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Freedom Man...
Posted: Thu Oct 15, 2009 12:30 pm
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Quote:
"Obwon" <Obwon at (no spam) real.com> wrote in message
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< snip >

Quote:
Bloomberg has finally found the straw that broke the camels
back for me. He's having Ghouliani campaign for him! The

same man who doomed our uniformed first responders and
others, civilians, residents and volunteers to horrible
cardio-pulminary diseased slow deaths, by deciding that it
was more important to get the stock market back opened,
quickly, than it was to protect all these lives.

Quote:
The official pronouncement, "The air is safe to breath"
may seem pretty darned innocuous to the lay person, but to

those who know better it is dreadful if not made correctly.
This is because that official pronouncement, determines
what protocols are active or deactive on site. So, if they
say the air is safe and it isn't, you are not entitled to
the protocols that are designed to safeguard your health in
a hazardous environment. So, if the air was declared
unsafe, for example, everyone at ground zero would have
been required to observe rules and protocols designed to
protect from the effects of bad or dangerous
air/contaminants. You automatically are required to wear
breathing equipment, masks, and are allowed to work for
certain prescribed periods of time in the area.

Quote:
Without a declaration that the air is unsafe, you are not
only denied such protections, but if you bring your own

masks etc., you will be told that you shouldn't wear it
because you're scaring others. Keep it up and you'll be
removed from the job/area, in the officially sanctioned
effort to "ease the minds" of your fellow workers.

Quote:
Obviously such needed restrictions would slow the recovery
effort, taking much more time for the stock market to

re-open, because they'd be thereby advised to wait for the
all clear before returning to work.

Quote:
The Ghoul disregarded the needs and safety of his own
fellow official first responders, as well as the lives of

the citizentry and volunteers who had access to the area.
Depriving them of the official support needed to protect
themselves from the hazardous air. He doomed them to
horrible deaths, when as mayor, he could have simply
differed with the WH and since it was his turf, he could
have protected them all. No, he kissed up because he
wanted his main man Kerik appointed to lead Homeland
Security, police and firemens lives be damned. And
Bloomberg is now "breaking bread" with this man. The very
man whom he acknowledged administered from a racist
perspective! He might just as well have picked David Duke
for a running mate! Can anyone now be sure that he would
not?

--------------------
Well said, Obwon!

While Billionaire Bloomberg does not outwardly exhibit the mean-spiritedness
of fascist Giuliani, he cannot be unaware of Giuliani's true nature. The
mere fact that he fails to distance himself from Giuliani, and embraces him
in mutual support, indicates that Bloomberg is morally no better. This is
also obvious in Bloomberg's blatant disregard for the will of the people and
the democratic process in his sabotage of term limits so he could run for
mayor again.

I suspect that Bloomberg would also have told us "the air is safe to
breathe," thus, as Giuliani did, sacrificing many lives to the RepubliKKKan
God of wealth and power. I consider it likely that Giuliani was in on the
9/11 conspiracy. I wondered at the time why he ordered the police to not
allow photographs to be taken near ground zero - an order violating
citizens' rights was par for the course with Giuliani, but why this one?
Simply because those in the know would want to minimize any evidence of a
conspiracy from materializing, and photos showing red-hot or molten iron
would be just that - evidence of the use of demolition explosives to
collapse the buildings.

What disease has affected the minds of Americans, that they sheepishly
tolerate and suffer under such malevolence as Giuliani's, and now
Bloomberg's?
 
Obwon...
Posted: Fri Oct 16, 2009 7:34 am
Guest
On Thu, 15 Oct 2009 14:30:47 -0400, "Freedom Man"
<liberty at (no spam) once.net> wrote:

Quote:
"Obwon" <Obwon at (no spam) real.com> wrote in message
news:9ju8d5hvkh1rhijb7qipnm1ga47j9sh99i at (no spam) 4ax.com...

snip

Bloomberg has finally found the straw that broke the camels
back for me. He's having Ghouliani campaign for him! The
same man who doomed our uniformed first responders and
others, civilians, residents and volunteers to horrible
cardio-pulminary diseased slow deaths, by deciding that it
was more important to get the stock market back opened,
quickly, than it was to protect all these lives.

The official pronouncement, "The air is safe to breath"
may seem pretty darned innocuous to the lay person, but to
those who know better it is dreadful if not made correctly.
This is because that official pronouncement, determines
what protocols are active or deactive on site. So, if they
say the air is safe and it isn't, you are not entitled to
the protocols that are designed to safeguard your health in
a hazardous environment. So, if the air was declared
unsafe, for example, everyone at ground zero would have
been required to observe rules and protocols designed to
protect from the effects of bad or dangerous
air/contaminants. You automatically are required to wear
breathing equipment, masks, and are allowed to work for
certain prescribed periods of time in the area.

Without a declaration that the air is unsafe, you are not
only denied such protections, but if you bring your own
masks etc., you will be told that you shouldn't wear it
because you're scaring others. Keep it up and you'll be
removed from the job/area, in the officially sanctioned
effort to "ease the minds" of your fellow workers.

Obviously such needed restrictions would slow the recovery
effort, taking much more time for the stock market to
re-open, because they'd be thereby advised to wait for the
all clear before returning to work.

The Ghoul disregarded the needs and safety of his own
fellow official first responders, as well as the lives of
the citizentry and volunteers who had access to the area.
Depriving them of the official support needed to protect
themselves from the hazardous air. He doomed them to
horrible deaths, when as mayor, he could have simply
differed with the WH and since it was his turf, he could
have protected them all. No, he kissed up because he
wanted his main man Kerik appointed to lead Homeland
Security, police and firemens lives be damned. And
Bloomberg is now "breaking bread" with this man. The very
man whom he acknowledged administered from a racist
perspective! He might just as well have picked David Duke
for a running mate! Can anyone now be sure that he would
not?

--------------------
Well said, Obwon!

While Billionaire Bloomberg does not outwardly exhibit the mean-spiritedness
of fascist Giuliani, he cannot be unaware of Giuliani's true nature. The
mere fact that he fails to distance himself from Giuliani, and embraces him
in mutual support, indicates that Bloomberg is morally no better. This is
also obvious in Bloomberg's blatant disregard for the will of the people and
the democratic process in his sabotage of term limits so he could run for
mayor again.

I suspect that Bloomberg would also have told us "the air is safe to
breathe," thus, as Giuliani did, sacrificing many lives to the RepubliKKKan
God of wealth and power. I consider it likely that Giuliani was in on the
9/11 conspiracy. I wondered at the time why he ordered the police to not
allow photographs to be taken near ground zero - an order violating
citizens' rights was par for the course with Giuliani, but why this one?
Simply because those in the know would want to minimize any evidence of a
conspiracy from materializing, and photos showing red-hot or molten iron
would be just that - evidence of the use of demolition explosives to
collapse the buildings.

What disease has affected the minds of Americans, that they sheepishly
tolerate and suffer under such malevolence as Giuliani's, and now
Bloomberg's?

Alas, as the "Founding Fathers" have told us, people

will not wake up to the need to "question authority" until
it is all but impossible to do so. They will follow
blindly softly repeating to themselves "this doesn't concern
me", until it finally does concern them! By which time
they are in such pitiful condition, having suffered abuse
after abuse until they can finally bear it no longer, that
they can only hope to rectify their situation with
unbrideled rage! Having lost every chance to peacefully
force change by degrees, thus preserving the good while
carefully winnowing the bad, they wait until they can stand
it no longer, then tear everything down in a mindless fit
of blood letting anger. History has recorded this time and
time again, yet no one pays it any attention, at least not
until it is over and done.
 
Freedom Man...
Posted: Fri Oct 16, 2009 12:38 pm
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"Obwon" <Obwon at (no spam) real.com> wrote in message
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Quote:
On Thu, 15 Oct 2009 14:30:47 -0400, "Freedom Man"
liberty at (no spam) once.net> wrote:

"Obwon" <Obwon at (no spam) real.com> wrote in message
news:9ju8d5hvkh1rhijb7qipnm1ga47j9sh99i at (no spam) 4ax.com...

snip

Bloomberg has finally found the straw that broke the camels
back for me. He's having Ghouliani campaign for him! The
same man who doomed our uniformed first responders and
others, civilians, residents and volunteers to horrible
cardio-pulminary diseased slow deaths, by deciding that it
was more important to get the stock market back opened,
quickly, than it was to protect all these lives.

The official pronouncement, "The air is safe to breath"
may seem pretty darned innocuous to the lay person, but to
those who know better it is dreadful if not made correctly.
This is because that official pronouncement, determines
what protocols are active or deactive on site. So, if they
say the air is safe and it isn't, you are not entitled to
the protocols that are designed to safeguard your health in
a hazardous environment. So, if the air was declared
unsafe, for example, everyone at ground zero would have
been required to observe rules and protocols designed to
protect from the effects of bad or dangerous
air/contaminants. You automatically are required to wear
breathing equipment, masks, and are allowed to work for
certain prescribed periods of time in the area.

Without a declaration that the air is unsafe, you are not
only denied such protections, but if you bring your own
masks etc., you will be told that you shouldn't wear it
because you're scaring others. Keep it up and you'll be
removed from the job/area, in the officially sanctioned
effort to "ease the minds" of your fellow workers.

Obviously such needed restrictions would slow the recovery
effort, taking much more time for the stock market to
re-open, because they'd be thereby advised to wait for the
all clear before returning to work.

The Ghoul disregarded the needs and safety of his own
fellow official first responders, as well as the lives of
the citizentry and volunteers who had access to the area.
Depriving them of the official support needed to protect
themselves from the hazardous air. He doomed them to
horrible deaths, when as mayor, he could have simply
differed with the WH and since it was his turf, he could
have protected them all. No, he kissed up because he
wanted his main man Kerik appointed to lead Homeland
Security, police and firemens lives be damned. And
Bloomberg is now "breaking bread" with this man. The very
man whom he acknowledged administered from a racist
perspective! He might just as well have picked David Duke
for a running mate! Can anyone now be sure that he would
not?

--------------------
Well said, Obwon!

While Billionaire Bloomberg does not outwardly exhibit the
mean-spiritedness
of fascist Giuliani, he cannot be unaware of Giuliani's true nature. The
mere fact that he fails to distance himself from Giuliani, and embraces
him
in mutual support, indicates that Bloomberg is morally no better. This is
also obvious in Bloomberg's blatant disregard for the will of the people
and
the democratic process in his sabotage of term limits so he could run for
mayor again.

I suspect that Bloomberg would also have told us "the air is safe to
breathe," thus, as Giuliani did, sacrificing many lives to the
RepubliKKKan
God of wealth and power. I consider it likely that Giuliani was in on the
9/11 conspiracy. I wondered at the time why he ordered the police to not
allow photographs to be taken near ground zero - an order violating
citizens' rights was par for the course with Giuliani, but why this one?
Simply because those in the know would want to minimize any evidence of a
conspiracy from materializing, and photos showing red-hot or molten iron
would be just that - evidence of the use of demolition explosives to
collapse the buildings.

What disease has affected the minds of Americans, that they sheepishly
tolerate and suffer under such malevolence as Giuliani's, and now
Bloomberg's?

Alas, as the "Founding Fathers" have told us, people
will not wake up to the need to "question authority" until
it is all but impossible to do so. They will follow
blindly softly repeating to themselves "this doesn't concern
me", until it finally does concern them! By which time
they are in such pitiful condition, having suffered abuse
after abuse until they can finally bear it no longer, that
they can only hope to rectify their situation with
unbrideled rage! Having lost every chance to peacefully
force change by degrees, thus preserving the good while
carefully winnowing the bad, they wait until they can stand
it no longer, then tear everything down in a mindless fit
of blood letting anger. History has recorded this time and
time again, yet no one pays it any attention, at least not
until it is over and done.

How tragically true.
No wonder the fascists have established detention facilities, concentration
camps if you will, to deal with the revolution if and when it comes. Lets
hope that any such revolutionary patriots are smart, disciplined, and have
friends in high places!
 
Obwon...
Posted: Sat Oct 17, 2009 1:27 pm
Guest
On Fri, 16 Oct 2009 14:38:35 -0400, "Freedom Man"
<liberty at (no spam) once.net> wrote:

Quote:
"Obwon" <Obwon at (no spam) real.com> wrote in message
news:p1tgd556v91350jo45r9j6sjvbdvfeq1hm at (no spam) 4ax.com...
On Thu, 15 Oct 2009 14:30:47 -0400, "Freedom Man"
liberty at (no spam) once.net> wrote:

"Obwon" <Obwon at (no spam) real.com> wrote in message
news:9ju8d5hvkh1rhijb7qipnm1ga47j9sh99i at (no spam) 4ax.com...

snip

Bloomberg has finally found the straw that broke the camels
back for me. He's having Ghouliani campaign for him! The
same man who doomed our uniformed first responders and
others, civilians, residents and volunteers to horrible
cardio-pulminary diseased slow deaths, by deciding that it
was more important to get the stock market back opened,
quickly, than it was to protect all these lives.

The official pronouncement, "The air is safe to breath"
may seem pretty darned innocuous to the lay person, but to
those who know better it is dreadful if not made correctly.
This is because that official pronouncement, determines
what protocols are active or deactive on site. So, if they
say the air is safe and it isn't, you are not entitled to
the protocols that are designed to safeguard your health in
a hazardous environment. So, if the air was declared
unsafe, for example, everyone at ground zero would have
been required to observe rules and protocols designed to
protect from the effects of bad or dangerous
air/contaminants. You automatically are required to wear
breathing equipment, masks, and are allowed to work for
certain prescribed periods of time in the area.

Without a declaration that the air is unsafe, you are not
only denied such protections, but if you bring your own
masks etc., you will be told that you shouldn't wear it
because you're scaring others. Keep it up and you'll be
removed from the job/area, in the officially sanctioned
effort to "ease the minds" of your fellow workers.

Obviously such needed restrictions would slow the recovery
effort, taking much more time for the stock market to
re-open, because they'd be thereby advised to wait for the
all clear before returning to work.

The Ghoul disregarded the needs and safety of his own
fellow official first responders, as well as the lives of
the citizentry and volunteers who had access to the area.
Depriving them of the official support needed to protect
themselves from the hazardous air. He doomed them to
horrible deaths, when as mayor, he could have simply
differed with the WH and since it was his turf, he could
have protected them all. No, he kissed up because he
wanted his main man Kerik appointed to lead Homeland
Security, police and firemens lives be damned. And
Bloomberg is now "breaking bread" with this man. The very
man whom he acknowledged administered from a racist
perspective! He might just as well have picked David Duke
for a running mate! Can anyone now be sure that he would
not?

--------------------
Well said, Obwon!

While Billionaire Bloomberg does not outwardly exhibit the
mean-spiritedness
of fascist Giuliani, he cannot be unaware of Giuliani's true nature. The
mere fact that he fails to distance himself from Giuliani, and embraces
him
in mutual support, indicates that Bloomberg is morally no better. This is
also obvious in Bloomberg's blatant disregard for the will of the people
and
the democratic process in his sabotage of term limits so he could run for
mayor again.

I suspect that Bloomberg would also have told us "the air is safe to
breathe," thus, as Giuliani did, sacrificing many lives to the
RepubliKKKan
God of wealth and power. I consider it likely that Giuliani was in on the
9/11 conspiracy. I wondered at the time why he ordered the police to not
allow photographs to be taken near ground zero - an order violating
citizens' rights was par for the course with Giuliani, but why this one?
Simply because those in the know would want to minimize any evidence of a
conspiracy from materializing, and photos showing red-hot or molten iron
would be just that - evidence of the use of demolition explosives to
collapse the buildings.

What disease has affected the minds of Americans, that they sheepishly
tolerate and suffer under such malevolence as Giuliani's, and now
Bloomberg's?

Alas, as the "Founding Fathers" have told us, people
will not wake up to the need to "question authority" until
it is all but impossible to do so. They will follow
blindly softly repeating to themselves "this doesn't concern
me", until it finally does concern them! By which time
they are in such pitiful condition, having suffered abuse
after abuse until they can finally bear it no longer, that
they can only hope to rectify their situation with
unbrideled rage! Having lost every chance to peacefully
force change by degrees, thus preserving the good while
carefully winnowing the bad, they wait until they can stand
it no longer, then tear everything down in a mindless fit
of blood letting anger. History has recorded this time and
time again, yet no one pays it any attention, at least not
until it is over and done.

How tragically true.
No wonder the fascists have established detention facilities, concentration
camps if you will, to deal with the revolution if and when it comes. Lets
hope that any such revolutionary patriots are smart, disciplined, and have
friends in high places!


The time to revolt is now, while it can be done
peacefully at the polls! Or be fooled into thinking that
the bigots, racists and other looney nere do wells, like
Bush, Ghouliani and their fellow travelers, will somehow
not do harm to yourself! The people of Germany voted and
their public officials all said "hey, even if he's an
idiot without a clue, what harm can he do me?" Some even
wallowed in the "glorious" idea of being "free" of the Jews,
not seeing how by progression they could be next! If you
turn your back on your fellow Americans, if you turn your
back on the peoples of the world, you very foolishly turn
your back on your very own self. The very irresistable
forces you send forward on others, will eventually turn to
consume you!

So the choice is clear, either fight now in the voting
booth, or be forced to fight later in the streets! Identify
the bigots, the cronies, the fascists, the loonies with
simplistic solutions and vote against them, vote them out no
matter what the offer! For, given the power of authority
they will strip you of your rights to resist them peacefully
while they ply any danged fools missions they fancy.
 
Freedom Man...
Posted: Sun Oct 18, 2009 9:04 am
Guest
"Obwon" <Obwon at (no spam) real.com> wrote in message
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Quote:
On Fri, 16 Oct 2009 14:38:35 -0400, "Freedom Man"
liberty at (no spam) once.net> wrote:

"Obwon" <Obwon at (no spam) real.com> wrote in message
news:p1tgd556v91350jo45r9j6sjvbdvfeq1hm at (no spam) 4ax.com...
On Thu, 15 Oct 2009 14:30:47 -0400, "Freedom Man"
liberty at (no spam) once.net> wrote:

"Obwon" <Obwon at (no spam) real.com> wrote in message
news:9ju8d5hvkh1rhijb7qipnm1ga47j9sh99i at (no spam) 4ax.com...

snip

Bloomberg has finally found the straw that broke the camels
back for me. He's having Ghouliani campaign for him! The
same man who doomed our uniformed first responders and
others, civilians, residents and volunteers to horrible
cardio-pulminary diseased slow deaths, by deciding that it
was more important to get the stock market back opened,
quickly, than it was to protect all these lives.

The official pronouncement, "The air is safe to breath"
may seem pretty darned innocuous to the lay person, but to
those who know better it is dreadful if not made correctly.
This is because that official pronouncement, determines
what protocols are active or deactive on site. So, if they
say the air is safe and it isn't, you are not entitled to
the protocols that are designed to safeguard your health in
a hazardous environment. So, if the air was declared
unsafe, for example, everyone at ground zero would have
been required to observe rules and protocols designed to
protect from the effects of bad or dangerous
air/contaminants. You automatically are required to wear
breathing equipment, masks, and are allowed to work for
certain prescribed periods of time in the area.

Without a declaration that the air is unsafe, you are not
only denied such protections, but if you bring your own
masks etc., you will be told that you shouldn't wear it
because you're scaring others. Keep it up and you'll be
removed from the job/area, in the officially sanctioned
effort to "ease the minds" of your fellow workers.

Obviously such needed restrictions would slow the recovery
effort, taking much more time for the stock market to
re-open, because they'd be thereby advised to wait for the
all clear before returning to work.

The Ghoul disregarded the needs and safety of his own
fellow official first responders, as well as the lives of
the citizentry and volunteers who had access to the area.
Depriving them of the official support needed to protect
themselves from the hazardous air. He doomed them to
horrible deaths, when as mayor, he could have simply
differed with the WH and since it was his turf, he could
have protected them all. No, he kissed up because he
wanted his main man Kerik appointed to lead Homeland
Security, police and firemens lives be damned. And
Bloomberg is now "breaking bread" with this man. The very
man whom he acknowledged administered from a racist
perspective! He might just as well have picked David Duke
for a running mate! Can anyone now be sure that he would
not?

--------------------
Well said, Obwon!

While Billionaire Bloomberg does not outwardly exhibit the
mean-spiritedness
of fascist Giuliani, he cannot be unaware of Giuliani's true nature. The
mere fact that he fails to distance himself from Giuliani, and embraces
him
in mutual support, indicates that Bloomberg is morally no better. This
is
also obvious in Bloomberg's blatant disregard for the will of the people
and
the democratic process in his sabotage of term limits so he could run
for
mayor again.

I suspect that Bloomberg would also have told us "the air is safe to
breathe," thus, as Giuliani did, sacrificing many lives to the
RepubliKKKan
God of wealth and power. I consider it likely that Giuliani was in on
the
9/11 conspiracy. I wondered at the time why he ordered the police to not
allow photographs to be taken near ground zero - an order violating
citizens' rights was par for the course with Giuliani, but why this one?
Simply because those in the know would want to minimize any evidence of
a
conspiracy from materializing, and photos showing red-hot or molten iron
would be just that - evidence of the use of demolition explosives to
collapse the buildings.

What disease has affected the minds of Americans, that they sheepishly
tolerate and suffer under such malevolence as Giuliani's, and now
Bloomberg's?

Alas, as the "Founding Fathers" have told us, people
will not wake up to the need to "question authority" until
it is all but impossible to do so. They will follow
blindly softly repeating to themselves "this doesn't concern
me", until it finally does concern them! By which time
they are in such pitiful condition, having suffered abuse
after abuse until they can finally bear it no longer, that
they can only hope to rectify their situation with
unbrideled rage! Having lost every chance to peacefully
force change by degrees, thus preserving the good while
carefully winnowing the bad, they wait until they can stand
it no longer, then tear everything down in a mindless fit
of blood letting anger. History has recorded this time and
time again, yet no one pays it any attention, at least not
until it is over and done.

How tragically true.
No wonder the fascists have established detention facilities,
concentration
camps if you will, to deal with the revolution if and when it comes. Lets
hope that any such revolutionary patriots are smart, disciplined, and have
friends in high places!


The time to revolt is now, while it can be done
peacefully at the polls! Or be fooled into thinking that
the bigots, racists and other looney nere do wells, like
Bush, Ghouliani and their fellow travelers, will somehow
not do harm to yourself! The people of Germany voted and
their public officials all said "hey, even if he's an
idiot without a clue, what harm can he do me?" Some even
wallowed in the "glorious" idea of being "free" of the Jews,
not seeing how by progression they could be next! If you
turn your back on your fellow Americans, if you turn your
back on the peoples of the world, you very foolishly turn
your back on your very own self. The very irresistable
forces you send forward on others, will eventually turn to
consume you!

So the choice is clear, either fight now in the voting
booth, or be forced to fight later in the streets! Identify
the bigots, the cronies, the fascists, the loonies with
simplistic solutions and vote against them, vote them out no
matter what the offer! For, given the power of authority
they will strip you of your rights to resist them peacefully
while they ply any danged fools missions they fancy.

Well said!
 
 
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