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tom_w_b at (no spam) juno.com...
Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2009 2:44 pm
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On Oct 5, 5:51 am, Wyrd <Wyr... at (no spam) hotmail.co.uk> wrote:

Quote:
  I've never denied RiB as being great.

It was an example, it had nothing to do with whether you liked it or
not.

But it is an album I kept listening to for years and years. True,
of recent time (last year or so) I haven't listened to it much.

Quote:
  I do listen to stuff from the 60's/70's/80's at least occasionally.
Matter of fact one of the albums that's been getting a lot of plays
the past month or so is Kansas-Masque, (1975).

Again it has nothing to do with what you are listening to at the
moment.  Just the opposite in fact.  It's albums from past that you
don't play that often but you still know they are great.

You have just proved my point, it's all about the flavour of the
month.

So, Kansas-Masque is a flavor of the month?

Quote:
  True enough, but after a passage of time, somethings just don't mean
so much to me anymore. There is always the burn out of albums played a
lot of times.

Maybe you shouldn't OD on a particular album while it is in its "good"
phase.  Rather pace yourself and mix things up a bit, or a lot
dependent on the amount of CD's you can listen to.

Maybe I should. But that would be going against the way I've always
listened to music. I always obsess over a set number of albums, until
something can crowbar me away from them. I do also mix in other albums
from whenever time they were released.

Quote:
anymore. There are many 10 year old albums I liked alot, and still do.
I just don't often play them anymore.

You just need to expand that to 30/40 year old albums (I go back to
the 30's for some of blues).  Just listening to flavour of the month
albums would be tedious for me.  I need new and old stuff.

E.
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The only stuff from 30 or 40 years ago I like is Black Sabbath, Led
Zeppelin, Deep Purple, Blue Oyster Cult. I also like some other hard
rock bands from the 70's up until about 1984. After that I didn't
listen to the radio much, I listened to albums I'd buy and whatever
tapes other friends would have.
It might seem like it's only "flavor of the month" from some posts
I've made. It's not the total reality. Usually I find most people
don't seem to want to talk about older albums, so I just don't mention
them.

Tom
 
tom_w_b at (no spam) juno.com...
Posted: Tue Oct 06, 2009 1:31 pm
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On Oct 6, 1:29 am, Wyrd <Wyr... at (no spam) hotmail.co.uk> wrote:

Quote:
   But it is an album I kept listening to for years and years. True,
of recent time (last year or so) I haven't listened to it much.

So is it a good album?  Will it still be a good album if you don't
listen to it for a year or maybe two?

It's my all time favorite thrash album.

Quote:
  So, Kansas-Masque is a flavor of the month?

To quote "getting a lot of plays the past month or so"

Sounds like flavour of the month to me.  It's good now, but will it be
good in a years time?  I am not saying will you be playing it in a
years time, just whether it will be good.

Sure it's good. It's an all time classic.

Quote:
  Maybe I should. But that would be going against the way I've always
listened to music. I always obsess over a set number of albums, until
something can crowbar me away from them. I do also mix in other albums
from whenever time they were released.

OCD?

Yep. It explains a lot.

Quote:
don't seem to want to talk about older albums, so I just don't mention
them.

Well you're the one mentioning loving albums that are 10 years old.
Now steady on, 10 years is such a loooooong time, how ever do you
manage it.

It comes and it goes. I may shelf a record for 6 months, and then
bring it back for several listens. Sometimes a new remaster will bring
an album out of a several year lull.

Tom
 
audiophile...
Posted: Tue Oct 06, 2009 2:52 pm
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On Oct 6, 7:31 pm, "tom_... at (no spam) juno.com" <tom.madm... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:
Quote:
On Oct 6, 1:29 am, Wyrd <Wyr... at (no spam) hotmail.co.uk> wrote:

   But it is an album I kept listening to for years and years. True,
of recent time (last year or so) I haven't listened to it much.

So is it a good album?  Will it still be a good album if you don't
listen to it for a year or maybe two?

  It's my all time favorite thrash album.

  So, Kansas-Masque is a flavor of the month?

To quote "getting a lot of plays the past month or so"

Sounds like flavour of the month to me.  It's good now, but will it be
good in a years time?  I am not saying will you be playing it in a
years time, just whether it will be good.

  Sure it's good. It's an all time classic.

  Maybe I should. But that would be going against the way I've always
listened to music. I always obsess over a set number of albums, until
something can crowbar me away from them. I do also mix in other albums
from whenever time they were released.

OCD?

  Yep. It explains a lot.

It sure does.

e.
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and it should have obvious
 
Wyrd...
Posted: Tue Oct 06, 2009 8:47 pm
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On Oct 7, 12:31 am, "tom_... at (no spam) juno.com" <tom.madm... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:
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On Oct 6, 1:29 am, Wyrd <Wyr... at (no spam) hotmail.co.uk> wrote:

   But it is an album I kept listening to for years and years. True,
of recent time (last year or so) I haven't listened to it much.

So is it a good album?  Will it still be a good album if you don't
listen to it for a year or maybe two?

  It's my all time favorite thrash album.

How about you answer the second question?
Quote:

  So, Kansas-Masque is a flavor of the month?

To quote "getting a lot of plays the past month or so"

Sounds like flavour of the month to me.  It's good now, but will it be
good in a years time?  I am not saying will you be playing it in a
years time, just whether it will be good.

  Sure it's good. It's an all time classic.

Problems answering difficult questions? Or is it just easier to
ignore them?

Quote:

  Maybe I should. But that would be going against the way I've always
listened to music. I always obsess over a set number of albums, until
something can crowbar me away from them. I do also mix in other albums
from whenever time they were released.

OCD?

  Yep. It explains a lot.

Sure does.
Quote:

don't seem to want to talk about older albums, so I just don't mention
them.

Well you're the one mentioning loving albums that are 10 years old.
Now steady on, 10 years is such a loooooong time, how ever do you
manage it.

  It comes and it goes. I may shelf a record for 6 months, and then
bring it back for several listens. Sometimes a new remaster will bring
an album out of a several year lull.

Ahh so leading up to the lull (and beyond) it goes from good to bad to
good again....;-)

E.
 
tom_w_b at (no spam) juno.com...
Posted: Wed Oct 07, 2009 2:58 pm
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On Oct 6, 6:52 pm, audiophile <audiophi... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:

Quote:
OCD?

  Yep. It explains a lot.

It sure does.

e.
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and it should have obvious

I believe I've stated I have it many a times here, and AMJP.

Tom

It's no secret
 
tom_w_b at (no spam) juno.com...
Posted: Wed Oct 07, 2009 3:03 pm
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On Oct 7, 12:47 am, Wyrd <Wyr... at (no spam) hotmail.co.uk> wrote:

Quote:
So is it a good album?  Will it still be a good album if you don't
listen to it for a year or maybe two?

  It's my all time favorite thrash album.

How about you answer the second question?

I probably haven't listened to it in a year or so. I'm on a break
from Slayer, I guess. And to answer the question, I have not, nor ever
will call RiB a bad album. It's good now, it's good next year, and God
willing, it will be good when I'm 64.

Quote:
  So, Kansas-Masque is a flavor of the month?

good in a years time?  I am not saying will you be playing it in a
years time, just whether it will be good.

  Sure it's good. It's an all time classic.

Problems answering difficult questions?  Or is it just easier to
ignore them?

I can't ever see when I would not like the album. I think it's very
good.

Quote:
OCD?

  Yep. It explains a lot.

Sure does.

So, you going to pick on me for it?

Quote:
  It comes and it goes. I may shelf a record for 6 months, and then
bring it back for several listens. Sometimes a new remaster will bring
an album out of a several year lull.

Ahh so leading up to the lull (and beyond) it goes from good to bad to
good again....;-)

E.

It's not that simple. Good albums are good. I do find though, that
something I thought good 10-20 years ago, and not listened to in a
long time, on occasion I listen and then think "I liked this?"
Surely I am not the only one.

Tom
 
Wyrd...
Posted: Thu Oct 08, 2009 12:55 am
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On Oct 8, 1:58 am, "tom_... at (no spam) juno.com" <tom.madm... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:
Quote:
On Oct 6, 6:52 pm, audiophile <audiophi... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:

OCD?

  Yep. It explains a lot.

It sure does.

e.
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and it should have obvious

  I believe I've stated I have it many a times here, and AMJP.

Tom

It's no secret

I must have missed it. It was purely an educated guess on my part.
Then again it helps in my profession to be able to assess people.

E.
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Wyrd...
Posted: Thu Oct 08, 2009 1:02 am
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On Oct 8, 2:03 am, "tom_... at (no spam) juno.com" <tom.madm... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:
Quote:
On Oct 7, 12:47 am, Wyrd <Wyr... at (no spam) hotmail.co.uk> wrote:

So is it a good album?  Will it still be a good album if you don't
listen to it for a year or maybe two?

  It's my all time favorite thrash album.

How about you answer the second question?

  I probably haven't listened to it in a year or so. I'm on a break
from Slayer, I guess. And to answer the question, I have not, nor ever
will call RiB a bad album. It's good now, it's good next year, and God
willing, it will be good when I'm 64.

Now we are singing from the same hymm sheet. This is how I view lots
(read = hundreds if not more), of albums.
Quote:

  So, Kansas-Masque is a flavor of the month?
good in a years time?  I am not saying will you be playing it in a
years time, just whether it will be good.

  Sure it's good. It's an all time classic.

Problems answering difficult questions?  Or is it just easier to
ignore them?

  I can't ever see when I would not like the album. I think it's very
good.

See above. We are finally getting somewhere.
Quote:

OCD?

  Yep. It explains a lot.

Sure does.

  So, you going to pick on me for it?

Hell no. I have a friend who has it. A bit of gentle ribbing
sometimes, but she gives as good as she gets with my health issues.
I'll pick on you if you say stupid things, just like others do to me.
As I said in the other post it was an educated guess, but it does
explain your reasons for how you view stuff.

Do you think so little of me that you think I would pick on you for
that?
Quote:

  It comes and it goes. I may shelf a record for 6 months, and then
bring it back for several listens. Sometimes a new remaster will bring
an album out of a several year lull.

Ahh so leading up to the lull (and beyond) it goes from good to bad to
good again....;-)

E.

  It's not that simple. Good albums are good. I do find though, that
something I thought good 10-20 years ago, and not listened to in a
long time, on occasion I listen and then think "I liked this?"
  Surely I am not the only one.

Maybe, but I don't think it's to the same extent as you.

E.
--
I'll play nice...for a bit..Wink
 
tom_w_b at (no spam) juno.com...
Posted: Thu Oct 08, 2009 1:47 pm
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On Oct 8, 5:02 am, Wyrd <Wyr... at (no spam) hotmail.co.uk> wrote:

Quote:
How about you answer the second question?

  I probably haven't listened to it in a year or so. I'm on a break
from Slayer, I guess. And to answer the question, I have not, nor ever
will call RiB a bad album. It's good now, it's good next year, and God
willing, it will be good when I'm 64.

Now we are singing from the same hymm sheet.  This is how I view lots
(read = hundreds if not more), of albums.

I do as well. I hope you can understand that even though there is
100's if not more of great albums, there is not enough time to listen
to many of them in a given day.

Quote:
  So, you going to pick on me for it?

Hell no.  I have a friend who has it.  A bit of gentle ribbing
sometimes, but she gives as good as she gets with my health issues.
I'll pick on you if you say stupid things, just like others do to me.
As I said in the other post it was an educated guess, but it does
explain your reasons for how you view stuff.

Do you think so little of me that you think I would pick on you for
that?

A ribbing is fine. Sometimes intent doesn't come out in harsh
printed word. I know we've crossed paths a few times here, but bygones
be bygones.
If I say something stupid, then I guess I deserve it.
I hope your health issues clear up soon.

Quote:
  It's not that simple. Good albums are good. I do find though, that
something I thought good 10-20 years ago, and not listened to in a
long time, on occasion I listen and then think "I liked this?"
  Surely I am not the only one.

Maybe, but I don't think it's to the same extent as you.

E.
--
I'll play nice...for a bit..Wink

I don't know, some of that 80's hair metal stuff was pretty
horrible, it just took a few years away from the 80's to realize it. A
lot of it is laughingly referred to as "heavy metal" by some.
Radio rock. but it's not really an insult to call something "radio
rock".

Tom

It is what it is.

Listened to the songs off of Blue Oyster Cult's Spectres that I like.
It's an old album from around 1977. Certainly a flavor of the month
that I've been listening to for close to 25 years.
 
Wyrd...
Posted: Thu Oct 08, 2009 8:58 pm
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On Oct 9, 12:47 am, "tom_... at (no spam) juno.com" <tom.madm... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:
Quote:
On Oct 8, 5:02 am, Wyrd <Wyr... at (no spam) hotmail.co.uk> wrote:

How about you answer the second question?

  I probably haven't listened to it in a year or so. I'm on a break
from Slayer, I guess. And to answer the question, I have not, nor ever
will call RiB a bad album. It's good now, it's good next year, and God
willing, it will be good when I'm 64.

Now we are singing from the same hymm sheet.  This is how I view lots
(read = hundreds if not more), of albums.

  I do as well. I hope you can understand that even though there is
100's if not more of great albums, there is not enough time to listen
to many of them in a given day.

This is the point I have been trying to make all along. Along with
the faact that great albums remain the same whether they are on
constant rotation or they haven't been touched for a week/month/year/
decade.
Quote:

  So, you going to pick on me for it?

Hell no.  I have a friend who has it.  A bit of gentle ribbing
sometimes, but she gives as good as she gets with my health issues.
I'll pick on you if you say stupid things, just like others do to me.
As I said in the other post it was an educated guess, but it does
explain your reasons for how you view stuff.

Do you think so little of me that you think I would pick on you for
that?

   A ribbing is fine. Sometimes intent doesn't come out in harsh
printed word. I know we've crossed paths a few times here, but bygones
be bygones.
  If I say something stupid, then I guess I deserve it.
  I hope your health issues clear up soon.

My intent is usually gentle ripping of everyone and to poke fun at
silly things written. I have too much shit to deal with in RL to
bring that here too, but it does impact a tad, to my annoyance at
times. The Cheeky chap shall return.

Health is getting there, still going to be off work a while longer and
then when I do get back to work on restricted duties and limted hours
for the first 12 weeks.
Quote:

  It's not that simple. Good albums are good. I do find though, that
something I thought good 10-20 years ago, and not listened to in a
long time, on occasion I listen and then think "I liked this?"
  Surely I am not the only one.

Maybe, but I don't think it's to the same extent as you.

E.
--
I'll play nice...for a bit..;-)

  I don't know, some of that 80's hair metal stuff was pretty
horrible, it just took a few years away from the 80's to realize it. A
lot of it is laughingly referred to as "heavy metal" by some.

I know your views on the hair metal. Some of it I don't have issues
with it, it was borne out of fun and having a good time. A true sex,
drugs and rock n' roll attitude. I much prefer that attidude to the
angst ridden diatribe that affects a lot of metal(or so called
metal). Get a fucking grip you bunch of moaning twats, get drunk, get
laid and put a smile on your ugly face.

Hair metal for me is still metal and always will be. There were some
good guitarist amongst the sugar-coated masses.

Quote:
  Radio rock. but it's not really an insult to call something "radio
rock".

Being popular shouldn't be a crime, unless TJ is the judge and then
he'd hang anyone that moved out of their basement for selling out..;-)

I generally regard Rock Radio as the AoR stuff and Meat Loaf, Queen.

E.
 
tom_w_b at (no spam) juno.com...
Posted: Fri Oct 09, 2009 12:26 pm
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On Oct 9, 12:58 am, Wyrd <Wyr... at (no spam) hotmail.co.uk> wrote:

Quote:
  I do as well. I hope you can understand that even though there is
100's if not more of great albums, there is not enough time to listen
to many of them in a given day.

This is the point I have been trying to make all along.  Along with
the faact that great albums remain the same whether they are on
constant rotation or they haven't been touched for a week/month/year/
decade.

I try to listen to some stuff, but a lot of the mid-80's CD's were
put to disc with low volume, when you work in a loud factory, you
can't hear some of those albums over the noise. Being that most of my
listening is at work, they just don't get played much.

Quote:
  I hope your health issues clear up soon.

My intent is usually gentle ripping of everyone and to poke fun at
silly things written.  I have too much shit to deal with in RL to
bring that here too, but it does impact a tad, to my annoyance at
times.  The Cheeky chap shall return.

Health is getting there, still going to be off work a while longer and
then when I do get back to work on restricted duties and limted hours
for the first 12 weeks.

Well, I hope your health does get back to normal soon.

Quote:
Hair metal for me is still metal and always will be.  There were some
good guitarist amongst the sugar-coated masses.

There were. Some of the best shred guitar ever recorded. But to me-
shred guitar does not = "heavy metal" necessarily. If you call it
"hair metal" I guess it's ok, or 80's LA metal, or even pop metal.

Quote:
  Radio rock. but it's not really an insult to call something "radio
rock".

Being popular shouldn't be a crime, unless TJ is the judge and then
he'd hang anyone that moved out of their basement for selling out..Wink

I said radio rock is not an insult. There were a good number of said
bands who never really made it big and are now called one hit wonders.

Quote:
I generally regard Rock Radio as the AoR stuff and Meat Loaf, Queen.

E.

Maybe I should have stated "hard rock" instead of just rock. The
classic rock station here plays Queen, not Meatloaf so much. But they
play Black Sabbath (Ozzy era), Metallica, Judas Priest, and so on.
Don't hear Maiden as much as should be. (in fact it was about 5 years
between hearing a song by them, by memory.) I only hear about 2-3
songs a day or so. I only listen while driving. I don't listen to that
station in the morning while driving because they have a talk show on.
I sort of hate talk show blathering.

Tom
 
audiophile...
Posted: Sun Oct 11, 2009 4:41 pm
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On Oct 11, 10:38 pm, cailinsdad <dobrien51... at (no spam) nospam.com> wrote:
Quote:
On Sat, 3 Oct 2009 14:04:18 -0700 (PDT), Wyrd <Wyr... at (no spam) hotmail.co.uk
wrote:

I do think it's retarded to only rate a band/album on the amount of
listens they get and if you're still playing them.  Just because you
change, the music stays the same.  So if you thought highly of
something 10 years ago, why should it change now (speaking of specific
albums here, rather than trends/genres/ that go out of fashion).

For instance,  I think I have listened to Miles Davis' Bitches Brew
maybe a dozen times in my life.  I think it is genius but it's not
going on often because I really have to be in the mood.

I only listen to diSEMBOWELMENT's transcendence into the peripheral
once or twice a year, but when I do it's like a religious experience.
I rate that album *much* higher than anything I've listened to 20
times or more this year.

d.
--
the cerulean transience of all my imagined shores
 
cailinsdad...
Posted: Sun Oct 11, 2009 8:38 pm
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On Sat, 3 Oct 2009 14:04:18 -0700 (PDT), Wyrd <Wyrd05 at (no spam) hotmail.co.uk>
wrote:

Quote:
I do think it's retarded to only rate a band/album on the amount of
listens they get and if you're still playing them. Just because you
change, the music stays the same. So if you thought highly of
something 10 years ago, why should it change now (speaking of specific
albums here, rather than trends/genres/ that go out of fashion).

For instance, I think I have listened to Miles Davis' Bitches Brew
maybe a dozen times in my life. I think it is genius but it's not
going on often because I really have to be in the mood.
 
 
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