On Sep 17, 7:34�am, "\"Jack\"-" <TaxServ... at (no spam) aol.com> wrote:





On Sep 17, 9:38 am, Rubaiyat of Omar Bradley <cowartmi... at (no spam) yahoo.com
wrote:

On Sep 16, 12:09 am, "\"Jack\"-" <TaxServ... at (no spam) aol.com> wrote:

YOU LIE!!!! Now, prove us wrong and produce the proof of YOUR
TRUTH!!!!

OK - the $50k income tax exemption for seniors has been dropped from
the FY 2010 budget. See for yourself athttp://www.whitehouse.gov/omb/budget

The link is quite informative as to what the budget means for the
states!!! �However, I don't see any reference to the tax exemption for
seniors being "dropped from the FY2010 budget"??? � How could it be
cut, if it was never in there??? �The promise was made to seniors and
I expect the President will adhere to that promise at the first
opportunity. �Much hinges on the tax law changes which will not take
effect until near the end of this year or early next year. �There is
ALWAYS the possibility that the breaks will be retroactive!!=")

If you look at the best opportunity for the administration to have
instituted a tax cut to seniors, it would have been the ARRA. �That
bill contained a variety of tax breaks but none specifically for
seniors (except for the $250 one-time payment). �Worse, many of the
tax breaks in the stimulus were based on wage income or focused on
wage earners, something most seniors don't have.

It was the opportunity to make good on a promise but was overlooked.

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On Sep 17, 10:51 am, Allan <allan.san... at (no spam) yahoo.com> wrote:



On Sep 17, 7:34 am, "\"Jack\"-" <TaxServ... at (no spam) aol.com> wrote:

On Sep 17, 9:38 am, Rubaiyat of Omar Bradley <cowartmi... at (no spam) yahoo.com
wrote:

On Sep 16, 12:09 am, "\"Jack\"-" <TaxServ... at (no spam) aol.com> wrote:

YOU LIE!!!! Now, prove us wrong and produce the proof of YOUR
TRUTH!!!!

OK - the $50k income tax exemption for seniors has been dropped from
the FY 2010 budget. See for yourself athttp://www.whitehouse.gov/omb/budget

The link is quite informative as to what the budget means for the
states!!! However, I don't see any reference to the tax exemption for
seniors being "dropped from the FY2010 budget"??? How could it be
cut, if it was never in there??? The promise was made to seniors and
I expect the President will adhere to that promise at the first
opportunity. Much hinges on the tax law changes which will not take
effect until near the end of this year or early next year. There is
ALWAYS the possibility that the breaks will be retroactive!!=")

If you look at the best opportunity for the administration to have
instituted a tax cut to seniors, it would have been the ARRA. That
bill contained a variety of tax breaks but none specifically for
seniors (except for the $250 one-time payment). Worse, many of the
tax breaks in the stimulus were based on wage income or focused on
wage earners, something most seniors don't have.

It was the opportunity to make good on a promise but was overlooked.

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Allan, the $250 cut, given to seniors, did not diminish their rights
under the act.  

Seniors, veterans, etc. were given their due up
front.  

Employees had an increase in their paychecks.  They were not
left out because they had no employment.  As for other breaks in the
stimulus program, for the current year, seniors were given the same
consideration as all other taxpayers.

Here is the breakdown:

http://www.irs.gov/newsroom/article/0,,id=204335,00.html

On Sep 17, 8:50�am, "\"Jack\"-" <TaxServ... at (no spam) aol.com> wrote:





On Sep 17, 10:51 am, Allan <allan.san... at (no spam) yahoo.com> wrote:

On Sep 17, 7:34 am, "\"Jack\"-" <TaxServ... at (no spam) aol.com> wrote:

On Sep 17, 9:38 am, Rubaiyat of Omar Bradley <cowartmi... at (no spam) yahoo.com
wrote:

On Sep 16, 12:09 am, "\"Jack\"-" <TaxServ... at (no spam) aol.com> wrote:

YOU LIE!!!! Now, prove us wrong and produce the proof of YOUR
TRUTH!!!!

OK - the $50k income tax exemption for seniors has been dropped from
the FY 2010 budget. See for yourself athttp://www.whitehouse.gov/omb/budget

The link is quite informative as to what the budget means for the
states!!! However, I don't see any reference to the tax exemption for
seniors being "dropped from the FY2010 budget"??? How could it be
cut, if it was never in there??? The promise was made to seniors and
I expect the President will adhere to that promise at the first
opportunity. Much hinges on the tax law changes which will not take
effect until near the end of this year or early next year. There is
ALWAYS the possibility that the breaks will be retroactive!!=")

If you look at the best opportunity for the administration to have
instituted a tax cut to seniors, it would have been the ARRA. That
bill contained a variety of tax breaks but none specifically for
seniors (except for the $250 one-time payment). Worse, many of the
tax breaks in the stimulus were based on wage income or focused on
wage earners, something most seniors don't have.

It was the opportunity to make good on a promise but was overlooked.

allan- Hide quoted text -

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Allan, the $250 cut, given to seniors, did not diminish their rights
under the act. �

That wasn't my point - what was an opportunity to make good on a
campaign promise turned into a gratuitous "stimulus" of the elderly.

Seniors, veterans, etc. were given their due up
front. �

When Obama stood up during the campaign and said that no one would get
a tax increase if they made less than 250K and the elderly would not
pay taxes on the first 50K, certain expectations were raised.

Employees had an increase in their paychecks. �They were not
left out because they had no employment. �As for other breaks in the
stimulus program, for the current year, seniors were given the same
consideration as all other taxpayers.

Look at the list....the majority of benefits require wage income
(employment) and those that remain (first time home buyers, education
credits, child tax credits.....) are not likely to apply to the senior
set. �So what's left for the old folks? �Cash for clunkers (should
they be driving anyway?) and renewable energy?

Come on....it was easy enough to do what he promised and he didn't.

Here is the breakdown:

http://www.irs.gov/newsroom/article/0,,id=204335,00.html

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On Sep 17, 12:10 pm, Allan <allan.san... at (no spam) yahoo.com> wrote:



On Sep 17, 8:50 am, "\"Jack\"-" <TaxServ... at (no spam) aol.com> wrote:

On Sep 17, 10:51 am, Allan <allan.san... at (no spam) yahoo.com> wrote:

On Sep 17, 7:34 am, "\"Jack\"-" <TaxServ... at (no spam) aol.com> wrote:

On Sep 17, 9:38 am, Rubaiyat of Omar Bradley <cowartmi... at (no spam) yahoo.com
wrote:

On Sep 16, 12:09 am, "\"Jack\"-" <TaxServ... at (no spam) aol.com> wrote:

YOU LIE!!!! Now, prove us wrong and produce the proof of YOUR
TRUTH!!!!

OK - the $50k income tax exemption for seniors has been dropped from
the FY 2010 budget. See for yourself athttp://www.whitehouse.gov/omb/budget

The link is quite informative as to what the budget means for the
states!!! However, I don't see any reference to the tax exemption for
seniors being "dropped from the FY2010 budget"??? How could it be
cut, if it was never in there??? The promise was made to seniors and
I expect the President will adhere to that promise at the first
opportunity. Much hinges on the tax law changes which will not take
effect until near the end of this year or early next year. There is
ALWAYS the possibility that the breaks will be retroactive!!=")

If you look at the best opportunity for the administration to have
instituted a tax cut to seniors, it would have been the ARRA. That
bill contained a variety of tax breaks but none specifically for
seniors (except for the $250 one-time payment). Worse, many of the
tax breaks in the stimulus were based on wage income or focused on
wage earners, something most seniors don't have.

It was the opportunity to make good on a promise but was overlooked..

allan- Hide quoted text -

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Allan, the $250 cut, given to seniors, did not diminish their rights
under the act.

That wasn't my point - what was an opportunity to make good on a
campaign promise turned into a gratuitous "stimulus" of the elderly.

Seniors, veterans, etc. were given their due up
front.

When Obama stood up during the campaign and said that no one would get
a tax increase if they made less than 250K and the elderly would not
pay taxes on the first 50K, certain expectations were raised.

Employees had an increase in their paychecks. They were not
left out because they had no employment. As for other breaks in the
stimulus program, for the current year, seniors were given the same
consideration as all other taxpayers.

Look at the list....the majority of benefits require wage income
(employment) and those that remain (first time home buyers, education
credits, child tax credits.....) are not likely to apply to the senior
set. So what's left for the old folks? Cash for clunkers (should
they be driving anyway?) and renewable energy?

Come on....it was easy enough to do what he promised and he didn't.

Here is the breakdown:

http://www.irs.gov/newsroom/article/0,,id=204335,00.html

allan- Hide quoted text -

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What's your basis for saying it's "unlikely" that seniors will not
benefit from what the stimulus has to offer???  

The provisions will
benefit ALL those who qualify without prejudice.   As for the tax
break for seniors making under $50K, that has nothing to do with the
stimulus program.  It is a separate matter which is dealt with under
the tax code.  

The promise was made to seniors and
I expect the President will adhere to that promise at the first
opportunity.

On Sep 17, 11:07�am, "\"Jack\"-" <TaxServ... at (no spam) aol.com> wrote:





On Sep 17, 12:10 pm, Allan <allan.san... at (no spam) yahoo.com> wrote:

On Sep 17, 8:50 am, "\"Jack\"-" <TaxServ... at (no spam) aol.com> wrote:

On Sep 17, 10:51 am, Allan <allan.san... at (no spam) yahoo.com> wrote:

On Sep 17, 7:34 am, "\"Jack\"-" <TaxServ... at (no spam) aol.com> wrote:

On Sep 17, 9:38 am, Rubaiyat of Omar Bradley <cowartmi... at (no spam) yahoo..com
wrote:

On Sep 16, 12:09 am, "\"Jack\"-" <TaxServ... at (no spam) aol.com> wrote:

YOU LIE!!!! Now, prove us wrong and produce the proof of YOUR
TRUTH!!!!

OK - the $50k income tax exemption for seniors has been dropped from
the FY 2010 budget. See for yourself athttp://www.whitehouse.gov/omb/budget

The link is quite informative as to what the budget means for the
states!!! However, I don't see any reference to the tax exemption for
seniors being "dropped from the FY2010 budget"??? How could it be
cut, if it was never in there??? The promise was made to seniors and
I expect the President will adhere to that promise at the first
opportunity. Much hinges on the tax law changes which will not take
effect until near the end of this year or early next year. There is
ALWAYS the possibility that the breaks will be retroactive!!=")

If you look at the best opportunity for the administration to have
instituted a tax cut to seniors, it would have been the ARRA. That
bill contained a variety of tax breaks but none specifically for
seniors (except for the $250 one-time payment). Worse, many of the
tax breaks in the stimulus were based on wage income or focused on
wage earners, something most seniors don't have.

It was the opportunity to make good on a promise but was overlooked.

allan- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Allan, the $250 cut, given to seniors, did not diminish their rights
under the act.

That wasn't my point - what was an opportunity to make good on a
campaign promise turned into a gratuitous "stimulus" of the elderly.

Seniors, veterans, etc. were given their due up
front.

When Obama stood up during the campaign and said that no one would get
a tax increase if they made less than 250K and the elderly would not
pay taxes on the first 50K, certain expectations were raised.

Employees had an increase in their paychecks. They were not
left out because they had no employment. As for other breaks in the
stimulus program, for the current year, seniors were given the same
consideration as all other taxpayers.

Look at the list....the majority of benefits require wage income
(employment) and those that remain (first time home buyers, education
credits, child tax credits.....) are not likely to apply to the senior
set. So what's left for the old folks? Cash for clunkers (should
they be driving anyway?) and renewable energy?

Come on....it was easy enough to do what he promised and he didn't.

Here is the breakdown:

http://www.irs.gov/newsroom/article/0,,id=204335,00.html

allan- Hide quoted text -

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What's your basis for saying it's "unlikely" that seniors will not
benefit from what the stimulus has to offer??? �

No kids, no first time home buyers....no employment....didn't you read
the list?

The provisions will
benefit ALL those who qualify without prejudice. � As for the tax
break for seniors making under $50K, that has nothing to do with the
stimulus program. �It is a separate matter which is dealt with under
the tax code. �

There are three dozen tax law changes as part of ARRA - duh.

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I trust Obama as being this once greater nation's best hope for the
future.

On Sep 17, 4:00 pm, Allan <allan.san... at (no spam) yahoo.com> wrote:



On Sep 17, 11:07 am, "\"Jack\"-" <TaxServ... at (no spam) aol.com> wrote:

On Sep 17, 12:10 pm, Allan <allan.san... at (no spam) yahoo.com> wrote:

On Sep 17, 8:50 am, "\"Jack\"-" <TaxServ... at (no spam) aol.com> wrote:

On Sep 17, 10:51 am, Allan <allan.san... at (no spam) yahoo.com> wrote:

On Sep 17, 7:34 am, "\"Jack\"-" <TaxServ... at (no spam) aol.com> wrote:

On Sep 17, 9:38 am, Rubaiyat of Omar Bradley <cowartmi... at (no spam) yahoo.com
wrote:

On Sep 16, 12:09 am, "\"Jack\"-" <TaxServ... at (no spam) aol.com> wrote:

YOU LIE!!!! Now, prove us wrong and produce the proof of YOUR
TRUTH!!!!

OK - the $50k income tax exemption for seniors has been dropped from
the FY 2010 budget. See for yourself athttp://www.whitehouse.gov/omb/budget

The link is quite informative as to what the budget means for the
states!!! However, I don't see any reference to the tax exemption for
seniors being "dropped from the FY2010 budget"??? How could it be
cut, if it was never in there??? The promise was made to seniors and
I expect the President will adhere to that promise at the first
opportunity. Much hinges on the tax law changes which will not take
effect until near the end of this year or early next year. There is
ALWAYS the possibility that the breaks will be retroactive!!=")

If you look at the best opportunity for the administration to have
instituted a tax cut to seniors, it would have been the ARRA. That
bill contained a variety of tax breaks but none specifically for
seniors (except for the $250 one-time payment). Worse, many of the
tax breaks in the stimulus were based on wage income or focused on
wage earners, something most seniors don't have.

It was the opportunity to make good on a promise but was overlooked.

allan- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Allan, the $250 cut, given to seniors, did not diminish their rights
under the act.

That wasn't my point - what was an opportunity to make good on a
campaign promise turned into a gratuitous "stimulus" of the elderly..

Seniors, veterans, etc. were given their due up
front.

When Obama stood up during the campaign and said that no one would get
a tax increase if they made less than 250K and the elderly would not
pay taxes on the first 50K, certain expectations were raised.

Employees had an increase in their paychecks. They were not
left out because they had no employment. As for other breaks in the
stimulus program, for the current year, seniors were given the same
consideration as all other taxpayers.

Look at the list....the majority of benefits require wage income
(employment) and those that remain (first time home buyers, education
credits, child tax credits.....) are not likely to apply to the senior
set. So what's left for the old folks? Cash for clunkers (should
they be driving anyway?) and renewable energy?

Come on....it was easy enough to do what he promised and he didn't.

Here is the breakdown:

http://www.irs.gov/newsroom/article/0,,id=204335,00.html

allan- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

What's your basis for saying it's "unlikely" that seniors will not
benefit from what the stimulus has to offer???

No kids, no first time home buyers....no employment....didn't you read
the list?

The provisions will
benefit ALL those who qualify without prejudice. As for the tax
break for seniors making under $50K, that has nothing to do with the
stimulus program. It is a separate matter which is dealt with under
the tax code.

There are three dozen tax law changes as part of ARRA - duh.

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duh!!!  The stimulus program has NOTHING to do with the promise made
to seniors!!!  

It's senseless to poo poo that promise unless it is not
kept.

I trust Obama as being this once greater nation's best hope for the
future.  

Probably the only insightful thing that GWB said during his entire 8
years in office was when he described himself as "the decider". That
is what a POTUS has to do - decide, and decide correctly, the majority
of the time.

I said, there were three dozen tax code changes in ARRA. Why did the
President NOT take the opportunity to fulfill his promise to seniors
in the ARRA?