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| Professor Jackson... |
Posted: Mon Oct 26, 2009 1:07 pm |
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On hs new CD "Christmas in the Heart" Bob Dylan does a rollicking
polka version of "Must Be Santa." It is fantastic!!! |
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| Professor Jackson... |
Posted: Mon Oct 26, 2009 1:12 pm |
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| jrodg... |
Posted: Mon Oct 26, 2009 2:00 pm |
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On Oct 26, 7:12 pm, Professor Jackson <professorjackson1... at (no spam) gmail.com>
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Thanks for this cool news: Personally, I think B. Dylan ( Mr.
Tambourine Man, Girl from the North Country, Positively 4th Street,
Quinn the Eskimo, just to name a few of his many songs) is the
greatest songwriter ever in the English language ) ---and to hear him
record a polka is great ---Incidentally , much of his fine songwriting
is derivative; that is, he creates brilliantly "cool" modern
adaptations of traditional material ---- and this number is derived
from the old German hit, "Schnitzelbank" (and/or a similar German
number : There are a couple of regional variations of this song in the
German-speaking world, and it's not clear which came first,
"Schnitzelbank ", which made it across the Atlantic to America, or one
of its German regional "cousins") . |
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| Lori Young... |
Posted: Mon Oct 26, 2009 2:37 pm |
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On Oct 26, 7:00 pm, jrodg <jrod... at (no spam) optonline.net> wrote:
Quote: On Oct 26, 7:12 pm, Professor Jackson <professorjackson1... at (no spam) gmail.com
wrote:
while it lasts, here is a youtube version
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FTgqnXae2LQ
Thanks for this cool news: Personally, I think B. Dylan ( Mr.
Tambourine Man, Girl from the North Country, Positively 4th Street,
Quinn the Eskimo, just to name a few of his many songs) is the
greatest songwriter ever in the English language ) ---and to hear him
record a polka is great ---Incidentally , much of his fine songwriting
is derivative; that is, he creates brilliantly "cool" modern
adaptations of traditional material ---- and this number is derived
from the old German hit, "Schnitzelbank" (and/or a similar German
number : There are a couple of regional variations of this song in the
German-speaking world, and it's not clear which came first,
"Schnitzelbank ", which made it across the Atlantic to America, or one
of its German regional "cousins") .
Mr. Dylan was actually inspired Brave Combo's arrangement of "Must Be
Santa" from their 1991 release "It's Christmas, Man!". (Theirs was
adapted from the Mitch Miller version.) He played it on his radio show
a few years ago and his press people brought up the link quite often
during the initial push on the CD a few weeks ago. To be more exact
though he actually created his take on the song from a Brave Combo
live concert recording right down to the presidents' names being
listed along with the reindeer's' names. (If you have access to
iTunes it's the "Live from Cat's Cradle" version.) If you want to
hear Brave Combo's CD version I suggest this YouTube video where a guy
used the song to accompany a Christmas light display on his house.
It's pretty cool.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ki7m2GFKrjM
Lori |
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| Wild Wilson... |
Posted: Mon Oct 26, 2009 11:56 pm |
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thanks for that Lori, I hadn't ever seen that before. I got the
email from Carl weeks ago and got a copy of Bobby's version (met his
mom in a deli in st. paul years ago and that's what she calls him) of
'must be santa' and actually you can hear it on my show this week on
the World's Polka Network and as well at my site for 2 weeks. Of
course had to play something by B.C. as well. It's from their great
'Process' CD. Well that's all I have this early Tuesday morning.
Everyone have a glorious and blessed day! - the Wildman
http://wildwilson.com/id1.html
http://247polkaheaven.com |
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| jrodg... |
Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2009 4:50 am |
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On Oct 26, 8:37 pm, Lori Young <hosad... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:
Quote: On Oct 26, 7:00 pm, jrodg <jrod... at (no spam) optonline.net> wrote:
On Oct 26, 7:12 pm, Professor Jackson <professorjackson1... at (no spam) gmail.com
wrote:
while it lasts, here is a youtube version
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FTgqnXae2LQ
Thanks for this cool news: Personally, I think B. Dylan ( Mr.
Tambourine Man, Girl from the North Country, Positively 4th Street,
Quinn the Eskimo, just to name a few of his many songs) is the
greatest songwriter ever in the English language ) ---and to hear him
record a polka is great ---Incidentally , much of his fine songwriting
is derivative; that is, he creates brilliantly "cool" modern
adaptations of traditional material ---- and this number is derived
from the old German hit, "Schnitzelbank" (and/or a similar German
number : There are a couple of regional variations of this song in the
German-speaking world, and it's not clear which came first,
"Schnitzelbank ", which made it across the Atlantic to America, or one
of its German regional "cousins") .
Mr. Dylan was actually inspired Brave Combo's arrangement of "Must Be
Santa" from their 1991 release "It's Christmas, Man!". (Theirs was
adapted from the Mitch Miller version.) He played it on his radio show
a few years ago and his press people brought up the link quite often
during the initial push on the CD a few weeks ago. To be more exact
though he actually created his take on the song from a Brave Combo
live concert recording right down to the presidents' names being
listed along with the reindeer's' names. (If you have access to
iTunes it's the "Live from Cat's Cradle" version.) If you want to
hear Brave Combo's CD version I suggest this YouTube video where a guy
used the song to accompany a Christmas light display on his house.
It's pretty cool.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ki7m2GFKrjM
Lori- Hide quoted text -
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That's cool and good to know ... a nice achievement by BC ---
However, ultimately, anybody familiar with Schnitzelbank ( ""Is this
not a Schnitzelbank-- Yes, that is a Schnitzelbank ( repeated) and
chorus "Ei, du schoene, ei du schone, ei du schoene Schnitzelbank) can
tell that the original inspiration ( conscious or unconsciously: I
know that unconscious inspiration happens , too) of this number is the
German "Schnitzelbank" series : The whole pattern sequence , rhythm/
meter, alternating question-and-answer lines follow the orginal songs'
pattern , while the melody, which parallels that of Schnitzelbank
( while always an interval higher) is, I now recall, the exact melody
of the Schnitzelbank variation known as "Die Hobelbank" ( found in
various old German songbooks) ---This is not meant in any way to take
credit away from BC or whoever wrote this cute Santa version ---just
as the fact that many , if not most, of Dylan's compositions used old
traditional melodies does not detract from the fact that he is , I
think, "the greatest songwriter ever" in our language....and Brave
Combo, and especially the person who wrote this song, can be eternally
proud and happy ( as can the whole polka field , in a broader sense, I
think) that the great Bob Dylan chose to record their song. -
It's also cool that Wild Wilson, being from Bob Dyan's hometown,
Minneapolis, has met Dylan's mom ---because BD is truly "THE MAN" of
the ages in American (and English language in general) songwriting. |
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| Lori Young... |
Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2009 5:39 am |
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On Oct 27, 9:50 am, jrodg <jrod... at (no spam) optonline.net> wrote:
Quote: On Oct 26, 8:37 pm, Lori Young <hosad... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:
On Oct 26, 7:00 pm, jrodg <jrod... at (no spam) optonline.net> wrote:
On Oct 26, 7:12 pm, Professor Jackson <professorjackson1... at (no spam) gmail.com
wrote:
while it lasts, here is a youtube version
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FTgqnXae2LQ
Thanks for this cool news: Personally, I think B. Dylan ( Mr.
Tambourine Man, Girl from the North Country, Positively 4th Street,
Quinn the Eskimo, just to name a few of his many songs) is the
greatest songwriter ever in the English language ) ---and to hear him
record a polka is great ---Incidentally , much of his fine songwriting
is derivative; that is, he creates brilliantly "cool" modern
adaptations of traditional material ---- and this number is derived
from the old German hit, "Schnitzelbank" (and/or a similar German
number : There are a couple of regional variations of this song in the
German-speaking world, and it's not clear which came first,
"Schnitzelbank ", which made it across the Atlantic to America, or one
of its German regional "cousins") .
Mr. Dylan was actually inspired Brave Combo's arrangement of "Must Be
Santa" from their 1991 release "It's Christmas, Man!". (Theirs was
adapted from the Mitch Miller version.) He played it on his radio show
a few years ago and his press people brought up the link quite often
during the initial push on the CD a few weeks ago. To be more exact
though he actually created his take on the song from a Brave Combo
live concert recording right down to the presidents' names being
listed along with the reindeer's' names. (If you have access to
iTunes it's the "Live from Cat's Cradle" version.) If you want to
hear Brave Combo's CD version I suggest this YouTube video where a guy
used the song to accompany a Christmas light display on his house.
It's pretty cool.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ki7m2GFKrjM
Lori- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
That's cool and good to know ... a nice achievement by BC ---
However, ultimately, anybody familiar with Schnitzelbank ( ""Is this
not a Schnitzelbank-- Yes, that is a Schnitzelbank ( repeated) and
chorus "Ei, du schoene, ei du schone, ei du schoene Schnitzelbank) can
tell that the original inspiration ( conscious or unconsciously: I
know that unconscious inspiration happens , too) of this number is the
German "Schnitzelbank" series : The whole pattern sequence , rhythm/
meter, alternating question-and-answer lines follow the orginal songs'
pattern , while the melody, which parallels that of Schnitzelbank
( while always an interval higher) is, I now recall, the exact melody
of the Schnitzelbank variation known as "Die Hobelbank" ( found in
various old German songbooks) ---This is not meant in any way to take
credit away from BC or whoever wrote this cute Santa version ---just
as the fact that many , if not most, of Dylan's compositions used old
traditional melodies does not detract from the fact that he is , I
think, "the greatest songwriter ever" in our language....and Brave
Combo, and especially the person who wrote this song, can be eternally
proud and happy ( as can the whole polka field , in a broader sense, I
think) that the great Bob Dylan chose to record their song. -
It's also cool that Wild Wilson, being from Bob Dyan's hometown,
Minneapolis, has met Dylan's mom ---because BD is truly "THE MAN" of
the ages in American (and English language in general) songwriting.
Just to be clear, Brave Combo does not claim to have written the
actual song. They, Bob Dylan or anyone that wants to record the song
with this basic tune and lyrics must pay "B. Fredricks, H. Moore
Woodwyn Music Company/ Intuititve Music" through Harry Fox. Now if
Fredricks & Moore were inspired by the German folk tune, I don't
know. But in this case Dylan recorded a polka version inspired by
BC's polka version....and it goes on and on.
Lori |
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| Mike Surratt... |
Posted: Tue Oct 27, 2009 6:19 am |
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Quote:
Just to be clear, Brave Combo does not claim to have written the
actual song. �They, Bob Dylan or anyone that wants to record the song
with this basic tune and lyrics must pay "B. Fredricks, H. Moore
Woodwyn Music Company/ Intuititve Music" through Harry Fox. � Now if
Fredricks & Moore were inspired by the German folk tune, I don't
know. �But in this case Dylan recorded a polka version inspired by
BC's polka version....and it goes on and on.
Lori-
I think we got that -- and I think Joe is just comparing the two. BTW
BC & BD are OK with me
MS |
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| AMUN... |
Posted: Wed Oct 28, 2009 5:40 pm |
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"Lori Young" <hosadyna at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote in message
news:e83fe716-7724-4c65-bdf2-8a7d8026f289 at (no spam) r5g2000yqb.googlegroups.com...
On Oct 27, 9:50 am, jrodg <jrod... at (no spam) optonline.net> wrote:
Quote: On Oct 26, 8:37 pm, Lori Young <hosad... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:
On Oct 26, 7:00 pm, jrodg <jrod... at (no spam) optonline.net> wrote:
On Oct 26, 7:12 pm, Professor Jackson <professorjackson1... at (no spam) gmail.com
wrote:
while it lasts, here is a youtube version
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FTgqnXae2LQ
Thanks for this cool news: Personally, I think B. Dylan ( Mr.
Tambourine Man, Girl from the North Country, Positively 4th Street,
Quinn the Eskimo, just to name a few of his many songs) is the
greatest songwriter ever in the English language ) ---and to hear him
record a polka is great ---Incidentally , much of his fine songwriting
is derivative; that is, he creates brilliantly "cool" modern
adaptations of traditional material ---- and this number is derived
from the old German hit, "Schnitzelbank" (and/or a similar German
number : There are a couple of regional variations of this song in the
German-speaking world, and it's not clear which came first,
"Schnitzelbank ", which made it across the Atlantic to America, or one
of its German regional "cousins") .
Mr. Dylan was actually inspired Brave Combo's arrangement of "Must Be
Santa" from their 1991 release "It's Christmas, Man!". (Theirs was
adapted from the Mitch Miller version.) He played it on his radio show
a few years ago and his press people brought up the link quite often
during the initial push on the CD a few weeks ago. To be more exact
though he actually created his take on the song from a Brave Combo
live concert recording right down to the presidents' names being
listed along with the reindeer's' names. (If you have access to
iTunes it's the "Live from Cat's Cradle" version.) If you want to
hear Brave Combo's CD version I suggest this YouTube video where a guy
used the song to accompany a Christmas light display on his house.
It's pretty cool.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ki7m2GFKrjM
Lori- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
That's cool and good to know ... a nice achievement by BC ---
However, ultimately, anybody familiar with Schnitzelbank ( ""Is this
not a Schnitzelbank-- Yes, that is a Schnitzelbank ( repeated) and
chorus "Ei, du schoene, ei du schone, ei du schoene Schnitzelbank) can
tell that the original inspiration ( conscious or unconsciously: I
know that unconscious inspiration happens , too) of this number is the
German "Schnitzelbank" series : The whole pattern sequence , rhythm/
meter, alternating question-and-answer lines follow the orginal songs'
pattern , while the melody, which parallels that of Schnitzelbank
( while always an interval higher) is, I now recall, the exact melody
of the Schnitzelbank variation known as "Die Hobelbank" ( found in
various old German songbooks) ---This is not meant in any way to take
credit away from BC or whoever wrote this cute Santa version ---just
as the fact that many , if not most, of Dylan's compositions used old
traditional melodies does not detract from the fact that he is , I
think, "the greatest songwriter ever" in our language....and Brave
Combo, and especially the person who wrote this song, can be eternally
proud and happy ( as can the whole polka field , in a broader sense, I
think) that the great Bob Dylan chose to record their song. -
It's also cool that Wild Wilson, being from Bob Dyan's hometown,
Minneapolis, has met Dylan's mom ---because BD is truly "THE MAN" of
the ages in American (and English language in general) songwriting.
Just to be clear, Brave Combo does not claim to have written the
actual song. They, Bob Dylan or anyone that wants to record the song
with this basic tune and lyrics must pay "B. Fredricks, H. Moore
Woodwyn Music Company/ Intuititve Music" through Harry Fox. Now if
Fredricks & Moore were inspired by the German folk tune, I don't
know. But in this case Dylan recorded a polka version inspired by
BC's polka version....and it goes on and on.
Lori
There is almost no doubt the Dylan arrangement was inspired by the style of
BC.
And I would not be surprised to someday learn they actually performed under
pseudonyms,...in the style of "The Traveling Wiillburys"
As for the rest,....
Reminds me of the arguments when a scammer tried to copyright the song
"Happy Birthday" a few years back.
And every kids birthday party was going to be raided by music industry
thugs, demanding royalties.
And then anyone wonders why P2P is being used by more and more people daily. |
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