On Thu, 19 Feb 2009 17:33:43 -0800 (PST), musica... at (no spam) gmail.com wrote:

BRUCE music is ABOUT GOOD COOL GROOVES and HOOKS!! it dont matter if
the LINES ASCEND OR DESCEND!!!! its ROCK AND ROLL . LITTLE RICHARD
TYPE MUSIC!!!

Seems like after all those Detroit Medley finsihes folks would have
caught on by now don't you think.

On Feb 19, 8:33 pm, musica... at (no spam) gmail.com wrote:



MAGIC is all the same as opposed to BORN TO RUN??? BORN
to RUN songs are UNIQUELY to each other???

I don't believe I made that comparison, but yes, the songs on Born To
Run have melodies that are structured very differently from one
another.

BRUCE aint ENO

What?

-Jyqm

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On Feb 17, 8:13 pm, musica... at (no spam) gmail.com wrote:

its CALLED CHARACHTER, back in the day folk used to like mistakes and
imperfections. back in the day nobody wanted to sound too white. like
SHUGGIE OTIS one of the great said, 'back then we made a mistake we
fought to keep it in, it sounded so good. nowadays the put the
computer to it
and clean it right up messin it totally up. dreck.

as for GIRLS IN THE SUMMER CLOTHES its one BRUCE great tracks sung
like
it SUPPOSED to be sung. you caint sing a CHARLEY PATTON song with
a voice from one of them TV people they got now, dont recall the
names
but
they all sing the same.

"Yes, that's exactly it. I would greatly prefer it if Bruce sang his
songs without any character in his voice whatsoever, and if he used a
computer to correct all of his vocals so that he could sound like a
bland TV pop singer. That is exactly what I am saying."

I think you missed his point, which is, those songs needed to be sung
that
way. How else you gonna sing em?

"the DIAPHRAGM?? i dont know that RABBIT BROWN sang from
the DIAPHRAGM nor ROBERT JOHNSON or even WEBB PIERCE for that matter."

No, but some songs on this album are more like Frank Sinatra than Robert
Johnson. I don't know it's it's singing from the diaphagm, but it's more
melodic singing, sustaining notes, requiring a stronger voice.

"i belevie what they want over at the BRUCE BOARD is that BRUCE sign
like that fellow from PEARL JAMS or the one from THE WHO> forget it
BRUCE is into the MUSICOLOGY THING>"

Yeah, I think they forgot their pop "roots"!- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

"i dont KNOW what goin on amongst your BRUCERS!!  GRUMPY!!
turns out that now everythin is a BIG PROBLEM!!! for many years BRUCE
records have lacked MELODIES and HARMONY, now they got COOL ONES but
they are no good for em, they find them BORIN!!!"

Yeah, that I don't get. These songs are all about melody. I do think the
ones on Magic were better than these, but these are good too!

"the voice is either TOO MELLOW or TOO STRAININ!!!! its one thing or
the other!!! its either WALMART or POLITICS or hes not sellin too many
units!!!! hes NO 1 on the charts!!!"

Well, some folks have agendas ....

" he sellin a lot more units that
THE WHO!!! or PEARL JAM!!  or the ARCADE FIRE!!! maybe even the U2!!!!
so BRUCE is doin PRETTY GOOD on that
front. and musicology wise, BRUCE GOT IT GOIN!! folks seem to question
BRUCE musicology credentials!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  and no live versions
of the GREAT NEW SONGS!!!!!! whats goin on?? they seem to be a bit TOO
GRUMPY!"

I think it's possible many are stuck in the days of yore with the Darkness
and BTR and The River and WIESS. Look at the "5 Bruce lines that struck
you" thread, most chose from those 4 albums.

I saw that also...and tried to come up with at least one line from every
decade.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

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On Feb 17, 8:13 pm, musica... at (no spam) gmail.com wrote:

its CALLED CHARACHTER, back in the day folk used to like mistakes
and
imperfections. back in the day nobody wanted to sound too white.
like
SHUGGIE OTIS one of the great said, 'back then we made a mistake we
fought to keep it in, it sounded so good. nowadays the put the
computer to it
and clean it right up messin it totally up. dreck.

as for GIRLS IN THE SUMMER CLOTHES its one BRUCE great tracks sung
like
it SUPPOSED to be sung. you caint sing a CHARLEY PATTON song with
a voice from one of them TV people they got now, dont recall the
names
but
they all sing the same.

"Yes, that's exactly it. I would greatly prefer it if Bruce sang his
songs without any character in his voice whatsoever, and if he used a
computer to correct all of his vocals so that he could sound like a
bland TV pop singer. That is exactly what I am saying."

I think you missed his point, which is, those songs needed to be sung
that
way. How else you gonna sing em?

"the DIAPHRAGM?? i dont know that RABBIT BROWN sang from
the DIAPHRAGM nor ROBERT JOHNSON or even WEBB PIERCE for that matter."

No, but some songs on this album are more like Frank Sinatra than Robert
Johnson. I don't know it's it's singing from the diaphagm, but it's more
melodic singing, sustaining notes, requiring a stronger voice.

"i belevie what they want over at the BRUCE BOARD is that BRUCE sign
like that fellow from PEARL JAMS or the one from THE WHO> forget it
BRUCE is into the MUSICOLOGY THING>"

Yeah, I think they forgot their pop "roots"!- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

"i dont KNOW what goin on amongst your BRUCERS!! GRUMPY!!
turns out that now everythin is a BIG PROBLEM!!! for many years BRUCE
records have lacked MELODIES and HARMONY, now they got COOL ONES but
they are no good for em, they find them BORIN!!!"

Yeah, that I don't get. These songs are all about melody. I do think the
ones on Magic were better than these, but these are good too!

"the voice is either TOO MELLOW or TOO STRAININ!!!! its one thing or
the other!!! its either WALMART or POLITICS or hes not sellin too many
units!!!! hes NO 1 on the charts!!!"

Well, some folks have agendas ....

" he sellin a lot more units that
THE WHO!!! or PEARL JAM!! or the ARCADE FIRE!!! maybe even the U2!!!!
so BRUCE is doin PRETTY GOOD on that
front. and musicology wise, BRUCE GOT IT GOIN!! folks seem to question
BRUCE musicology credentials!!!!!!!!!!!!!! and no live versions
of the GREAT NEW SONGS!!!!!! whats goin on?? they seem to be a bit TOO
GRUMPY!"

I think it's possible many are stuck in the days of yore with the Darkness
and BTR and The River and WIESS. Look at the "5 Bruce lines that struck
you"
thread, most chose from those 4 albums.

"BRUCE music is ABOUT GOOD COOL GROOVES and HOOKS!! it dont matter if
the LINES ASCEND OR DESCEND!!!! its ROCK AND ROLL . LITTLE RICHARD
TYPE MUSIC!!! MAGIC is all the same as opposed to BORN TO RUN??? BORN
to RUN songs are UNIQUELY to each other??? or are they all CUT OUTTA
THE SAME BRUCE MUSIC CLOTH?? how about them FRAT ROCK type of songs
from RIVER?????? its not simpley GOOD MUSIC
its GOOD BRUCE MUSIC< theres a REASON there the "BRUCE" in there.
BRUCE aint ENO>"

Yes, all Bruce's albums have songs that sound sort of similar to the other
ones on the album, with the possible exception of TOL. None more than WEISS,
BTR, and Darkness. Bruce has always been that way, it's nothing new.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

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On Feb 17, 8:13 pm, musica... at (no spam) gmail.com wrote:

its CALLED CHARACHTER, back in the day folk used to like mistakes
and
imperfections. back in the day nobody wanted to sound too white.
like
SHUGGIE OTIS one of the great said, 'back then we made a mistake we
fought to keep it in, it sounded so good. nowadays the put the
computer to it
and clean it right up messin it totally up. dreck.

as for GIRLS IN THE SUMMER CLOTHES its one BRUCE great tracks sung
like
it SUPPOSED to be sung. you caint sing a CHARLEY PATTON song with
a voice from one of them TV people they got now, dont recall the
names
but
they all sing the same.

"Yes, that's exactly it. I would greatly prefer it if Bruce sang his
songs without any character in his voice whatsoever, and if he used a
computer to correct all of his vocals so that he could sound like a
bland TV pop singer. That is exactly what I am saying."

I think you missed his point, which is, those songs needed to be sung
that
way. How else you gonna sing em?

"the DIAPHRAGM?? i dont know that RABBIT BROWN sang from
the DIAPHRAGM nor ROBERT JOHNSON or even WEBB PIERCE for that matter."

No, but some songs on this album are more like Frank Sinatra than Robert
Johnson. I don't know it's it's singing from the diaphagm, but it's more
melodic singing, sustaining notes, requiring a stronger voice.

"i belevie what they want over at the BRUCE BOARD is that BRUCE sign
like that fellow from PEARL JAMS or the one from THE WHO> forget it
BRUCE is into the MUSICOLOGY THING>"

Yeah, I think they forgot their pop "roots"!- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

"i dont KNOW what goin on amongst your BRUCERS!! GRUMPY!!
turns out that now everythin is a BIG PROBLEM!!! for many years BRUCE
records have lacked MELODIES and HARMONY, now they got COOL ONES but
they are no good for em, they find them BORIN!!!"

Yeah, that I don't get. These songs are all about melody. I do think the
ones on Magic were better than these, but these are good too!

"the voice is either TOO MELLOW or TOO STRAININ!!!! its one thing or
the other!!! its either WALMART or POLITICS or hes not sellin too many
units!!!! hes NO 1 on the charts!!!"

Well, some folks have agendas ....

" he sellin a lot more units that
THE WHO!!! or PEARL JAM!! or the ARCADE FIRE!!! maybe even the U2!!!!
so BRUCE is doin PRETTY GOOD on that
front. and musicology wise, BRUCE GOT IT GOIN!! folks seem to question
BRUCE musicology credentials!!!!!!!!!!!!!! and no live versions
of the GREAT NEW SONGS!!!!!! whats goin on?? they seem to be a bit TOO
GRUMPY!"

I think it's possible many are stuck in the days of yore with the Darkness
and BTR and The River and WIESS. Look at the "5 Bruce lines that struck
you"
thread, most chose from those 4 albums.

It ain't the corn that's the problem, it's the strain in his voice.
Bruce doesn't have the range or timbre of an Orbison or a Wilson,
and I think he'd do well not to pretend he does. Listen to the verses
on "Your Own Worst Enema" and tell me it doesn't sound like
Springsteen hasn't taken a dump in weeks.

On Feb 19, 11:03 pm, gumboman <gu... at (no spam) gumbo.com> wrote:
On Thu, 19 Feb 2009 17:33:43 -0800 (PST), musica... at (no spam) gmail.com wrote:

BRUCE music is ABOUT GOOD COOL GROOVES and HOOKS!! it dont matter if
the LINES ASCEND OR DESCEND!!!! its ROCK AND ROLL . LITTLE RICHARD
TYPE MUSIC!!!

Seems like after all those Detroit Medley finsihes folks would have
caught on by now don't you think.

its good that the BORN TO RUN melodies are structured different to
each other, OTHERWISE i would have thought it was one long song. with
the FIFTIES type of vibe and the BIG CRESCNEDO at the end of each one
( a time out to take a big breath for MEETIN ACROSS the RIVER), then
back for OOOOOO JUNGLELAND. completely different to each other. yes.
no doubt.

the q postin remind me of a FELLOW i knowed some years ago
who went to.... MUSIC SCHOOL!!

he would not listen to BRUCE music
or ROCK and ROLL!! lord forbid you would play SOMETHIN as primitve
as RABBIT BROWN!! forget it, one time he was playin some sorta PAT
METHANEY (sp) music and how perfect it was, the parts were done
correctly and mathematically correct melodies, not like JERRY GARCIA
who would NEVER do his solo at the right time he missed the break etc
etc. i had to tell em that if he DIDNT SHUT DOWN that AWFUL but
PERFECT PAT METHANEY type of music i was gonna take his stereo and
throw it out the window, it was aggravatin everybody.

or like PAUL SIMON criticzin BOB album by sayin 'the same three
chords', and BOB sayin ' well YES OF COURSE".

He couldn't pay jillions of
dollars to get into one of those fancy, schmancy Eastern schools that
gave us all the Wall Street, Republican types

On Fri, 20 Feb 2009 06:11:38 -0800 (PST), musica... at (no spam) gmail.com wrote:

the q postin remind me of a FELLOW i knowed some years ago
who went to.... MUSIC SCHOOL!!

MUSIC SCHOOL? What's the matter with him? He couldn't pay jillions of
dollars to get into one of those fancy, schmancy Eastern schools that
gave us all the Wall Street, Republican types that were going to run
the country forever?

he would not listen to BRUCE music
or ROCK and ROLL!! lord forbid you would play SOMETHIN as primitve
as RABBIT BROWN!! forget it, one time he was playin some sorta PAT
METHANEY (sp) music and how perfect it was, the parts were done
correctly and mathematically correct melodies, not like JERRY GARCIA
who would NEVER do his solo at the right time he missed the break etc
etc. i had to tell em that if he DIDNT SHUT DOWN that AWFUL but
PERFECT PAT METHANEY type of music i was gonna take his stereo and
throw it out the window, it was aggravatin everybody.

I know what you mean. I read an article today where all the Eastern
MBA types are going to have to scale back on their standard of living.
Seems as though they are wising up to the fact that if you lose
everyone's money no one is going to be knocking at your door any
longer.

Funny how that works ...........

or like PAUL SIMON criticzin BOB album by sayin 'the same three
chords', and BOB sayin ' well YES OF COURSE".

Bob got a sense of humor.

On Sun, 22 Feb 2009 21:07:57 -0600, gumboman <gumbo at (no spam) gumbo.com> wrote:

He couldn't pay jillions of
dollars to get into one of those fancy, schmancy Eastern schools that
gave us all the Wall Street, Republican types


http://abcnews.go.com/Business/MarketTalk/popup?id=3404916&contentIndex=1&page=1&start=false

On Mon, 23 Feb 2009 05:03:30 -0800 (PST), musica... at (no spam) gmail.com wrote:

Funny how that works ...........

or like PAUL SIMON criticzin BOB album by sayin 'the same three
chords', and BOB sayin ' well YES OF COURSE".

Bob got a sense of humor.

on top of the FACT they make millios SELLIN worthless papers they want
MORE MILLIONS in bonus!!! maybe they figure they f up is responisible
for the FREE money they are gettin so they wanna a cut.

If you screw up you get a bonus and/or a promotion. It's the
Republican way.

So, you didn't tell me what you thought this tour might be like.

Funny how that works ...........

or like PAUL SIMON criticzin BOB album by sayin 'the same three
chords', and BOB sayin ' well YES OF COURSE".

Bob got a sense of humor.

on top of the FACT they make millios SELLIN worthless papers they want
MORE MILLIONS in bonus!!! maybe they figure they f up is responisible
for the FREE money they are gettin so they wanna a cut.

On Mon, 23 Feb 2009 05:03:30 -0800 (PST), musica... at (no spam) gmail.com wrote:

Funny how that works ...........

or like PAUL SIMON criticzin BOB album by sayin 'the same three
chords', and BOB sayin ' well YES OF COURSE".

Bob got a sense of humor.

on top of the FACT they make millios SELLIN worthless papers they want
MORE MILLIONS in bonus!!! maybe they figure they f up is responisible
for the FREE money they are gettin so they wanna a cut.

If you screw up you get a bonus and/or a promotion. It's the
Republican way.

So, you didn't tell me what you thought this tour might be like.

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On Mon, 23 Feb 2009 05:03:30 -0800 (PST), musica... at (no spam) gmail.com wrote:

Funny how that works ...........

or like PAUL SIMON criticzin BOB album by sayin 'the same three
chords', and BOB sayin ' well YES OF COURSE".

Bob got a sense of humor.

on top of the FACT they make millios SELLIN worthless papers they want
MORE MILLIONS in bonus!!! maybe they figure they f up is responisible
for the FREE money they are gettin so they wanna a cut.

If you screw up you get a bonus and/or a promotion. It's the
Republican way.

So, you didn't tell me what you thought this tour might be like.

"all BRUCE tours are SIMILAR in nature, this one will be a good one
with HOPEFULLY more of the newer material to give the older
'standards' a breather.
tho i would think i would give em a month on the road to get
acclimated (sp), it may be a bit of huffin and puffin at the beginnig"

--------------------------------------------------------

Oh yeah, my not to be named insiders have reported some snafus during this
tour's rehearsals.

During "10th Avenue Freezeout"
Springsteen (singing): And I'm alone...I'm all alone
Clarence: And, kid, you better get my roasted chicken

While practicing improvised on stage patter:
Springsteen: HEY, STEVE!  DO YOU KNOW WHAT TIME IT IS?!??
Steven:  Dinner time?  Please...- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -