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| cop welfare... |
Posted: Mon Nov 02, 2009 3:33 pm |
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On Nov 2, 5:38 pm, znuybv <tjwil... at (no spam) yahoo.com> wrote:
Quote: On Oct 24, 6:05 am, Peter Franks <n... at (no spam) none.com> wrote:
Cliff wrote:
http://blog.newsweek.com/blogs/thegaggle/archive/2009/10/23/sarah-pal....
LOL
And it's not even published yet !!!
It is due to a price war between Wal-Mart and Amazon, NOT because of
lack of interest. From your OWN referenced article:
"But there may be more to the story: over the past week or so, Amazon
has been steadily dropping the price of Palin’s book to compete with
other retailers, including Wal-Mart, which offered it for presale at $10."
"With just under a month to go before it’s released to the masses, Sarah
Palin’s upcoming autobiography, Going Rogue, has already been near the
top of Amazon’s bestseller list for weeks."
Sorry, my friend, you've been taken, hook, line, and sinker by the
Newsweek propaganda machine.
It's how retail works. If a retailer pays $1,000,000. for his
merchandise when he makes $1,000,000 in sales; all the rest is
profit. He can sell it at whatever price he wants.- Hide quoted text -
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"It's how retail works. If a retailer pays $1,000,000. for his
merchandise when he makes $1,000,000 in sales; all the rest is
profit. He can sell it at whatever price he wants."
that's very good.
i like that.
not many ppl realise how "entrepreneurs" think.
it's like, "my rent is so low, my overhead is so low, my investment is
so small, i can just sit here and screw the public as long as it feels
good! ha-ha!"
i mean, to hell with a fair price, right?
or did i get it wrong? |
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Posted: Mon Nov 02, 2009 4:33 pm |
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On Mon, 02 Nov 2009 12:21:13 -0600, Jim Alder
<jimalder at (no spam) ssnet.com> wrote:
Quote: "Selling Palin."
I take it back. It means you're an idiot.
"Idiot".....
Lets see........
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On Sun, 30 Aug 2009 17:43:18 -0500, Jim Alder <jimalder at (no spam) ssnet.com> wrote:
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NO ONE IS WHINING, SHIT4BRAINS! WE ARE DISCUSSING SOMETHING. YOU, BEING A
SOCIAL MISFIT AND A PATHOLOGICAL FUCK, ARE UNABLE TO DISCUSS ANY GODDAM THING.
IF IT'S NOT ABOUT YOU OR A CHANCE TO SHOW EVERYONE HOW FUCKING SMART (YOU
THINK) YOU ARE, YOU AREN'T INTERESTED! |
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| Jim Alder... |
Posted: Mon Nov 02, 2009 5:33 pm |
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Ernst Blofeld <blofeld42 at (no spam) hotmail.com> wrote in news:d8099a9b-9354-4683-8ea5-
edf3cf141d08 at (no spam) x6g2000prc.googlegroups.com:
Quote: Those higher-prices sales don't happen if the
publisher dramatically cuts the cost to the resellers BEFORE
release--which is what we are seeing now.
No. The retailers are selling the book below their cost to drive
traffic to their site, either bricks & mortar or web. The same thing
is happening with the latest Steven King book, which is guaranteed to
sell. It's a loss leader for the retailers; the publisher has nothing
to do with it.
If they're selling below cost with free shipping, why don't other
booksellers buy from them, then sell them at full price after the release?
Quote: The big retailers like WalMart are trying to skim off the traffic
normally going to other sites for about the top 10 selling books.
Palin's book will fall into that category. WalMart and Amazon are
engaging in an old-fashioned price war.
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So, how's that whole "hopey - changey"
thing working out for you so far? |
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| Ernst Blofeld... |
Posted: Mon Nov 02, 2009 7:25 pm |
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On Nov 2, 9:17 pm, smor... at (no spam) board.com wrote:
Quote: On Mon, 2 Nov 2009 13:46:17 -0800 (PST), Ernst Blofeld
blofel... at (no spam) hotmail.com> wrote:
No. The retailers are selling the book below their cost to drive
traffic to their site, either bricks & mortar or web
And faux, Moonie times, WorldNut daily, American
speckledtater, and dozens of other rightwing places
order it by the truckload and give it away to
mushbrains.
Um, no. It's a best seller driven by grass roots demand. That's why
WalMart
and Amazon are in a price war: it's one of the most popular upcoming
books. If it was driven by a few major buyers WalMart and Amazon
wouldn't be interested; they sell to individuals, and the whole point
of
the price war is to drive individuals to their sites, not a half-dozen
institutional buyers. |
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| Jim Alder... |
Posted: Mon Nov 02, 2009 10:11 pm |
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Ernst Blofeld <blofeld42 at (no spam) hotmail.com> wrote in news:d6b4a603-4485-4de1-9422-
aa94d5baf248 at (no spam) 15g2000yqy.googlegroups.com:
Not sure if three little paragraphs qualifies as 'big news' (or why it
took two guys to write them) but then, WSJ isn't the publishing world, either.
I wish it would say how much they were paying for their books, but such is
life. This article from the same source says categorically that they are
selling for below cost.
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704746304574503813928512316.html
?mod=googlenews_wsj
Apparently small retailers do pay about half retail price. I would still
think that the large retailers like Amazon would get a lower wholesale price,
but obviously they are losing money per unit, or they wouldn't ration books to
two or three per customer.
Quote: ---
Book publishers are worried they and retail chains could be caught in
the cross fire as Amazon.com Inc. and Wal-Mart Stores Inc. ratchet up
their price war over online book sales.
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The veteran publisher said when major retailers are allowed to sell
below cost, it represents an aggressive form of price deflation that
creates "all sorts of disturbances in the market." He noted that in
France it is illegal to sell a book below cost, adding, "I would
welcome similar legislation here."
Hachette is receiving its customary wholesale price from Wal-Mart and
Amazon, Mr. Young said. "We aren't subsidizing this in any way," he
said. "Not a cent. And Wal-Mart doesn't get a special discount."
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The Wal-Mart-Amazon faceoff was a hot topic Friday at the Frankfurt
Book Fair, where reaction ranged from shock to resignation. "I'm
absolutely horrified," said Maja Thomas, senior vice president for
digital and audio at Hachette Book Group, publisher of the popular
Twilight series. "What you get is a race to the bottom."
The Frankfurt fair, which has roots dating back five centuries, is the
premier annual gathering for the book publishing industry, drawing
thousands of publishing executives and other visitors from around the
world.
Most U.S. executives at the fair declined to speak publicly about the
price war, for fear of offending either of the retailers. Both of them
are major buyers of books from the likes of Bertelsmann AG's Random
House, Pearson PLC's Penguin Group and News Corp.'s HarperCollins
Publishers. (News Corp. owns The Wall Street Journal.)
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So, how's that whole "hopey - changey"
thing working out for you so far? |
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Posted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 12:17 am |
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On Mon, 2 Nov 2009 13:46:17 -0800 (PST), Ernst Blofeld
<blofeld42 at (no spam) hotmail.com> wrote:
Quote: No. The retailers are selling the book below their cost to drive
traffic to their site, either bricks & mortar or web
And faux, Moonie times, WorldNut daily, American
speckledtater, and dozens of other rightwing places
order it by the truckload and give it away to
mushbrains. |
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Posted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 12:19 am |
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On Mon, 2 Nov 2009 15:38:12 -0800 (PST), znuybv
<tjwilson at (no spam) yahoo.com> wrote:
Quote: It's how retail works. If a retailer pays $1,000,000. for his
merchandise when he makes $1,000,000 in sales; all the rest is
profit. He can sell it at whatever price he wants.
That don't explain the "way it works" when Faux, Moonie
times, World nut daily buy a truckload at low prices
and then give it away, McSwill |
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| Ernst Blofeld... |
Posted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 5:24 am |
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On Nov 3, 7:08 am, smor... at (no spam) board.com wrote:
Quote: On Mon, 2 Nov 2009 21:25:53 -0800 (PST), Ernst Blofeld
blofel... at (no spam) hotmail.com> wrote:
On Nov 2, 9:17 pm, smor... at (no spam) board.com wrote:
On Mon, 2 Nov 2009 13:46:17 -0800 (PST), Ernst Blofeld
blofel... at (no spam) hotmail.com> wrote:
No. The retailers are selling the book below their cost to drive
traffic to their site, either bricks & mortar or web
And faux, Moonie times, WorldNut daily, American
speckledtater, and dozens of other rightwing places
order it by the truckload and give it away to
mushbrains.
Um, no. It's a best seller driven by grass roots demand.
You know that because of what?
If the aforementioned outlets giving it away inflate
the numbers----what evidence do you have that Walmart,
etal, is influenced that way.
You think you know more about the nature of demand for the book than
WalMart and Amazon? Amazon has direct knowledge of demand--they look
at their pre-orders from the web site. If it's one order of 100,000
from World Net Daily, they're not going to bother with a retail price
war aimed at individuals that costs them money on every copy sold.
And does World Net Daily or the American Spectator or the Washington
Times even "give away" books? I haven't seen it. The Spectator has I
think used books as premiums for signing up for a subscription, but
that's not quite the same thing; they're using the book to drive
subscriptions because the book is popular in the first place. You
don't get subscriptions for bundling "Summary of Atlantic Bulk
Shipping Rates: 1948-1950", you get subscriptions for bundling
something people want. |
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Posted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 10:08 am |
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On Mon, 2 Nov 2009 21:25:53 -0800 (PST), Ernst Blofeld
<blofeld42 at (no spam) hotmail.com> wrote:
Quote: On Nov 2, 9:17 pm, smor... at (no spam) board.com wrote:
On Mon, 2 Nov 2009 13:46:17 -0800 (PST), Ernst Blofeld
blofel... at (no spam) hotmail.com> wrote:
No. The retailers are selling the book below their cost to drive
traffic to their site, either bricks & mortar or web
And faux, Moonie times, WorldNut daily, American
speckledtater, and dozens of other rightwing places
order it by the truckload and give it away to
mushbrains.
Um, no. It's a best seller driven by grass roots demand.
You know that because of what?
If the aforementioned outlets giving it away inflate
the numbers----what evidence do you have that Walmart,
etal, is influenced that way. |
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| Jim Alder... |
Posted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 12:48 pm |
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Ernst Blofeld <blofeld42 at (no spam) hotmail.com> wrote in news:75ce7a6f-1deb-4708-84a1-
83cbf86320ea at (no spam) g23g2000yqh.googlegroups.com:
Quote: On Nov 2, 9:17 pm, smor... at (no spam) board.com wrote:
On Mon, 2 Nov 2009 13:46:17 -0800 (PST), Ernst Blofeld
blofel... at (no spam) hotmail.com> wrote:
No. The retailers are selling the book below their cost to drive
traffic to their site, either bricks & mortar or web
And faux, Moonie times, WorldNut daily, American
speckledtater, and dozens of other rightwing places
order it by the truckload and give it away to mushbrains.
Um, no. It's a best seller driven by grass roots demand. That's why
WalMart
and Amazon are in a price war: it's one of the most popular upcoming
books. If it was driven by a few major buyers WalMart and Amazon
wouldn't be interested; they sell to individuals, and the whole point
of
the price war is to drive individuals to their sites, not a half-dozen
institutional buyers.
Sorry, that won't fly with these people. They are working under the
undeniable assumption that the book is a dog. They don't want to hear or use
the word "bestseller" with Palin's book. It has to be a dog because they hate
the writer.
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So, how's that whole "hopey - changey"
thing working out for you so far? |
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Posted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 1:16 pm |
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On Oct 24, 12:16 pm, "ArmyOfDorkness" <DorkAsKni... at (no spam) hotmail.com>
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Quote: "HH&C" <hot-ham-and-che... at (no spam) hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:e21a9999-5da7-4fe7-8cf7-9d52ff743db2 at (no spam) b18g2000vbl.googlegroups.com...
On Oct 24, 5:31 am, Cliff <Clhuprichguessw... at (no spam) aoltmovetheperiodc.om
wrote:
http://blog.newsweek.com/blogs/thegaggle/archive/2009/10/23/sarah-pal....
LOL
And it's not even published yet !!!
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Cliff
That's OK, Glenn and Mark's books are flying off the shelves in Ohio.
You have to call around or go to Amazon.com
Lots of idiots in Ohio?
Where do you live? New Jersey? |
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| Cliff... |
Posted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 2:32 pm |
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On Mon, 02 Nov 2009 12:21:13 -0600, Jim Alder <jimalder at (no spam) ssnet.com> wrote:
Quote: Cliff <Clhuprichguesswhat at (no spam) aoltmovetheperiodc.om> wrote in
news:u7dte552h2cuh4gg2i2prlt03minj0h361 at (no spam) 4ax.com:
On Sat, 31 Oct 2009 18:45:58 -0500, Jim Alder <jimalder at (no spam) ssnet.com> wrote:
Cliff <Clhuprichguesswhat at (no spam) aoltmovetheperiodc.om> wrote in
news:h16oe5p5554n1fh0b4i5ei9g5447ba6i2h at (no spam) 4ax.com:
On Fri, 30 Oct 2009 12:14:51 -0500, Jim Alder <jimalder at (no spam) ssnet.com> wrote:
Cliff <Clhuprichguesswhat at (no spam) aoltmovetheperiodc.om> wrote in
news:31ale5hfnk00jbphvsi4o0r209fiqacse4 at (no spam) 4ax.com:
On Thu, 29 Oct 2009 13:18:10 -0500, Jim Alder <jimalder at (no spam) ssnet.com
wrote:
Cliff <Clhuprichguesswhat at (no spam) aoltmovetheperiodc.om> wrote in
news:nnaie5h3bcpm9rp65ijdbdt1hd5ifqdca3 at (no spam) 4ax.com:
On Wed, 28 Oct 2009 10:00:29 -0500, Jim Alder <jimalder at (no spam) ssnet.com
wrote:
So how much should she sell for?
I'm not selling them. I (We) don't know how much they cost
wholesale.
Selling Palin.
Thank you for making your meaningless responses as brief as possible.
Quite a timesaver.
Indeed.
http://anchorage.craigslist.org/ads/1443452226.html
http://anchorage.craigslist.org/ads/1443439108.html
http://anchorage.craigslist.org/ads/1433349259.html
Ok, so now you're a perv. So?
"Selling Palin."
THAT DOESN'T MEAN ANYTHING, CLIFF!!!
"Selling Palin."
I take it back. It means you're an idiot.
You bought, eh?
LOL ...
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Posted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 5:28 pm |
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On Nov 3, 12:48 pm, Jim Alder <jimal... at (no spam) ssnet.com> wrote:
Quote: Sorry, that won't fly with these people. They are working under the
undeniable assumption that the book is a dog. They don't want to hear or use
the word "bestseller" with Palin's book. It has to be a dog because they hate
the writer.
As with most things, liberals simply reject our reality
and substitute their own. |
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Posted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 10:34 pm |
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Cliff <Clhuprichguesswhat at (no spam) aoltmovetheperiodc.om> wrote:
Quote: On Sat, 31 Oct 2009 20:25:39 -0700, Winston_Smith <not_real at (no spam) bogus.net> wrote:
Cliff <Clhuprichguesswhat at (no spam) aoltmovetheperiodc.om> wrote:
On Fri, 30 Oct 2009 20:21:18 -0700, Winston_Smith <not_real at (no spam) bogus.net> wrote:
Cliff <Clhuprichguesswhat at (no spam) aoltmovetheperiodc.om> wrote:
I wrote "marketing Palin".
Tell a lie often enough and someone will believe it. You wrote "the
neocons & wingers were marketing Palin". But they are not. You are
full of shit.
http://nymag.com/daily/intel/2008/11/william_kristol_eyeing_role_as.html
http://nymag.com/daily/intel/2008/10/sarah_palin_overheated_conserv.html
You wrote none of this prior to your erroneous remark.
I'm not at fault for you not knowing much.
Who did you think chose & marketed her?
Her publisher, Amazon, Walmart, and other mass book marketers. That's
what I wrote and you wrote it was a bunch of NeoCons and wingers.
Keep telling your lie; keep misquoting yourself. There is probably
three people out there that are dumb enough to buy it. |
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| Winston_Smith... |
Posted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 10:58 pm |
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cop welfare <cop.welfare at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:
Quote: On Nov 1, 9:26 pm, Winston_Smith <not_r... at (no spam) bogus.net> wrote:
Too_Many_Tools <too_many_to... at (no spam) yahoo.com> wrote:
On Oct 30, 10:18 pm, Winston_Smith <not_r... at (no spam) bogus.net> wrote:
Cliff <Clhuprichguessw... at (no spam) aoltmovetheperiodc.om> wrote:
On Thu, 29 Oct 2009 20:57:17 -0700, Winston_Smith <not_r... at (no spam) bogus.net> wrote:
I didn't characterize them one way or the other. I just pointed out
they exist and they will be a political factor. It is foolish to
pretend they don't exist or that they won't have an effect.
The idiot vote.
Sell them a pack of lies ... ort he same ones again ... by then
they may have forgotten .......
It worked for Obama.
Maybe.
But it worked twice for Bush.
TMT
Agreed. Thanks for accepting that Bush and Obama are just about the
same thing.
"Thanks for accepting that Bush and Obama are just about the
same thing." ws
so where does that leave you.
That leaves me an old school conservative - before Bush and his merry
band of NeoCons perverted the term - that is hoping against hope we
may find some way to save this country.
Not at all certain that's going to happen (if it's even possible) the
backup plan is following the traditional survivalist plan of storage
for the short term and doing what I can toward developing
self-sufficient production of the basics for the longer run.
If things go good, I've enjoyed the learning experience. If they go
badly, I'm a bit better off than most folks and maybe I can give them
a clue when they find out they need to do the same thing. |
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