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| Freedom Man... |
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"Phil" <dogglebe at (no spam) yahoooo.com> wrote in message
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Quote: On Tue, 13 Oct 2009 15:33:15 -0400, "Freedom Man" <liberty at (no spam) once.net
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"Phil" <dogglebe at (no spam) yahoooo.com> wrote in message
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On Mon, 12 Oct 2009 13:40:18 -0700 (PDT), MACK DADDY
pepsivanilla at (no spam) msn.com> wrote:
FUCK RICH PEOPLE! EACH AND EVERY MUDDAFUGGIN ONE OF THEM! RICH
PEOPLE ARE GREEDY RAT BASTARDS!
Fuck yeah! They don't deserve to keep the money they worked for!
Some rich people earned their wealth ethically, or inherited it. I would
not
condemn people solely because they are rich. The ruling elite rich however
are mostly white-collar criminals, far worse in their destructive power
than
the lowest street scum.
Whether they earned it themselves, or inherited it, it's their money.
I agree with the above.
Quote: And the white collar criminal comment is just you painting with broad
strokes.
Yes; the ultra-rich ruling class are all honorable, altruistic, innocent
victims of the dangerous commies that want to steal their money.
BWAHAHAHAHA! |
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| Freedom Man... |
| Posted: Wed Oct 14, 2009 10:01 am |
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"Phil" <dogglebe at (no spam) yahoooo.com> wrote in message
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Quote: On Tue, 13 Oct 2009 21:36:40 -0700 (PDT), MACK DADDY
pepsivanilla at (no spam) msn.com> wrote:
Whether they earned it themselves, or inherited it, it's their money.
And the white collar criminal comment is just you painting with broad
strokes.
NO! There are alot of white collar criminals, breaking or
circumventing laws and stepping on other people to make a quick buck.
That's not ethical, you fascist!
There are a lot of blue collar criminals and street hoods
circumventing laws and stepping on other people to make a quick buck.
Is this ethical?
Of course not. But is it acceptable that the ruling class has established a
police-state approach to the lower level criminals, but has left their
white-collar crooks free to run amuck robbing the middle and working
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| Phil... |
| Posted: Wed Oct 14, 2009 10:55 am |
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On Wed, 14 Oct 2009 12:01:49 -0400, "Freedom Man" <liberty at (no spam) once.net>
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Quote: "Phil" <dogglebe at (no spam) yahoooo.com> wrote in message
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On Tue, 13 Oct 2009 21:36:40 -0700 (PDT), MACK DADDY
pepsivanilla at (no spam) msn.com> wrote:
Whether they earned it themselves, or inherited it, it's their money.
And the white collar criminal comment is just you painting with broad
strokes.
NO! There are alot of white collar criminals, breaking or
circumventing laws and stepping on other people to make a quick buck.
That's not ethical, you fascist!
There are a lot of blue collar criminals and street hoods
circumventing laws and stepping on other people to make a quick buck.
Is this ethical?
Of course not. But is it acceptable that the ruling class has established a
police-state approach to the lower level criminals, but has left their
white-collar crooks free to run amuck robbing the middle and working
classes?
Bernie Madoff will be happy to hear that.
Phil |
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| Phil... |
| Posted: Wed Oct 14, 2009 10:56 am |
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On Wed, 14 Oct 2009 11:59:36 -0400, "Freedom Man" <liberty at (no spam) once.net>
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Quote:
And the white collar criminal comment is just you painting with broad
strokes.
Yes; the ultra-rich ruling class are all honorable, altruistic, innocent
victims of the dangerous commies that want to steal their money.
BWAHAHAHAHA!
Now you're painting with broad stroke in the other direction. There's
good and bad everywhere you look.
Phil |
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| MACK DADDY... |
| Posted: Wed Oct 14, 2009 4:14 pm |
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On Oct 14, 3:20 pm, Phil <doggl... at (no spam) yahoooo.com> wrote:
Quote: On Wed, 14 Oct 2009 12:27:37 -0700 (PDT), MACK DADDY
pepsivani... at (no spam) msn.com> wrote:
On Oct 13, 9:55 pm, Phil <doggl... at (no spam) yahoooo.com> wrote:
On Tue, 13 Oct 2009 21:35:10 -0700 (PDT), MACK DADDY
pepsivani... at (no spam) msn.com> wrote:
I work for my money. Greedy Corporate RatBastards do NOT work for
theirs!
Business owners work to keep their businesses afloat. Plus, it's
their investments that keep you employed. Sorry if you don't think
so.
Maybe you should quit your job. THat'll teach your boss a lesson..
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That doesn't even make sense. What are you smokin'?
It doesn't make sense to you, maybe...
If you don't like your boss making money off of your work, then quit
your job. It's an easy solution.
Phil
Maybe for you because you are smokin' crack!
Sounds like you're projecting.
If you don't like the fact that your boss is making money off of you,
then quit your job. It's that simple. Don't let him make money off
of you.
I'm sure your bos will suffer greatly with your absence.
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You need to wipe that big-ass brown spot off your nose, eh! |
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| Phil... |
| Posted: Wed Oct 14, 2009 4:20 pm |
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On Wed, 14 Oct 2009 12:27:37 -0700 (PDT), MACK DADDY
<pepsivanilla at (no spam) msn.com> wrote:
Quote: On Oct 13, 9:55 pm, Phil <doggl... at (no spam) yahoooo.com> wrote:
On Tue, 13 Oct 2009 21:35:10 -0700 (PDT), MACK DADDY
pepsivani... at (no spam) msn.com> wrote:
I work for my money. Greedy Corporate RatBastards do NOT work for
theirs!
Business owners work to keep their businesses afloat. Plus, it's
their investments that keep you employed. Sorry if you don't think
so.
Maybe you should quit your job. THat'll teach your boss a lesson.
Phil- Hide quoted text -
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That doesn't even make sense. What are you smokin'?
It doesn't make sense to you, maybe...
If you don't like your boss making money off of your work, then quit
your job. It's an easy solution.
Phil
Maybe for you because you are smokin' crack!
Sounds like you're projecting.
If you don't like the fact that your boss is making money off of you,
then quit your job. It's that simple. Don't let him make money off
of you.
I'm sure your bos will suffer greatly with your absence.
Phil |
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| Phil... |
| Posted: Thu Oct 15, 2009 8:34 am |
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On Wed, 14 Oct 2009 19:14:08 -0700 (PDT), MACK DADDY
<pepsivanilla at (no spam) msn.com> wrote:
Quote:
If you don't like the fact that your boss is making money off of you,
then quit your job. It's that simple. Don't let him make money off
of you.
I'm sure your bos will suffer greatly with your absence.
You need to wipe that big-ass brown spot off your nose, eh!
Who am I brown-nosing?
If all you can contribute to this conversation is immature insults,
this conversation is over.
Phil |
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| Freedom Man... |
| Posted: Thu Oct 15, 2009 12:04 pm |
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"Phil" <dogglebe at (no spam) yahoooo.com> wrote in message
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Quote: On Wed, 14 Oct 2009 12:01:49 -0400, "Freedom Man" <liberty at (no spam) once.net
wrote:
"Phil" <dogglebe at (no spam) yahoooo.com> wrote in message
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On Tue, 13 Oct 2009 21:36:40 -0700 (PDT), MACK DADDY
pepsivanilla at (no spam) msn.com> wrote:
Whether they earned it themselves, or inherited it, it's their money.
And the white collar criminal comment is just you painting with broad
strokes.
NO! There are alot of white collar criminals, breaking or
circumventing laws and stepping on other people to make a quick buck.
That's not ethical, you fascist!
There are a lot of blue collar criminals and street hoods
circumventing laws and stepping on other people to make a quick buck.
Is this ethical?
Of course not. But is it acceptable that the ruling class has established
a
police-state approach to the lower level criminals, but has left their
white-collar crooks free to run amuck robbing the middle and working
classes?
Bernie Madoff will be happy to hear that.
Madoff robbed from the RICH. The likes of Bloomberg and Ghouliani will only
look the other way when they and their elite bretheren are not victimized.
Giuliani Partners makes a fortune DEFENDING criminals like Madoff.
White-collar criminals that don't push their scams too far, and prey mostly
on the middle class, usually get away with them. |
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| Freedom Man... |
| Posted: Thu Oct 15, 2009 12:06 pm |
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"Phil" <dogglebe at (no spam) yahoooo.com> wrote in message
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Quote: On Wed, 14 Oct 2009 11:59:36 -0400, "Freedom Man" <liberty at (no spam) once.net
wrote:
And the white collar criminal comment is just you painting with broad
strokes.
Yes; the ultra-rich ruling class are all honorable, altruistic, innocent
victims of the dangerous commies that want to steal their money.
BWAHAHAHAHA!
Now you're painting with broad stroke in the other direction. There's
good and bad everywhere you look.
No, it's not painting, it's SATIRE. |
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| Phil... |
| Posted: Thu Oct 15, 2009 3:55 pm |
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On Thu, 15 Oct 2009 14:04:40 -0400, "Freedom Man" <liberty at (no spam) once.net>
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Quote: Madoff robbed from the RICH. The likes of Bloomberg and Ghouliani will only
look the other way when they and their elite bretheren are not victimized.
Giuliani Partners makes a fortune DEFENDING criminals like Madoff.
White-collar criminals that don't push their scams too far, and prey mostly
on the middle class, usually get away with them.
Madoff robbed from the poor, too. Numerous municipalities lost their
pensions because of him. Firefighters, police officers, etc.
And everyone is entitled to legal representation, even criminals.
Trying to villify Giuliani for this only shows your hatred for him.
Phil |
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| Phil... |
| Posted: Thu Oct 15, 2009 3:57 pm |
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On Thu, 15 Oct 2009 14:06:11 -0400, "Freedom Man" <liberty at (no spam) once.net>
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Quote: "Phil" <dogglebe at (no spam) yahoooo.com> wrote in message
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On Wed, 14 Oct 2009 11:59:36 -0400, "Freedom Man" <liberty at (no spam) once.net
wrote:
And the white collar criminal comment is just you painting with broad
strokes.
Yes; the ultra-rich ruling class are all honorable, altruistic, innocent
victims of the dangerous commies that want to steal their money.
BWAHAHAHAHA!
Now you're painting with broad stroke in the other direction. There's
good and bad everywhere you look.
No, it's not painting, it's SATIRE.
It's not satire; it's economic bigotry on your part.
Phil |
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| Obwon... |
| Posted: Fri Oct 16, 2009 7:15 am |
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On Thu, 15 Oct 2009 14:04:40 -0400, "Freedom Man"
<liberty at (no spam) once.net> wrote:
Quote: "Phil" <dogglebe at (no spam) yahoooo.com> wrote in message
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On Wed, 14 Oct 2009 12:01:49 -0400, "Freedom Man" <liberty at (no spam) once.net
wrote:
"Phil" <dogglebe at (no spam) yahoooo.com> wrote in message
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On Tue, 13 Oct 2009 21:36:40 -0700 (PDT), MACK DADDY
pepsivanilla at (no spam) msn.com> wrote:
Whether they earned it themselves, or inherited it, it's their money.
And the white collar criminal comment is just you painting with broad
strokes.
Obviously the obvious needs to be stated. No one is
complaining about those who have earned their money by
creating and/or selling products to people who can use them.
When one talks about "white collar criminals" they are not
even talking about criminals per se. Many of the people who
are being talked about, are those who by dint of
legislative shennanigans are managing to keep, what would
otherwise be criminal activity, legal for themselves to
engage in. Example is Pataki's legislative change to the
public utilities laws, that gives them the right to keep
overbilling charges that the consumer doesn't catch within
12 months. Meaning that if they over bill you -- charge you
for service never performed and/or goods never supplied --
and you pay that bill, you have 12 months to get your money
back or they get to keep it.
The methods of utility billing are not simple, evidence
that there are professionals who offer services to do just
that for you. Thusly, before Pataki's law change, if you
hired one, and they found a small error accumulated over
time, there would likely be enough of a recovery to make
paying for the professional worthwhile. Not now, since a 2
dollar error could only be recovered for the last 12 months,
even though it may have been occuring for decades.
But that's small potatoes compared to some of the
legislative changes that big businesses have gotten. That
allow them to make money at the expense of the public.
The "Unnecessary Wars" that Bush engaged, allowed many
business suppliers of war materials and services to profit
immensely at the expense of public treasure and lives! The
wars were not justifiable, but you can bet that the profits
were, at least some of them. There were also a lot of
profits made by overbilling, billing for services not
rendered, supplies never delivered, accounting "errors"
(always in the companies favor, never in favor of the gov't
as the word "errors" suggests). Not to mention falsified
billing and false billing practices like having subsidiaries
and suppliers inflate their bills, collect from the gov't
and then pass kickbacks along the supply chain.
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NO! There are alot of white collar criminals, breaking or
circumventing laws and stepping on other people to make a quick buck.
That's not ethical, you fascist!
Yes, like the simple expiedent of calling "insurance"
policies "swaps", that allowed businesses to sell insurance
without any requirement to show that they actually had the
money they needed to settle claims. Just to give one
example. Just imagine how easy it would be to make money,
if you could simply go through your own neighborhood and
sell all kinds of insurance, fire, theft, auto etc.,
collect all the premiums you could, but then file for
bankruptcy the moment someone puts in a claim. But that's
exactly what banks were allowed to do, that crashed the
economy and threw millions of people out of their homes and
their jobs.
Quote: There are a lot of blue collar criminals and street hoods
circumventing laws and stepping on other people to make a quick buck.
Is this ethical?
Of course not. But is it acceptable that the ruling class has established
a
police-state approach to the lower level criminals, but has left their
white-collar crooks free to run amuck robbing the middle and working
classes?
Bernie Madoff will be happy to hear that.
In the permissive atmosphere of the Bush adm., where the
regulators went to sleep at the wheel, Madoff had a pretty
darned good run, eh? Sure, he was at it for 2 decades,
but he didn't ramp up until Bush was elected, go figure!
Quote: Madoff robbed from the RICH. The likes of Bloomberg and Ghouliani will only
look the other way when they and their elite bretheren are not victimized.
Giuliani Partners makes a fortune DEFENDING criminals like Madoff.
White-collar criminals that don't push their scams too far, and prey mostly
on the middle class, usually get away with them.
Generally a society sharply divided into rich and poor
makes for a very poor economy. Don't look for any
sustainable recovery until we get regulatory authorities
with real teeth back up and operating. |
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| MACK DADDY... |
| Posted: Fri Oct 16, 2009 8:38 am |
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On Oct 15, 7:34 am, Phil <doggl... at (no spam) yahoooo.com> wrote:
Quote: On Wed, 14 Oct 2009 19:14:08 -0700 (PDT), MACK DADDY
pepsivani... at (no spam) msn.com> wrote:
If you don't like the fact that your boss is making money off of you,
then quit your job. It's that simple. Don't let him make money off
of you.
I'm sure your bos will suffer greatly with your absence.
You need to wipe that big-ass brown spot off your nose, eh!
Who am I brown-nosing?
If all you can contribute to this conversation is immature insults,
this conversation is over.
Phil
You are brown-nosing corporate america. |
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| Hayes Barnerd... |
| Posted: Sat Oct 17, 2009 5:02 am |
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| He is kissing corporate fascist ass! |
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| Freedom Man... |
| Posted: Sat Oct 17, 2009 1:12 pm |
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"Phil" <dogglebe at (no spam) yahoooo.com> wrote in message
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Quote: On Thu, 15 Oct 2009 14:06:11 -0400, "Freedom Man" <liberty at (no spam) once.net
wrote:
"Phil" <dogglebe at (no spam) yahoooo.com> wrote in message
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On Wed, 14 Oct 2009 11:59:36 -0400, "Freedom Man" <liberty at (no spam) once.net
wrote:
And the white collar criminal comment is just you painting with broad
strokes.
Yes; the ultra-rich ruling class are all honorable, altruistic, innocent
victims of the dangerous commies that want to steal their money.
BWAHAHAHAHA!
Now you're painting with broad stroke in the other direction. There's
good and bad everywhere you look.
No, it's not painting, it's SATIRE.
It's not satire; it's economic bigotry on your part.
It is not bigotry to criticize the hypocrisy of the rich in condemning
criminality among the poor.
Many of the rich are simply criminals, or the descendents of criminals that
evaded apprehension.
Not everyone gets caught like Madoff did. |
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