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| Phantom... |
 Posted: Sat Sep 05, 2009 4:21 pm |
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they already have monkee slot machines a friend of mine sent me a photo
of one im trying to find it to post |
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| Jazz4Jeff... |
| Posted: Sat Sep 05, 2009 4:21 pm |
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| Posted: Sat Sep 05, 2009 5:29 pm |
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Quote: Here they are in Atlantic City. I wonder why they did not license the
real music?
One possibility: Screen Gems-EMI Music gave permission for Monkee
songs to be played on the slot machine but Rhino didn't give
permission for the actual recordings to be used. Hence, ersatz Monkee
recordings. Hopefully, the guys are receiving some sort of
compensation for their likenesses being used. I rather imagine it
would not go over well with Davy if he and the others are not being
fairly compensated for use of their images. |
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| Posted: Sat Sep 05, 2009 5:33 pm |
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Quote: That is too cool. I read somewhere that they were all set to do the real
thing, with Nesmith being the
"leader" of the crusade, and Davy backed out. Years ago. But I'd love to
even play this one!
Me too! I haven't been to the casinos in a while but may check them
out to see if the Monkees slot machines are available at the local
casinos. Maybe the Monkees slot machines would be nicer to me than the
Jeannie slot machines? |
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| Jan... |
| Posted: Sat Sep 05, 2009 6:10 pm |
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"Jazz4Jeff" <JAZZ4JEFF at (no spam) aol.com> wrote in message
news:36da8b46-229a-4879-81c9-dda4416d6b01 at (no spam) v37g2000prg.googlegroups.com...
That is too cool. I read somewhere that they were all set to do the real
thing, with Nesmith being the
"leader" of the crusade, and Davy backed out. Years ago. But I'd love to
even play this one!
Jan |
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| JanB... |
| Posted: Tue Sep 08, 2009 4:19 pm |
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<catgod29 at (no spam) aol.com> wrote in message
news:3179d3b5-4f3a-4820-b45b-d0f3f1f13fec at (no spam) t13g2000yqn.googlegroups.com...
Quote: Here they are in Atlantic City. I wonder why they did not license the
real music?
One possibility: Screen Gems-EMI Music gave permission for Monkee
songs to be played on the slot machine but Rhino didn't give
permission for the actual recordings to be used. Hence, ersatz Monkee
recordings. Hopefully, the guys are receiving some sort of
compensation for their likenesses being used. I rather imagine it
would not go over well with Davy if he and the others are not being
fairly compensated for use of their images.
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But...the logo is there. Would they give permission for the logo and not the
music?
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| Posted: Tue Sep 08, 2009 5:20 pm |
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Quote: I'd take that bet since I seriously doubt it myself. (logo & images)
May be the case if they used the original recordings however, which would be
good reason not to I guess.
There is precedence in the law on the use of an actor's or band's
image or name when it involves promotional side deals in which the
party or parties is involved in an indirect manner . Back in the 50s,
Hal Roach Studios were entering into marketing agreements with
companies for the use of the names and images of Stan Laurel and
Oliver Hardy. The only trouble was, the studio hadn't bothered
obtaining permission from Stan Laurel or the estate of Oliver Hardy.
Hal Roach Studio asserted that since they had put Laurel and Hardy
together, they owned their names and images for promotional purposes.
The court disagreed, ruling that Laurel and Hardy were born with their
names (although, actually, for Stan, the name Laurel was a stage name
-- his birth name was Jefferson) and their faces and as such, Hal
Roach Studios had no claim to their names or images.
Flash forward to the 70s when the "Star Trek" craze was at a fever
pitch, and you had Paramount in conjunction with a publisher issuing
"Star Trek" books bearing the likenesses of the original actors from
the series. I believe that William Shatner and Leonard Nimoy both sued
Paramount over not being compensated for the use of their likenesses,
but a settlement was reached with both actors. I'm not sure if there
were deals made with the other ST actors for the use of their images,
but it would've been simple for Paramount to have simply told the
publisher to have drawn the characters without relying on the images
of the actors. But, since the ST franchise was tied as much to
Shatner, Nimoy and company as to the studio, their images helped sell
tons of books.
So, my bet would be on the Monkees and Rhino receiving some sort of
royalties from the money poured into the slots. How much of a royalty,
I don't know but their pay out is sure to be better than those playing
the slots!  |
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| TonyP... |
| Posted: Tue Sep 08, 2009 7:34 pm |
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<catgod29 at (no spam) aol.com> wrote in message
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Quote: However, another thought that came to mind is that perhaps the slot
machines manufacturers and casinos didn't want to pony up some extra
bucks for actual Monkee recordings.
Would seem most likely.
Quote: I'm pretty sure the Monkees logo
and the images of the Monkees probably don't come cheap and gambler
that I am, I'd bet the Monkees and Rhino are given a percentage of the
slot machine profits in addition to whatever up front money they may
have been given.
I'd take that bet since I seriously doubt it myself. (logo & images)
May be the case if they used the original recordings however, which would be
good reason not to I guess.
TonyP. |
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| TonyP... |
| Posted: Wed Sep 09, 2009 12:01 am |
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<catgod29 at (no spam) aol.com> wrote in message
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Quote: So, my bet would be on the Monkees and Rhino receiving some sort of
royalties from the money poured into the slots. How much of a royalty,
I don't know but their pay out is sure to be better than those playing
the slots!
Which is what I dispute, not that money changes hands, just that it is a
fixed percentage of money put into the slots. Would involve far more
accounting, and be even more difficult to keep track of for the artists than
normal record mechanicals, and there is enough rorting going on with those
already!
TonyP. |
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| Posted: Wed Sep 09, 2009 6:04 pm |
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Quote: You still seem to miss the fact that I said they obviously get MONEY.
HOW and when it is paid is another matter though.
No, I didn't miss your fact but was rather clumsily trying to explain
how the accounting might work. Didn't come off too well, I admit.
Blame that on my editing and rewriting. |
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