On Oct 9, 3:05 pm, Bill <video... at (no spam) aol.com> wrote:

On Oct 8, 9:48 pm, DT <dtyle... at (no spam) yahoo.com> wrote:
Henry, I certainly want to hear your impressions. But boots, reviews,
and YouTube videos are a poor predictor of the live "Yes" experience.
I do hope your mileage varies from mine, but I am highly doubtful.

I did like the show, highlights (new songs) and weaknesses alike.
Thrilled to meet the band.
The only "weak" Yes Shows I have experienced were the Big Generator
tour (it seemed kind of flat... maybe the sound and my seats) and one
Open Your Eyes show in Connecticut (again, perhaps seating - because I
saw the same tour in New Brunswick and loved it).

I've loved most Yes shows I've seen, with Masterworks a personal high.

On Oct 7, 7:27 pm, paul <redmooncreat... at (no spam) xtra.co.nz> wrote:

And if Jon dosn't want to do it or will
only do it for a disproportionate share of the payday or is too sick
to do it ....no Yes?

right...but just because there's no Yes, doesn't mean there can't be a
HSW...and it doesn't mean that any number of people who have been in
Yes can't perform Yes music in a live setting.

Clearly you and I differ on one key point, I think it important to
market accurately any and all products and services and for those
products or services to maintain quality consistent with how they've
been represented in that marketing.  You find it acceptable for people
to operate "well within their rights", while engaging in quietly
deceptive marketing and providing sub-quality product and services.

On Oct 9, 6:10 pm, paul <redmooncreat... at (no spam) xtra.co.nz> wrote:





On Oct 9, 4:23 am, "robm... at (no spam) aol.com" <robm... at (no spam) aol.com> wrote:

On Oct 7, 7:27 pm, paul <redmooncreat... at (no spam) xtra.co.nz> wrote:
And if Jon dosn't want to do it or will
only do it for a disproportionate share of the payday or is too sick
to do it ....no Yes?

right...but just because there's no Yes, doesn't mean there can't be a
HSW...and it doesn't mean that any number of people who have been in
Yes can't perform Yes music in a live setting.

Clearly you and I differ on one key point, I think it important to
market accurately any and all products and services and for those
products or services to maintain quality consistent with how they've
been represented in that marketing. You find it acceptable for people
to operate "well within their rights", while engaging in quietly
deceptive marketing and providing sub-quality product and services.

Preposterous. You seem very fond of re-writing things to suit your own
prejudice don't you Rob.

on the contrary, I'm fond of making accurate observations and accept
well when _facts_ stack up against my preferences.

IF you can't accept that HSW, as 60% of Classic Yes, are "well within
their rights" to hire whoever THEY wish for two vacant roles within
the band then you are delusional in your thinking.

again, I find that assertion funny *every* time.

 _Of course_ they are
"WWTR", which as I point up above, is sufficient for _you_.  For me,
that they have the right to do something despicable, discourteous and
dishonest, doesn't make it suddenly acceptable.  That they have the
right to trash the brand and show themselves as desperate and
pathetic, is certainly interesting enough, but not I could supprt.  I
think they should hold themselves to higher standard...but if they
won't, they can't expect to have the support of at least this long-
time customer.

I know...who gives a fuck.

Oh sorry...they didn't ask your opinion. Boo hoo. Big "mistake".

you are easily one of the more passionate fence-sitters I've ever
encountered.  It's almost as if you aren't fence-sitting at all.

You persist in this rubbish about them damaging a brand.

see, what I mean?  I know where I stand on this and feel quite
comfortable in that position.  You like to call yourself a fence-
sitter, but show yourself otherwise.

I suppose one could draw a parallel between that behavior and this
tribute "Yes".  Say one thing and then do quite a lot different.  What
"Yes" is doing fits squarely within your value system, indeed it's
what you would do in a similar situation.

Maybe you're so lost in the glory of the past that you can't see any other
possibilities other than the endless recycling of that past glory.
Look where THAT got them.

this is becoming surreal, Paul.  I've stated clearly that I want new
music.  

They've already done a few too many nostaglia tours for my
money,

and now they're doing another with, cheap imitators in key
spots.  WTF, "you're so lost"...certainly you didn't manage a straight
face, while writing that bit.

To me, what HSW are doing is writing another strand in Yes' history.

lol...well they are doing that, aren't they.

Its different, its unexpected and its provoked debate. Thats a pretty
good start. If you don't like it who gives a poo?

I like how you wonder about "who gives".  Who gives a fuck about what
Wakeman thinks, who gives a poo about what I like...WTF, who gives a
poo about who gives a poo?  I don't know, but judging by reaction at
hand, it seems likely that a fence-sitter might "give a poo"...or a
least a lengthy, passionate lot of pissing and spitting.

I'd suggest that you "shut your gob" too but I know that's not likely to happen

given that I'm "well within my rights" to run an open gob, one should
think I'd have your enthusiastic support, even if offered from
somewhere atop a fence.

We are each entitled to our opinions. . One of the purposes of a newsgroup
such as this, right?

Given that Magnification was their last release and Yes in concert has since
been relegated to repeatedly mixing up their back catalogue of material, my
interest in seeing more of the same was already on the wane.

Certain performers are intrinsic; they define a group and forever change the
dynamic when they're absent. Much like the thought of the Who without either
Daltry or Townsend �or �The Stones minus either Mick or Keith, for instance
- - for ME - - it's not Yes without Jon. He's the heart and soul of Yes and
I couldn't ignore his exclusion.

Were I much younger and had I not already seen Yes in concert many, many
times over the breadth of their career I might feel quite differently than I
do now.

I'm sure the current lineup sounds fine, but it has to be more than
competency for me to stay involved.

'd rather listen to the CD versions
than pretend it doesn't matter whether or not Anderson is present.

On Oct 5, 1:46 pm, TheTimeTrave... at (no spam) webtv.net (Chet) wrote:

DROP DEAD YOU GODDAMNED SON OF A BITCH.  GO EAT YOUR GODDAMNED POISON
MUSHROOMS WHY DON'T YA YOU FILTHY MINDED FUCKED UP MORON.

On Oct 6, 10:50?am, TheTimeTrave... at (no spam) webtv.net (Chet) wrote:
What kind of moron would walk out on the current show after paying for a
ticket? ?