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| pbowles at (no spam) aol.com... |
 Posted: Thu Mar 19, 2009 6:36 am |
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On 19 Mar, 16:01, samson <nos... at (no spam) nospam.spam> wrote:
Quote: In article <vPadnUg_GMSp91_UnZ2dnUVZ_rjin... at (no spam) giganews.com>,
web... at (no spam) polaris.net says...> Dirk Benedict
I wonder if Mr. Benedict will ever realize that the
"lovable rogue" stereotype wears thin quickly, maybe
even before it's remade, and that the new BSG is so
much better than the old one?
s
It does seem a little sad that he takes so much pride in the fact that
"the best he could do" was to play the same cardboard stereotype in
two shows, and for that matter a stereotype that was already past its
sell-by date in the late 1970s.
I can see where he's coming from in complaining that the new show
isn't as happy and hopeful as its original incarnation, but to me
that's a flaw in the original series' execution - a story about a
"ragtag fleet" of refugees who are the last survivors of a holocaust
*shouldn't* be about "hope" and "family", where the greatest source of
tension is wondering when Cassopeia will find out about Starbuck's
latest womanising.
Phil |
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| efeatherston... |
| Posted: Thu Mar 19, 2009 6:59 am |
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If he thinks the current Battlestar sits well with the suits, I want
to know what world he lives in. If this had been on regular network
instead of cable, it never would have made it past the suits. |
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| samson... |
| Posted: Thu Mar 19, 2009 11:01 am |
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In article <vPadnUg_GMSp91_UnZ2dnUVZ_rjinZ2d at (no spam) giganews.com>,
weberm at (no spam) polaris.net says...> Dirk Benedict
I wonder if Mr. Benedict will ever realize that the
"lovable rogue" stereotype wears thin quickly, maybe
even before it's remade, and that the new BSG is so
much better than the old one?
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| David Johnston... |
| Posted: Thu Mar 19, 2009 11:36 am |
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Dirk Benedict appears to regard women with a certain amount of
hostility. |
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| Posted: Thu Mar 19, 2009 3:13 pm |
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On Mar 19, 2:37 pm, b... at (no spam) templetons.com (Brad Templeton) wrote:
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It's a shame he burned his bridges like this, though, for it is even
possible to have enjoyed both shows, something that the GINO crowd
doesn't accept very well. He could have pleased the fans with an
appearance, as Hatch did, possibly even as a loveable rogue, if he
wanted to.
Why would he? - Like Dwight Schultz, Benedict has washed his hands of
Hollyweird.
Considering how much crap product they put out now, especially on the
movie end (though, if the All New! NEW!! BSG is in any way indicative
of future TV trends, TV will be heading the same way...), I can hardly
blame the sane people like Benedict and Schultz for telling Hollyweird
to "Shove it!" |
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| Brad Templeton... |
| Posted: Thu Mar 19, 2009 4:37 pm |
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While this is an old piece, I always found it rather revisionist.
Benedict's lovable rogue was hardly his invention, nor do I suspect that
the suits, who funded the show based on the popularity of Star Wars,
were particularly opposed to it, though they might not have liked
certain tweaks of the character he did.
Benedict is right that the new show took the theme in an entirely
different direction. Back then when he wrote this, it was not as clear
how much critical judgement would say it was the far better direction.
Of course a few still disagree with that, and argument won't resolve it.
It's a shame he burned his bridges like this, though, for it is even
possible to have enjoyed both shows, something that the GINO crowd
doesn't accept very well. He could have pleased the fans with an
appearance, as Hatch did, possibly even as a loveable rogue, if he
wanted to.
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| Alric Knebel... |
| Posted: Fri Mar 20, 2009 12:56 am |
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iball at (no spam) san.rr.com wrote:
Quote: On Mar 19, 2:37 pm, b... at (no spam) templetons.com (Brad Templeton) wrote:
It's a shame he burned his bridges like this, though, for it is even
possible to have enjoyed both shows, something that the GINO crowd
doesn't accept very well. He could have pleased the fans with an
appearance, as Hatch did, possibly even as a loveable rogue, if he
wanted to.
Why would he? - Like Dwight Schultz, Benedict has washed his hands of
Hollyweird.
Considering how much crap product they put out now, especially on the
movie end (though, if the All New! NEW!! BSG is in any way indicative
of future TV trends, TV will be heading the same way...), I can hardly
blame the sane people like Benedict and Schultz for telling Hollyweird
to "Shove it!"
I found that people who use the word "Hollyweird" -- from some idiotic
talk-show pie hole -- are generally stupid people who quit thinking a
long time ago.
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| Posted: Fri Mar 20, 2009 2:48 am |
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On Mar 19, 10:56 pm, Alric Knebel <al... at (no spam) cableone.net> wrote:
Quote: ib... at (no spam) san.rr.com wrote:
On Mar 19, 2:37 pm, b... at (no spam) templetons.com (Brad Templeton) wrote:
It's a shame he burned his bridges like this, though, for it is even
possible to have enjoyed both shows, something that the GINO crowd
doesn't accept very well. He could have pleased the fans with an
appearance, as Hatch did, possibly even as a loveable rogue, if he
wanted to.
Why would he? - Like Dwight Schultz, Benedict has washed his hands of
Hollyweird.
Considering how much crap product they put out now, especially on the
movie end (though, if the All New! NEW!! BSG is in any way indicative
of future TV trends, TV will be heading the same way...), I can hardly
blame the sane people like Benedict and Schultz for telling Hollyweird
to "Shove it!"
I found that people who use the word "Hollyweird" -- from some idiotic
talk-show pie hole -- are generally stupid people who quit thinking a
long time ago.
I'm sorry, who are you again?... |
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| Alric Knebel... |
| Posted: Fri Mar 20, 2009 2:41 pm |
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iball at (no spam) san.rr.com wrote:
Quote: On Mar 19, 10:56 pm, Alric Knebel <al... at (no spam) cableone.net> wrote:
ib... at (no spam) san.rr.com wrote:
On Mar 19, 2:37 pm, b... at (no spam) templetons.com (Brad Templeton) wrote:
It's a shame he burned his bridges like this, though, for it is even
possible to have enjoyed both shows, something that the GINO crowd
doesn't accept very well. He could have pleased the fans with an
appearance, as Hatch did, possibly even as a loveable rogue, if he
wanted to.
Why would he? - Like Dwight Schultz, Benedict has washed his hands of
Hollyweird.
Considering how much crap product they put out now, especially on the
movie end (though, if the All New! NEW!! BSG is in any way indicative
of future TV trends, TV will be heading the same way...), I can hardly
blame the sane people like Benedict and Schultz for telling Hollyweird
to "Shove it!"
I found that people who use the word "Hollyweird" -- from some idiotic
talk-show pie hole -- are generally stupid people who quit thinking a
long time ago.
I'm sorry, who are you again?...
That YOU don't know me is supposed to indicate what?...
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| PV... |
| Posted: Fri Mar 20, 2009 3:06 pm |
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Shelbe Smyth <nun at (no spam) ya.biz> writes:
Quote: You're still posting with an alias. If 'PV' is your initials, what do
they stand for?
They stand for the first and last parts of my name, as I've signed posts on
the net for the last 22 years.
Quote: The others are correct. You are nothing but a loudmouthed troll. Into
the filters you go.
Bye! *
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* PV something like badgers--something like lizards--and something
like corkscrews. |
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| Shelbe Smyth... |
| Posted: Fri Mar 20, 2009 3:09 pm |
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On Fri, 20 Mar 2009 15:06:30 -0500, pv+usenet at (no spam) pobox.com (PV) wrote:
Quote: They stand for the first and last parts of my name, as I've signed posts on
the net for the last 22 years.
You're not signing them now, so that doesn't count, and you're a
troll. |
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| PV... |
| Posted: Fri Mar 20, 2009 3:56 pm |
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Shelbe Smyth <nun at (no spam) ya.biz> writes:
Quote: They stand for the first and last parts of my name, as I've signed posts on
the net for the last 22 years.
You're not signing them now, so that doesn't count, and you're a
troll.
Quite an effective killfile you have there, sparky. *
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* PV something like badgers--something like lizards--and something
like corkscrews. |
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| OM... |
| Posted: Fri Mar 20, 2009 7:14 pm |
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On Fri, 20 Mar 2009 16:59:08 -0600, Beowulf Bolt
<abd.al-hazred at (no spam) shaw.ca> wrote:
Quote: Only someone ignorant about 'PV's' posting history would be leveling
this charge against him.
....Most of us could care not one iota what his posting history is on
other groups. The fact that he's acting like a total misanthrope with
delusions of intelligence on alt.battlestar.galactica is all that
matters. If he's behaving on other groups, then fine. Let him continue
to post on those groups while we've killfiled him here.
OM
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| Rob Jensen... |
| Posted: Fri Mar 20, 2009 11:42 pm |
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On Thu, 19 Mar 2009 13:06:33 -0400, EGK <me at (no spam) privacy.net> wrote:
Quote: The original Starbuck was meant to emulate Han Solo, after all.
You seem incapable of recognizing (much less appreciating) the irony
in your statement regarding the unmitigated fact that Star Wars was an
homage to Flash Gordon.
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| EGK... |
| Posted: Fri Mar 20, 2009 11:52 pm |
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On Fri, 20 Mar 2009 23:42:10 -0500, Rob Jensen <ShutUpRob at (no spam) aol.com> wrote:
Quote: On Thu, 19 Mar 2009 13:06:33 -0400, EGK <me at (no spam) privacy.net> wrote:
The original Starbuck was meant to emulate Han Solo, after all.
You seem incapable of recognizing (much less appreciating) the irony
in your statement regarding the unmitigated fact that Star Wars was an
homage to Flash Gordon.
Condescending much, Rob? I made no mention of Flash Gordon for the simple
reason that Starbuck was meant to emulate Han Solo in particular. Battlestar
Galactica was created to piggyback on the success of Star Wars in
particular. The character itself was nothing original as I mentioned (and
you snipped). He was meant to be an anti-hero as was Han Solo. They were
both meant to be likeable rogues. Nothing new about that. |
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