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| bringyagrogalong... |
Posted: Tue Sep 29, 2009 10:49 pm |
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German military deaths on the Eastern Front 1941-1945: 5,178,000
German military deaths on the Western Front 1939-1945: 367,000
A no-brainer, isn’t it?
Let's at least be honest and admit that the Allied contribution was a
bit of a joke. A sideshow, nothing more! |
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| Mustapha Allah... |
Posted: Wed Sep 30, 2009 1:30 am |
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On 30 Sep, 09:49, bringyagrogalong <sof... at (no spam) aapt.net.au> wrote:
Quote: German military deaths on the Eastern Front 1941-1945: 5,178,000
German military deaths on the Western Front 1939-1945: 367,000
A no-brainer, isn’t it?
Let's at least be honest and admit that the Allied contribution was a
bit of a joke. A sideshow, nothing more!
Germany and Japan won WW2 because America supplied them with new
machinery, Britain was left with old machines. Churchill smashed up
colossus giving away computer industry to USA also we gave away
inventions like Radar, catapult on aircraft vessels and landing
mirrors etc |
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| kangarooistan... |
Posted: Wed Sep 30, 2009 2:11 am |
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On Sep 30, 5:49 pm, bringyagrogalong <sof... at (no spam) aapt.net.au> wrote:
Quote: German military deaths on the Eastern Front 1941-1945: 5,178,000
German military deaths on the Western Front 1939-1945: 367,000
A no-brainer, isn’t it?
Let's at least be honest and admit that the Allied contribution was a
bit of a joke. A sideshow, nothing more!
WW1 has not finished yet mate ,not until Palestine is FREE can WW1
end , it will last another few decades until every western taxpayer
has been totally bankrupted for israel
Only then can Muslims finally restore PALESTINE to its lawful owners
EXACTLY like in the first Crusades , it takes about 200 years to bleed
the west to death and they can simply no longer wage WAR in Muslim
countries
Every western country will continue support for Israeli occupation
until all money has been wasted , and Israel wiped off the maps
EXACTLY like last time and the time before that
jews are very slow learners
western taxpayers are suicidal fools
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crusades
kanga
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| bringyagrogalong... |
Posted: Wed Sep 30, 2009 2:20 am |
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E. Barry Bruyea <termlim... at (no spam) democracy.com> wrote:
Quote: bringyagrogalong <sof... at (no spam) aapt.net.au> wrote:
German military deaths on the Eastern Front 1941-1945: 5,178,000
German military deaths on the Western Front 1939-1945: 367,000
A no-brainer, isn’t it?
Let's at least be honest and admit that the Allied contribution was a
bit of a joke. A sideshow, nothing more!
A ridiculous contention and one that has been discounted by historical
fact, not idiocy on the part of historical revisionists.
And what hysterical fact was that?
Come-on don't be shy.
Any idiot can stand there and say, "yup, it went over the plate, all
right."
You've got to hit the ball, Barry, you've got to back your shit up! |
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| Archie... |
Posted: Wed Sep 30, 2009 2:47 am |
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On Sep 30, 4:49 am, bringyagrogalong <sof... at (no spam) aapt.net.au> wrote:
Quote: German military deaths on the Eastern Front 1941-1945: 5,178,000
German military deaths on the Western Front 1939-1945: 367,000
A no-brainer, isn’t it?
Let's at least be honest and admit that the Allied contribution was a
bit of a joke. A sideshow, nothing more!
I think it is a no brainer.
The West was watching two enemies destroy each other. In 1944 the jig
was up. Time to move in.
You can't really blame them can you?
What would be the logic of going in earlier than they did? |
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| bringyagrogalong... |
Posted: Wed Sep 30, 2009 3:24 am |
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Duncan Patton a Campbell <campb... at (no spam) neotext.ca> wrote:
Quote: Krudd the Dud wrote:
bringyagrogalong <sof... at (no spam) aapt.net.au> wrote:
Let's at least be honest and admit that the Allied contribution was a
bit of a joke. A sideshow, nothing more!
What exactly are you trying to say, you Hitler wannabe?
That Hitler didn't have the boats (or balls) to invade
England, let alone America, so he had to sate himself
with murdering his neighbors and his own.
He could have finished Britain off quite easily, after all, he made
the BEF turn tail and run for home in less than two weeks.
Hitler's mistake was his eagerness to attack Russia in fear that it
would attack Germany first.
Quote: Fact is the SU _might_ have handled the NAZIs alone,
without lend-lease, Anzio or Normandy. But that entirely
discounts the Empire of Japan which was dealt with
by the Anglo part of the Alliance.
What! "the Empire of Japan was dealt with by the Anglo part of the
Alliance"?
Whoaa! The Yanks might take issue with you over that. LOL
Quote: A two-front war would have been just as deadly to the SU as it was to the NAZIs.
Firstly, the Nazis were virtually destroyed by the time the second
front was opened.
Secondly, the Japanese would have been very reticent to take on the
Russians again after their defeat in Manchuria in 1939....
"It may be said to be the first decisive battle of World War II,
because it determined that the two principal Axis Powers, Germany and
Japan, would never geographically link up their areas of control
through Russia. The defeat convinced the Imperial General Staff in
Tokyo that the policy of the North Strike Group, favoured by the army,
which wanted to seize Siberia as far as Lake Baikal for its resources,
was untenable." |
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| E. Barry Bruyea... |
Posted: Wed Sep 30, 2009 4:24 am |
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On Wed, 30 Sep 2009 01:49:35 -0700 (PDT), bringyagrogalong
<sofala at (no spam) aapt.net.au> wrote:
Quote: German military deaths on the Eastern Front 1941-1945: 5,178,000
German military deaths on the Western Front 1939-1945: 367,000
A no-brainer, isn’t it?
Let's at least be honest and admit that the Allied contribution was a
bit of a joke. A sideshow, nothing more!
A ridiculous contention and one that has been discounted by historical
fact, not idiocy on the part of historical revisionists. |
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| Krudd the Dud... |
Posted: Wed Sep 30, 2009 4:49 am |
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On Wed, 30 Sep 2009 01:49:35 -0700 (PDT), bringyagrogalong
<sofala at (no spam) aapt.net.au> wrote:
Quote: Let's at least be honest and admit that the Allied contribution was a
bit of a joke. A sideshow, nothing more!
What exactly are you trying to say, you Hitler wannabe? |
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| Duncan Patton a Campbell... |
Posted: Wed Sep 30, 2009 5:16 am |
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On Wed, 30 Sep 2009 20:49:23 +1000, Krudd the Dud wrote:
Quote: On Wed, 30 Sep 2009 01:49:35 -0700 (PDT), bringyagrogalong
sofala at (no spam) aapt.net.au> wrote:
Let's at least be honest and admit that the Allied contribution was a
bit of a joke. A sideshow, nothing more!
What exactly are you trying to say, you Hitler wannabe?
That Hitler didn't have the boats (or balls) to invade
England, let alone America, so he had to sate himself
with murdering his neighbors and his own.
Fact is the SU _might_ have handled the NAZIs alone,
without lend-lease, Anzio or Normandy. But that entirely
discounts the Empire of Japan which was dealt with
by the Anglo part of the Alliance. A two-front war
would have been just as deadly to the SU as it was
to the NAZIs.
Dhu
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Duncan Patton a Campbell is Dhu |
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| Krudd the Dud... |
Posted: Wed Sep 30, 2009 6:31 am |
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On Wed, 30 Sep 2009 05:20:56 -0700 (PDT), bringyagrogalong
<sofala at (no spam) aapt.net.au> wrote:
Quote: You've got to hit the ball, Barry, you've got to back your shit up!
Just like you "back your shit up"?
Which of course you never do, you bludging parasite. |
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| E. Barry Bruyea... |
Posted: Wed Sep 30, 2009 6:51 am |
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On Wed, 30 Sep 2009 05:20:56 -0700 (PDT), bringyagrogalong
<sofala at (no spam) aapt.net.au> wrote:
Quote: E. Barry Bruyea <termlim... at (no spam) democracy.com> wrote:
bringyagrogalong <sof... at (no spam) aapt.net.au> wrote:
German military deaths on the Eastern Front 1941-1945: 5,178,000
German military deaths on the Western Front 1939-1945: 367,000
A no-brainer, isn’t it?
Let's at least be honest and admit that the Allied contribution was a
bit of a joke. A sideshow, nothing more!
A ridiculous contention and one that has been discounted by historical
fact, not idiocy on the part of historical revisionists.
And what hysterical fact was that?
Come-on don't be shy.
Any idiot can stand there and say, "yup, it went over the plate, all
right."
You've got to hit the ball, Barry, you've got to back your shit up!
I don't have to back anything up and given you didn't provide one iota
of fact in your post, you got a hell of a lot of nerve asking anyone
else to provide 'back up'. Even more so when you consider it is
obvious that you have not studied history at all. |
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| E. Barry Bruyea... |
Posted: Wed Sep 30, 2009 6:54 am |
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On Wed, 30 Sep 2009 05:11:15 -0700 (PDT), kangarooistan
<kangarooistan9 at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:
Quote: On Sep 30, 5:49 pm, bringyagrogalong <sof... at (no spam) aapt.net.au> wrote:
German military deaths on the Eastern Front 1941-1945: 5,178,000
German military deaths on the Western Front 1939-1945: 367,000
A no-brainer, isn’t it?
Let's at least be honest and admit that the Allied contribution was a
bit of a joke. A sideshow, nothing more!
WW1 has not finished yet mate ,not until Palestine is FREE can WW1
end , it will last another few decades until every western taxpayer
has been totally bankrupted for israel
Only then can Muslims finally restore PALESTINE to its lawful owners
EXACTLY like in the first Crusades , it takes about 200 years to bleed
the west to death and they can simply no longer wage WAR in Muslim
countries
Every western country will continue support for Israeli occupation
until all money has been wasted , and Israel wiped off the maps
EXACTLY like last time and the time before that
jews are very slow learners
western taxpayers are suicidal fools
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crusades
kanga
You might want to get your wars straight before you ramble on with
such nonsense. |
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| Duncan Patton a Campbell... |
Posted: Wed Sep 30, 2009 8:31 am |
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On Wed, 30 Sep 2009 06:24:22 -0700, bringyagrogalong wrote:
Quote: Duncan Patton a Campbell <campb... at (no spam) neotext.ca> wrote:
Krudd the Dud wrote:
bringyagrogalong <sof... at (no spam) aapt.net.au> wrote:
Let's at least be honest and admit that the Allied contribution was
a bit of a joke. A sideshow, nothing more!
What exactly are you trying to say, you Hitler wannabe?
That Hitler didn't have the boats (or balls) to invade England, let
alone America, so he had to sate himself with murdering his neighbors
and his own.
He could have finished Britain off quite easily, after all, he made the
BEF turn tail and run for home in less than two weeks.
Yes, yes. Still, the Tiger tanks could only ford about 3 metres deep
before it was "tata 2u". The channel is 40 miles of tank ditch.
Quote: Hitler's mistake was his eagerness to attack Russia in fear that it
would attack Germany first.
Hitler's mistake was his racial policy. That and bein' born.
Quote: Fact is the SU _might_ have handled the NAZIs alone, without
lend-lease, Anzio or Normandy. Â But that entirely discounts the Empire
of Japan which was  dealt with by the Anglo part of the Alliance.
What! "the Empire of Japan was dealt with by the Anglo part of the
Alliance"?
Anglos=="English Speaking". Listing them all can get tedious.
Quote:
Whoaa! The Yanks might take issue with you over that. LOL
A two-front war would have been just as deadly to the SU as it was to
the NAZIs.
Firstly, the Nazis were virtually destroyed by the time the second front
was opened.
That was the third front. The second was the Pacific. Which kept
Japan off Russia's back (yes, Stalin had a non-aggression pact with
them as well... how much do you pay for toilet paper?)
Quote: Secondly, the Japanese would have been very reticent to take on the
Russians again after their defeat in Manchuria in 1939....
At a place called Kalkin Gul, I believe.
Zhukov's first command battle. There
were earlier conflicts as well (mid '30s).
Not like they were fighting anyone else at the time, ya know.
And the Red army was a little short on officers in '39.
Quote: "It may be said to be the first decisive battle of World War II, because
it determined that the two principal Axis Powers, Germany and Japan,
would never geographically link up their areas of control through
Russia. The defeat convinced the Imperial General Staff in Tokyo that
the policy of the North Strike Group, favoured by the army, which wanted
to seize Siberia as far as Lake Baikal for its resources, was
untenable."
After Barbarossa?? You read too much without understanding. Without
the Anglos keepin' their back the Ruskies would have been toast. They
needed Sibir.
There is no doubt that the Red Army's contribution is vastly underplayed
in the West, but they could not have gone it alone. And the crying about
the Anglos stalling a western front to let the NAZIs trash Russia is
specious.
If Stalin hadn't murdered the RA's officer corp in '38 ... well, if
my Granny had a slot in her back I could use her as a Piggy-Bank.
Dhu
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| E. Barry Bruyea... |
Posted: Wed Sep 30, 2009 1:47 pm |
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On Wed, 30 Sep 2009 06:24:22 -0700 (PDT), bringyagrogalong
<sofala at (no spam) aapt.net.au> wrote:
Quote: Duncan Patton a Campbell <campb... at (no spam) neotext.ca> wrote:
Krudd the Dud wrote:
bringyagrogalong <sof... at (no spam) aapt.net.au> wrote:
Let's at least be honest and admit that the Allied contribution was a
bit of a joke. A sideshow, nothing more!
What exactly are you trying to say, you Hitler wannabe?
That Hitler didn't have the boats (or balls) to invade
England, let alone America, so he had to sate himself
with murdering his neighbors and his own.
He could have finished Britain off quite easily, after all, he made
the BEF turn tail and run for home in less than two weeks.
He wouldn't have if the French had the heart for a fight. They were
looking for a reason to give up, especially as the French had more
planes, more tanks and more men than the Germans.
Quote:
Hitler's mistake was his eagerness to attack Russia in fear that it
would attack Germany first.
Fact is the SU _might_ have handled the NAZIs alone,
without lend-lease, Anzio or Normandy. But that entirely
discounts the Empire of Japan which was dealt with
by the Anglo part of the Alliance.
What! "the Empire of Japan was dealt with by the Anglo part of the
Alliance"?
Whoaa! The Yanks might take issue with you over that. LOL
A two-front war would have been just as deadly to the SU as it was to the NAZIs.
Firstly, the Nazis were virtually destroyed by the time the second
front was opened.
Secondly, the Japanese would have been very reticent to take on the
Russians again after their defeat in Manchuria in 1939....
"It may be said to be the first decisive battle of World War II,
because it determined that the two principal Axis Powers, Germany and
Japan, would never geographically link up their areas of control
through Russia. The defeat convinced the Imperial General Staff in
Tokyo that the policy of the North Strike Group, favoured by the army,
which wanted to seize Siberia as far as Lake Baikal for its resources,
was untenable." |
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| ralph... |
Posted: Wed Sep 30, 2009 4:11 pm |
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On Wed, 30 Sep 2009 06:24:45 -0400, E. Barry Bruyea
<termlimits at (no spam) democracy.com> wrote:
Quote: On Wed, 30 Sep 2009 01:49:35 -0700 (PDT), bringyagrogalong
sofala at (no spam) aapt.net.au> wrote:
German military deaths on the Eastern Front 1941-1945: 5,178,000
German military deaths on the Western Front 1939-1945: 367,000
A no-brainer, isn’t it?
Let's at least be honest and admit that the Allied contribution was a
bit of a joke. A sideshow, nothing more!
A ridiculous contention and one that has been discounted by historical
fact, not idiocy on the part of historical revisionists.
The racist troll and liar Serge ("bringyagrogalong") posts the same
shite every so often to get some attention.
It's been doing this for years ... just pat it on its head and wait
for it to go back to sleep.
http://groups.google.com/group/aus.politics/msg/04d6eb79f8caf8bb?hl=en&dmode=source |
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