.com> wrote in message
news:omn8f5dofc1sscauvrlujdoeunue4lq5q9 at (no spam) 4ax.com...
Quote: On Thu, 05 Nov 2009 16:55:56 -0600, Jim Alder
jimalder at (no spam) ssnet.com> wrote:
Book still has pre-production costs. Say $3.50 x 1.5-million =
$5.25
million. Book still has marketing costs. Say $1.00 x 1.5-million
=
$1.50 million (dropped from $2 ea) Book still has printing
costs. Say
$3.00 x 1.5-million = $4.50 million. Book will pay <how much?
in
royalties to Palin? Zero (do the math--if you can). Advance of
$1.5-million (estimate) vs royalties.
She gets whatever the contract says she gets. It's the
publishers
problem whether their deal makes or looses money. I guess you
are too
liberal to understand finance and contracts.
Total publisher payout = $12.75 million for 1.5-million
books in the initial run.
Revenue = ????
Why don't you tell us? ROFLMAO !!!
ROFL is right! You fabricate a mess of numbers out of nothing
more than
your fevered imagination and you want me to balance the books for
you? You're
ridiculous. "Pre-production costs" are not "per book". It is the
amount
involved in designing THE book, cover, jacket, etc. That amount is
divided by
the number of books sold, not the other way around. The same can be
said of
marketing costs, at least partially. I assume a publisher would
spend more
marketing a best seller like this one, or perhaps it requires less
marketing
spending given all the free publicity it gets in the news and
word-of-mouth.
She is no doubt also getting free advertising via her facebook page,
which has
almost a million onlookers, reportedly.
Are you claiming I created the "what it costs to publish a
book" page--to which I provided a link? Or what? None of us
have seen YOU produce anything relevant to the discussion in
terms of COST OR REVENUE INFO for analysis purposes.
Royalties and printing costs are per book.
No more payments to Palin until the original publishing of
1.5-million books has sold over $12.75 million.
Palin received a $1.25 million advance. Unless she was very
generous in
her dealings with the publisher, she should get over $4 per book,
which means
after 300,000 or so are sold, her advance is covered. The publisher
is not
giving the books away to Newsmax subscribers. Newsmax makes their
money back
from the subscriptions. That's Republican math.
And from where did you get the 300k number? IMO, you pulled
it out of your ass--because you don't know at what price the
publisher sold the book.
You would think that even they could figure out that when
you're losing
money on a book that you think you're going to be stuck with, you
don't
lower
the price even further to get still more orders before you even
place your
order to the publisher.
Man! Their thinking is so convoluted I'm not sure it made
sense the way
I
put it.
Your Republican't business math and ideology strikes again.
You don't know what a "profit margin" is, so how could you
figure they suffer a loss or make a profit?
Looks like I was right. Republican't math comes up with 300k
books sold--and then it is profitable. Only problem--you
don't know the cost and you don't know the selling price.
So, show us your Republican't math. ROFLMAO !!!
You said a "publisher margin". I didn't know what you meant. I
know what a
profit margin is, dimwit.
You can't do the math, and it shows.
Your math is about 80% fabrication. That makes it hard to
follow.
If you know what a "margin" is, then you know what
"publisher margin" is. Come on, show us how selling 300k
books reaches profitability per Republican't math. Let's
see, $4.97 * 300k = less than $1.5-million. That is less
CASH coming in than the cost of printing the 1.5-million
books (which is about $4.5-million CASH going out).
They are stuck with trying to sell their proclaimed initial
run of about 1.5-million books and getting back their
initial layout of $12.75-million (= $8.50/book).
They aren't required to recoup an amount you have fabricated.
I said they spent about $12.75-miillion to publish the
book--based on independent factual evidence from a
comparably (slightly LOWER) priced hard-back book. What we
don't see is any factual evidence from you that contradicts
my claim. All you do is talk--and talk--and talk--and
talk--and talk--and talk--and talk--and talk--and talk...
However, the publisher will save money on marketing and
promotion because Palin is avoiding almost everywhere with
an airport and a significant population. She is going on a
bus tour to smaller towns for about three weeks or so to
promote her book--and that seems about it. The only major
city on her tour is essentially the last stop--Chicago, to
be on Oprah. ROFLMAO !!!
She's appearing on Oprah (not sure where you see humor in that,
but you
seem to laugh at the strangest moments) the day BEFORE the release
date. Why
would one go on a book tour to book stores that didn't have the book
yet?
says the book tour has been announced, and it is now less than
two weeks
till the release date, so where you get the 'three weeks ending with
an Oprah
appearance' I don't know. Perhaps the same place you get your other
numbers?
Oprah is not a conservative (LOL). But she is willing to let
Palin be a voluntary public idiot on her show. Be
interesting to see what screwups Palin makes this time....
I thought the Oprah show was the last stop in December--but
it appears it is the first in November. Be interesting to
see if she gives away any books then (or not). Usually, they
do (one to each audience member). Anyway, the clown roadshow
ends about Dec 10, so it runs maybe three weeks
(total)--with Thanksgiving in there also. Ah, maybe it will
be a "Black Friday" bonus !!! Buy one turkey at 58-68 cents
per lb, get one free (Palin's book) !!! The math works...
Dave Letterman keeps inviting her, too.
Will she show? |
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On Fri, 06 Nov 2009 13:11:28 -0600, Jim Alder
<jimalder at (no spam) ssnet.com> wrote:
Quote:
Mention taking it up the ass and here comes Roselles, you dumb cocksucker.
That why you took this down?
Quote: ============================================================
For the Comic Relief factor, someone gave us the ALDERLOON in
Full Pasty-faced color:
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Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 5:41 pm |
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On Fri, 06 Nov 2009 17:31:40 -0600, Jim Alder <jimalder at (no spam) ssnet.com> wrote:
Quote: I would hope not. He's been insulting her, her family and her book
since she
was named as a running mate.
What is wrong with ridiculing the insane politician?
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Regards, Curly
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| Jim Alder... |
Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 6:31 pm |
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"Sid9" <sid9 at (no spam) belsouth.net> wrote in news:hd25vc$hif$1 at (no spam) news.eternal-
september.org:
Quote:
"Gerald Abrahamson" <jerryab at (no spam) visi.com> wrote in message
news:omn8f5dofc1sscauvrlujdoeunue4lq5q9 at (no spam) 4ax.com...
On Thu, 05 Nov 2009 16:55:56 -0600, Jim Alder
jimalder at (no spam) ssnet.com> wrote:
Book still has pre-production costs. Say $3.50 x 1.5-million =
$5.25 million. Book still has marketing costs. Say $1.00 x
1.5-million = $1.50 million (dropped from $2 ea) Book still has
printing costs. Say
$3.00 x 1.5-million = $4.50 million. Book will pay <how much?> in
royalties to Palin? Zero (do the math--if you can). Advance of
$1.5-million (estimate) vs royalties.
She gets whatever the contract says she gets. It's the
publishers problem whether their deal makes or looses money. I
guess you are too
liberal to understand finance and contracts.
Total publisher payout = $12.75 million for 1.5-million
books in the initial run.
Revenue = ????
Why don't you tell us? ROFLMAO !!!
ROFL is right! You fabricate a mess of numbers out of nothing
more than
your fevered imagination and you want me to balance the books for
you? You're
ridiculous. "Pre-production costs" are not "per book". It is the
amount involved in designing THE book, cover, jacket, etc. That amount
is divided by
the number of books sold, not the other way around. The same can be
said of
marketing costs, at least partially. I assume a publisher would
spend more
marketing a best seller like this one, or perhaps it requires less
marketing spending given all the free publicity it gets in the news
and word-of-mouth. She is no doubt also getting free advertising via
her facebook page, which has almost a million onlookers, reportedly.
Are you claiming I created the "what it costs to publish a
book" page--to which I provided a link? Or what? None of us
have seen YOU produce anything relevant to the discussion in terms of
COST OR REVENUE INFO for analysis purposes.
Royalties and printing costs are per book.
No more payments to Palin until the original publishing of
1.5-million books has sold over $12.75 million.
Palin received a $1.25 million advance. Unless she was very
generous in
her dealings with the publisher, she should get over $4 per book,
which means after 300,000 or so are sold, her advance is covered. The
publisher is not
giving the books away to Newsmax subscribers. Newsmax makes their
money back
from the subscriptions. That's Republican math.
And from where did you get the 300k number? IMO, you pulled
it out of your ass--because you don't know at what price the publisher
sold the book.
You would think that even they could figure out that when
you're losing
money on a book that you think you're going to be stuck with, you
don't lower the price even further to get still more orders before
you even place your
order to the publisher.
Man! Their thinking is so convoluted I'm not sure it made sense
the way I put it.
Your Republican't business math and ideology strikes again.
You don't know what a "profit margin" is, so how could you figure
they suffer a loss or make a profit?
Looks like I was right. Republican't math comes up with 300k
books sold--and then it is profitable. Only problem--you
don't know the cost and you don't know the selling price.
So, show us your Republican't math. ROFLMAO !!!
You said a "publisher margin". I didn't know what you meant. I
know what a
profit margin is, dimwit.
You can't do the math, and it shows.
Your math is about 80% fabrication. That makes it hard to follow.
If you know what a "margin" is, then you know what
"publisher margin" is. Come on, show us how selling 300k
books reaches profitability per Republican't math. Let's
see, $4.97 * 300k = less than $1.5-million. That is less
CASH coming in than the cost of printing the 1.5-million books (which
is about $4.5-million CASH going out).
They are stuck with trying to sell their proclaimed initial
run of about 1.5-million books and getting back their initial layout
of $12.75-million (= $8.50/book).
They aren't required to recoup an amount you have fabricated.
I said they spent about $12.75-miillion to publish the
book--based on independent factual evidence from a
comparably (slightly LOWER) priced hard-back book. What we
don't see is any factual evidence from you that contradicts
my claim. All you do is talk--and talk--and talk--and talk--and
talk--and talk--and talk--and talk--and talk...
However, the publisher will save money on marketing and
promotion because Palin is avoiding almost everywhere with
an airport and a significant population. She is going on a
bus tour to smaller towns for about three weeks or so to
promote her book--and that seems about it. The only major
city on her tour is essentially the last stop--Chicago, to be on
Oprah. ROFLMAO !!!
She's appearing on Oprah (not sure where you see humor in that,
but you
seem to laugh at the strangest moments) the day BEFORE the release
date. Why
would one go on a book tour to book stores that didn't have the book
yet?
says the book tour has been announced, and it is now less than
two weeks
till the release date, so where you get the 'three weeks ending with
an Oprah
appearance' I don't know. Perhaps the same place you get your other
numbers?
Oprah is not a conservative (LOL). But she is willing to let
Palin be a voluntary public idiot on her show. Be
interesting to see what screwups Palin makes this time....
I thought the Oprah show was the last stop in December--but
it appears it is the first in November. Be interesting to
see if she gives away any books then (or not). Usually, they
do (one to each audience member). Anyway, the clown roadshow
ends about Dec 10, so it runs maybe three weeks
(total)--with Thanksgiving in there also. Ah, maybe it will
be a "Black Friday" bonus !!! Buy one turkey at 58-68 cents per lb,
get one free (Palin's book) !!! The math works...
Dave Letterman keeps inviting her, too.
Will she show?
I would hope not. He's been insulting her, her family and her book since she
was named as a running mate.
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So, how's that whole "hopey - changey"
thing working out for you so far? |
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| Jim Alder... |
Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 6:40 pm |
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Fuck off, Roselles, you dumb cocksucker.
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So, how's that whole "hopey - changey"
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| Beam Me Up Scotty... |
Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 7:03 pm |
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Jim Alder wrote:
Quote: "Sid9" <sid9 at (no spam) belsouth.net> wrote in news:hd25vc$hif$1 at (no spam) news.eternal-
september.org:
"Gerald Abrahamson" <jerryab at (no spam) visi.com> wrote in message
news:omn8f5dofc1sscauvrlujdoeunue4lq5q9 at (no spam) 4ax.com...
On Thu, 05 Nov 2009 16:55:56 -0600, Jim Alder
jimalder at (no spam) ssnet.com> wrote:
Book still has pre-production costs. Say $3.50 x 1.5-million =
$5.25 million. Book still has marketing costs. Say $1.00 x
1.5-million = $1.50 million (dropped from $2 ea) Book still has
printing costs. Say
$3.00 x 1.5-million = $4.50 million. Book will pay <how much?> in
royalties to Palin? Zero (do the math--if you can). Advance of
$1.5-million (estimate) vs royalties.
She gets whatever the contract says she gets. It's the
publishers problem whether their deal makes or looses money. I
guess you are too
liberal to understand finance and contracts.
Total publisher payout = $12.75 million for 1.5-million
books in the initial run.
Revenue = ????
Why don't you tell us? ROFLMAO !!!
ROFL is right! You fabricate a mess of numbers out of nothing
more than
your fevered imagination and you want me to balance the books for
you? You're
ridiculous. "Pre-production costs" are not "per book". It is the
amount involved in designing THE book, cover, jacket, etc. That amount
is divided by
the number of books sold, not the other way around. The same can be
said of
marketing costs, at least partially. I assume a publisher would
spend more
marketing a best seller like this one, or perhaps it requires less
marketing spending given all the free publicity it gets in the news
and word-of-mouth. She is no doubt also getting free advertising via
her facebook page, which has almost a million onlookers, reportedly.
Are you claiming I created the "what it costs to publish a
book" page--to which I provided a link? Or what? None of us
have seen YOU produce anything relevant to the discussion in terms of
COST OR REVENUE INFO for analysis purposes.
Royalties and printing costs are per book.
No more payments to Palin until the original publishing of
1.5-million books has sold over $12.75 million.
Palin received a $1.25 million advance. Unless she was very
generous in
her dealings with the publisher, she should get over $4 per book,
which means after 300,000 or so are sold, her advance is covered. The
publisher is not
giving the books away to Newsmax subscribers. Newsmax makes their
money back
from the subscriptions. That's Republican math.
And from where did you get the 300k number? IMO, you pulled
it out of your ass--because you don't know at what price the publisher
sold the book.
You would think that even they could figure out that when
you're losing
money on a book that you think you're going to be stuck with, you
don't lower the price even further to get still more orders before
you even place your
order to the publisher.
Man! Their thinking is so convoluted I'm not sure it made sense
the way I put it.
Your Republican't business math and ideology strikes again.
You don't know what a "profit margin" is, so how could you figure
they suffer a loss or make a profit?
Looks like I was right. Republican't math comes up with 300k
books sold--and then it is profitable. Only problem--you
don't know the cost and you don't know the selling price.
So, show us your Republican't math. ROFLMAO !!!
You said a "publisher margin". I didn't know what you meant. I
know what a
profit margin is, dimwit.
You can't do the math, and it shows.
Your math is about 80% fabrication. That makes it hard to follow.
If you know what a "margin" is, then you know what
"publisher margin" is. Come on, show us how selling 300k
books reaches profitability per Republican't math. Let's
see, $4.97 * 300k = less than $1.5-million. That is less
CASH coming in than the cost of printing the 1.5-million books (which
is about $4.5-million CASH going out).
They are stuck with trying to sell their proclaimed initial
run of about 1.5-million books and getting back their initial layout
of $12.75-million (= $8.50/book).
They aren't required to recoup an amount you have fabricated.
I said they spent about $12.75-miillion to publish the
book--based on independent factual evidence from a
comparably (slightly LOWER) priced hard-back book. What we
don't see is any factual evidence from you that contradicts
my claim. All you do is talk--and talk--and talk--and talk--and
talk--and talk--and talk--and talk--and talk...
However, the publisher will save money on marketing and
promotion because Palin is avoiding almost everywhere with
an airport and a significant population. She is going on a
bus tour to smaller towns for about three weeks or so to
promote her book--and that seems about it. The only major
city on her tour is essentially the last stop--Chicago, to be on
Oprah. ROFLMAO !!!
She's appearing on Oprah (not sure where you see humor in that,
but you
seem to laugh at the strangest moments) the day BEFORE the release
date. Why
would one go on a book tour to book stores that didn't have the book
yet?
says the book tour has been announced, and it is now less than
two weeks
till the release date, so where you get the 'three weeks ending with
an Oprah
appearance' I don't know. Perhaps the same place you get your other
numbers?
Oprah is not a conservative (LOL). But she is willing to let
Palin be a voluntary public idiot on her show. Be
interesting to see what screwups Palin makes this time....
I thought the Oprah show was the last stop in December--but
it appears it is the first in November. Be interesting to
see if she gives away any books then (or not). Usually, they
do (one to each audience member). Anyway, the clown roadshow
ends about Dec 10, so it runs maybe three weeks
(total)--with Thanksgiving in there also. Ah, maybe it will
be a "Black Friday" bonus !!! Buy one turkey at 58-68 cents per lb,
get one free (Palin's book) !!! The math works...
Dave Letterman keeps inviting her, too.
Will she show?
Why would she go to see someone that is well on his way to becoming a
sexual offender... or sexual predator?
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| Jim Alder... |
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Beam Me Up Scotty <Then-Destroy-Everything at (no spam) Talk-n-dog.com> wrote in
news:4af4b92b$0$19076$ec3e2dad at (no spam) unlimited.usenetmonster.com:
Quote: "Sid9" <sid9 at (no spam) belsouth.net> wrote in news:hd25vc$hif$1 at (no spam) news.eternal-
september.org:
I thought the Oprah show was the last stop in December--but
it appears it is the first in November. Be interesting to
see if she gives away any books then (or not). Usually, they
do (one to each audience member). Anyway, the clown roadshow
ends about Dec 10, so it runs maybe three weeks
(total)--with Thanksgiving in there also. Ah, maybe it will
be a "Black Friday" bonus !!! Buy one turkey at 58-68 cents per lb, get
one free (Palin's book) !!! The math works...
Dave Letterman keeps inviting her, too.
Will she show?
Why would she go to see someone that is well on his way to becoming a
sexual offender... or sexual predator?
Hard to believe that an affair with a co-worker can get you charged with
either of those things in NYC. Did he rape a teenager I didn't hear about?
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| Winston_Smith... |
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smorgas at (no spam) board.com wrote:
Quote: On Thu, 05 Nov 2009 18:32:41 -0700, Winston_Smith wrote:
Gore makes us think that the only reason for all this apocalyptic
global warming gloom and doom is for him and some of his friends to
make a fast buck. And do it by looting the public treasury courtesy
of Obama and the D Congress.
So, how does that explain the Artic ice mass now 300
miles inland?
The question is not "what's happening"; the question is "WHY is it
happening". And Gore's ploy to raid the treasury begs the question
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| Beam Me Up Scotty... |
Posted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 10:57 pm |
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Jim Alder wrote:
Quote: Beam Me Up Scotty <Then-Destroy-Everything at (no spam) Talk-n-dog.com> wrote in
news:4af4b92b$0$19076$ec3e2dad at (no spam) unlimited.usenetmonster.com:
"Sid9" <sid9 at (no spam) belsouth.net> wrote in news:hd25vc$hif$1 at (no spam) news.eternal-
september.org:
I thought the Oprah show was the last stop in December--but
it appears it is the first in November. Be interesting to
see if she gives away any books then (or not). Usually, they
do (one to each audience member). Anyway, the clown roadshow
ends about Dec 10, so it runs maybe three weeks
(total)--with Thanksgiving in there also. Ah, maybe it will
be a "Black Friday" bonus !!! Buy one turkey at 58-68 cents per lb, get
one free (Palin's book) !!! The math works...
Dave Letterman keeps inviting her, too.
Will she show?
Why would she go to see someone that is well on his way to becoming a
sexual offender... or sexual predator?
Hard to believe that an affair with a co-worker can get you charged with
either of those things in NYC. Did he rape a teenager I didn't hear about?
he talks about raping teens.... who knows what he has really done.
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Beam Me Up Scotty <Then-Destroy-Everything at (no spam) Talk-n-dog.com> wrote in
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Quote: Jim Alder wrote:
Beam Me Up Scotty <Then-Destroy-Everything at (no spam) Talk-n-dog.com> wrote in
news:4af4b92b$0$19076$ec3e2dad at (no spam) unlimited.usenetmonster.com:
"Sid9" <sid9 at (no spam) belsouth.net> wrote in news:hd25vc$hif$1 at (no spam) news.eternal-
september.org:
I thought the Oprah show was the last stop in December--but
it appears it is the first in November. Be interesting to
see if she gives away any books then (or not). Usually, they
do (one to each audience member). Anyway, the clown roadshow
ends about Dec 10, so it runs maybe three weeks
(total)--with Thanksgiving in there also. Ah, maybe it will
be a "Black Friday" bonus !!! Buy one turkey at 58-68 cents per lb, get
one free (Palin's book) !!! The math works...
Dave Letterman keeps inviting her, too.
Will she show?
Why would she go to see someone that is well on his way to becoming a
sexual
offender... or sexual predator?
Hard to believe that an affair with a co-worker can get you charged
with
either of those things in NYC. Did he rape a teenager I didn't hear
about?
he talks about raping teens.... who knows what he has really done.
Not me, certainly. Can't stand the guy and almost never watch his show.
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| Gerald Abrahamson... |
Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2009 1:33 am |
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On Fri, 06 Nov 2009 13:53:29 -0600, Jim Alder
<jimalder at (no spam) ssnet.com> wrote:
Quote: Gerald Abrahamson <jerryab at (no spam) visi.com> wrote:
Jim Alder <jimalder at (no spam) ssnet.com> wrote:
Palin received a $1.25 million advance. Unless she was very generous in
her dealings with the publisher, she should get over $4 per book, which
means
after 300,000 or so are sold, her advance is covered. The publisher is not
giving the books away to Newsmax subscribers. Newsmax makes their money back
from the subscriptions. That's Republican math.
And from where did you get the 300k number? IMO, you pulled
it out of your ass--because you don't know at what price the
publisher sold the book.
I got it from your link. 15% of list price, or $28.99 is $4.35. Divide
$1.25 million by that and you get about 300,000. I would assume that the
author's cut is the same no matter how many are sold. I could be wrong.
But who says she gets 15%? Walmart and Target are NOT
selling below cost. So, that means the delivered cost to the
store approximates $9/book. So there is no 15% in it for
anyone. However, if the publisher is dumping the book on the
market to get rid of it, my point is made.
Quote:
You would think that even they could figure out that when you're
losing money on a book that you think you're going to be stuck with,
you don't lower the price even further to get still more orders before
you even place your order to the publisher.
But if they are contracted to print 1.5-million books, then
they have to dump them somewhere, to someone....
Quote:
Looks like I was right. Republican't math comes up with 300k
books sold--and then it is profitable. Only problem--you
don't know the cost and you don't know the selling price.
So, show us your Republican't math. ROFLMAO !!!
Your math is about 80% fabrication. That makes it hard to follow.
Nope, didn't. It could have been the white part on the left side of the
page, asshole. :)
So, if it is printed in reverse, there is no margin...
Interesting....
Quote: Come on, show us how selling 300k
books reaches profitability per Republican't math.
"Unless she was very generous in her dealings with the publisher, she
should get over $4 per book, which means after 300,000 or so are sold, her
advance is covered."
Sounds mighty straightforward and self-explanatory to me, but you're
clueless?
If the books sell she gets a commisson AFTER the advance is
paid off. So far, no sign that has happened.
Quote:
Let's see, $4.97 * 300k = less than $1.5-million.
$4.97? To whom did the publisher sell "Going Rogue" at that price?
People like you.
Quote: That is less CASH coming in than the cost of printing the 1.5-million
books (which is about $4.5-million CASH going out).
They are stuck with trying to sell their proclaimed initial
run of about 1.5-million books and getting back their initial layout
of $12.75-million (= $8.50/book).
They aren't required to recoup an amount you have fabricated.
That is approximately what it costs. Haven't seen any
figures to contradict it.
Quote:
I said they spent about $12.75-miillion to publish the
book--based on independent factual evidence from a
comparably (slightly LOWER) priced hard-back book.
What book was it, do you know? You call it a comparable book, but is it?
Or is it a set of statistical averages? Does a best seller fall under the same
parameters?
Tell us how a "best seller" is sold BELOW COST before it is
released....
Quote:
I think if we checked, we'd find the preponderance of verbosity is on your
side, not mine.
My talk is factual--and documented. Yours is not.
Quote:
However, the publisher will save money on marketing and
promotion because Palin is avoiding almost everywhere with
an airport and a significant population. She is going on a
bus tour to smaller towns for about three weeks or so to
promote her book--and that seems about it. The only major
city on her tour is essentially the last stop--Chicago, to be on Oprah.
ROFLMAO !!!
She's appearing on Oprah (not sure where you see humor in that, but you
seem to laugh at the strangest moments) the day BEFORE the release date. Why
would one go on a book tour to book stores that didn't have the book yet?
She is on Oprah before the release date...
Quote: Oprah is not a conservative (LOL). But she is willing to let
Palin be a voluntary public idiot on her show.
I guess if you can judge the book before it comes out, you can critique
the show before it airs, too. I think you missed your calling. You should be
taking Ms. Cleo's place.
Just about the whole world has seen Palin in action. And she
did NOT write the book. So, unless she went to acting
classes intensively for the past six months, we won't see a
change. Maybe THAT is why we haven't seen much Tina Fay on
TV for the past approximately six months....
As long as Palin is in public, Tina Fay will be able to make
a living. ROFLMAO !!!
Quote:
Be interesting to see what screwups Palin makes this time....
More interesting that you thought someone would go on a book tour before
the book was released.
Then they probably will this time. And you will laugh derisively that they
are giving away Palin's book, and wonder how Oprah can afford to give away a
couple hundred books. LOL!! Didn't she give them all CARS one show?
Clueless once again. Those are free from the publisher (PR
or marketing expense--a cost of doing business and added
to/included in the cost of the book).
Plus, Oprah screwed up with car giveaway. She forgot about
gift taxes and other costs. So, she had to work out a deal
to cover those costs as well (because some/many people could
not afford the cars with the taxes they would owe).
Quote:
Anyway, the clown roadshow
ends about Dec 10, so it runs maybe three weeks
(total)--with Thanksgiving in there also. Ah, maybe it will
be a "Black Friday" bonus !!! Buy one turkey at 58-68 cents
per lb, get one free (Palin's book) !!! The math works...
So does the hate. Works for you, anyway.
Disdain for Palin's incompetence and malfeasance. After
Palin leaves the political scene, she will no longer be a
legitimate target. Until then, she is as much in the public
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Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2009 1:38 am |
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On Wed, 4 Nov 2009 14:25:23 -0800, TinLizziedl <nothere at (no spam) donttry.com>
wrote:
Quote: One of the reasons Government exists is to protect the rights of it's
citizens, both the Majority and the Minorities. The social conservative
movement is not about protecting anyone. Except possibly the bastard
spawn of rapists....
Its fascinating h ow Tinlizzard picks the tiny minority of Conservatives
that are bible belters and make the claim they are everyone in the
Right side of the asle.
And totally ignores the Marxists that control the DNC.
Are you simply blind, stupid or just fucking crazy? Or are you a DNC
shill?
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| Gunner Asch... |
Posted: Sat Nov 07, 2009 1:40 am |
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On Thu, 5 Nov 2009 09:38:36 -0800, TinLizziedl <nothere at (no spam) donttry.com>
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The social conservative movement wants to ban any expression of self
that conflicts with the rabidly conservative evangelical christian
ethos.
Odd..thats about 10% of the Conservative side of the asle
And yet you try to foist off on all the readers that they control the
GOP totally.
You are either a fucking moron, or a devious leftist bastard.
Which is it?
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