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Fujikawa Yamamoto...
Posted: Tue Oct 13, 2009 1:25 am
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http://tinyurl.com/ykf5kzp

It's the quickest resolution in Hollywood history -- Paul Anka says the
special administrators of Michael Jackson's estate gave him a 50% cut of
"This Is It" ... after he said Michael "stole" the original recordings
from his studio back in the 80s.

Paul also said John McClain told him, "Now we know why the song was so
good ... it wasn't the type of Michael Jackson song that he could write."

Anka said he was humbled by the compliment.
 
Cazzawaw...
Posted: Tue Oct 13, 2009 1:25 am
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On Oct 13, 8:25 am, Fujikawa Yamamoto <am... at (no spam) now-flushed.org> wrote:
Quote:
http://tinyurl.com/ykf5kzp

It's the quickest resolution in Hollywood history -- Paul Anka says the
special administrators of Michael Jackson's estate gave him a 50% cut of
"This Is It" ... after he said Michael "stole" the original recordings
from his studio back in the 80s.

Paul also said John McClain told him, "Now we know why the song was so
good ... it wasn't the type of Michael Jackson song that he could write."

Anka said he was humbled by the compliment.

Nice to see Pedo Pan's executors have some honour, unlike Wacko, the
thieving bastard!
 
Hell Toupee...
Posted: Tue Oct 13, 2009 5:38 am
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Fujikawa Yamamoto wrote:
Quote:
http://tinyurl.com/ykf5kzp

It's the quickest resolution in Hollywood history -- Paul Anka says the
special administrators of Michael Jackson's estate gave him a 50% cut of
"This Is It" ... after he said Michael "stole" the original recordings
from his studio back in the 80s.

Paul also said John McClain told him, "Now we know why the song was so
good ... it wasn't the type of Michael Jackson song that he could write."

Anka said he was humbled by the compliment.

MJ got nailed for plagiarism in the past. It's a lot easier to get
away with when the person you steal from is a nobody, but even MJ
should've known you don't rip off established performers and get off
scot-free.

Okay, f'loons, tell us what a genius he is for ripping off Paul Anka.

Paul. Anka.

Mr. "You're Havin' My Baby" Anka.

Of all people to steal from, for chrissakes. And then to be told that
Anka's song was better than what MJ tended to write. Oof. Now _that's_
a snap.
 
Ancalime...
Posted: Tue Oct 13, 2009 7:14 am
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"Hell Toupee" <who at (no spam) menull.com> schrieb im Newsbeitrag
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Quote:
Fujikawa Yamamoto wrote:
http://tinyurl.com/ykf5kzp

It's the quickest resolution in Hollywood history -- Paul Anka says the
special administrators of Michael Jackson's estate gave him a 50% cut of
"This Is It" ... after he said Michael "stole" the original recordings
from his studio back in the 80s.

Paul also said John McClain told him, "Now we know why the song was so
good ... it wasn't the type of Michael Jackson song that he could write."

Anka said he was humbled by the compliment.

MJ got nailed for plagiarism in the past. It's a lot easier to get away
with when the person you steal from is a nobody, but even MJ should've
known you don't rip off established performers and get off scot-free.

Okay, f'loons, tell us what a genius he is for ripping off Paul Anka.

Paul. Anka.

Mr. "You're Havin' My Baby" Anka.

Of all people to steal from, for chrissakes. And then to be told that
Anka's song was better than what MJ tended to write. Oof. Now _that's_ a
snap.

Oh, it gets even better....according to the song's registry "This is it" was
a demo which was written by Michael Jackson in 1980, shelved, and in 1983
co-written with Paul Anka, shelved and later given to Safire under another
title. The claims are that Anka had to sign a NON-DISCLOSURE before
returning Jackson's recordings.

This is it / Michael Jackson.
Type of Work: Music
Registration Number / Date: PAu000668598 / 1984-11-16
Title: This is it / Michael Jackson.
Description: 1 sound cassette.
Copyright Claimant: Mijac Music
Date of Creation: 1980
Authorship on Application: words & music: Michael Jackson.

Names: Jackson, Michael
Mijac Music

---------

An interesting question would be from what version was the release of "This
is it" built, the co-written version or the original demo version? Probably
the co-written one because otherwise the Estate could have said that this
song is from 1980.

Apart from that, if that is the best song material they can pull off
archives then there isn't much hope in keeping up MJ so-called legacy as a
pioneer songwriter or whatever the hype goes;-)

Ancalime
 
JessicaG...
Posted: Tue Oct 13, 2009 7:15 am
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"Fujikawa Yamamoto" <amm-j at (no spam) now-flushed.org> wrote in message
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Quote:
http://tinyurl.com/ykf5kzp

It's the quickest resolution in Hollywood history -- Paul Anka says the
special administrators of Michael Jackson's estate gave him a 50% cut of
"This Is It" ... after he said Michael "stole" the original recordings
from his studio back in the 80s.

Paul also said John McClain told him, "Now we know why the song was so
good ... it wasn't the type of Michael Jackson song that he could write."

Anka said he was humbled by the compliment.

Well "stolen" isn't quite the right word. It turns out that Anka and Jackson
collaborated in 1983 and had a falling out and never published anything.
Anka got the master tapes. I'm guessing the Jacksons recently dug up old
copies and are now trying to make a buck out of it.

The stupidity lies in trying to market the song as new material and imply
that it was recorded just recently. They would have made a hell of a lot
more money by saying it was "NEWLY DISCOVERED SONG RECORDED OVER A QUARTER
CENTURY AGO!!!" or something like that. That would generate huge buzz and
oodles of cash.

Even dead, Jackson is still surrounded by incompetence.
 
Kris Baker...
Posted: Tue Oct 13, 2009 8:42 am
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"JessicaG" <jjjggg at (no spam) jotjail.com> wrote in message
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"Fujikawa Yamamoto" <amm-j at (no spam) now-flushed.org> wrote in message
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http://tinyurl.com/ykf5kzp

It's the quickest resolution in Hollywood history -- Paul Anka says the
special administrators of Michael Jackson's estate gave him a 50% cut of
"This Is It" ... after he said Michael "stole" the original recordings
from his studio back in the 80s.

Paul also said John McClain told him, "Now we know why the song was so
good ... it wasn't the type of Michael Jackson song that he could write."

Anka said he was humbled by the compliment.

Well "stolen" isn't quite the right word. It turns out that Anka and
Jackson collaborated in 1983 and had a falling out and never published
anything. Anka got the master tapes. I'm guessing the Jacksons recently
dug up old copies and are now trying to make a buck out of it.

The stupidity lies in trying to market the song as new material and imply
that it was recorded just recently. They would have made a hell of a lot
more money by saying it was "NEWLY DISCOVERED SONG RECORDED OVER A QUARTER
CENTURY AGO!!!" or something like that. That would generate huge buzz and
oodles of cash.

That wouldn't work. There's the 1991 Safire version that
many recognized right away. There's also the early-1980s
style, the lameness that didn't qualify it for any post-1983
Jackson album.

Plus, notice how it's been greeted by total yawns?

Jacko wasn't creative, nor was he inventive. He never came
up with anything new. It was the same stuff, over and over.

Without Quincy Jones, he'd be a fancy street dancer.

Kris
 
JessicaG...
Posted: Wed Oct 14, 2009 7:42 am
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Quote:
The stupidity lies in trying to market the song as new material and imply
that it was recorded just recently. They would have made a hell of a lot
more money by saying it was "NEWLY DISCOVERED SONG RECORDED OVER A
QUARTER CENTURY AGO!!!" or something like that. That would generate huge
buzz and oodles of cash.

That wouldn't work. There's the 1991 Safire version that
many recognized right away. There's also the early-1980s
style, the lameness that didn't qualify it for any post-1983
Jackson album.

Recognizing that it's the same as the Safire version doesn't matter since
the lame Jackson vocals pre-date it by a decade (with the brothers' vocals
thrown in for giggles).

I didnt mean to say they should have tricked buyers. I meant that they
obviously knew it wasn't a recent recording made just before he croaked as
they had implied. The fact that this drivel was made during his cash-cow
years would make it more sought after by die-hard fans, more so than
anything recently made.

Their marketing was deceptive and their efforts to promote the song as new
ironically lost them sales.

Quote:
Without Quincy Jones, he'd be a fancy street dancer.

ITA.
 
Kris Baker...
Posted: Wed Oct 14, 2009 9:06 am
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"JessicaG" <jjjggg at (no spam) jotjail.com> wrote in message
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Quote:
The stupidity lies in trying to market the song as new material and
imply that it was recorded just recently. They would have made a hell of
a lot more money by saying it was "NEWLY DISCOVERED SONG RECORDED OVER A
QUARTER CENTURY AGO!!!" or something like that. That would generate huge
buzz and oodles of cash.

That wouldn't work. There's the 1991 Safire version that
many recognized right away. There's also the early-1980s
style, the lameness that didn't qualify it for any post-1983
Jackson album.

Recognizing that it's the same as the Safire version doesn't matter since
the lame Jackson vocals pre-date it by a decade (with the brothers' vocals
thrown in for giggles).

I didnt mean to say they should have tricked buyers. I meant that they
obviously knew it wasn't a recent recording made just before he croaked as
they had implied. The fact that this drivel was made during his cash-cow
years would make it more sought after by die-hard fans, more so than
anything recently made.

Their marketing was deceptive and their efforts to promote the song as new
ironically lost them sales.

Without Quincy Jones, he'd be a fancy street dancer.

ITA.



Aha. I get you now. ITA, back at ya.

Kris
 
FishFood...
Posted: Wed Oct 14, 2009 3:19 pm
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JessicaG wrote:
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"Fujikawa Yamamoto" <amm-j at (no spam) now-flushed.org> wrote in message
news:4ad42b64$0$674$c5fe31e7 at (no spam) read01.usenet4all.se...
http://tinyurl.com/ykf5kzp

It's the quickest resolution in Hollywood history -- Paul Anka says the
special administrators of Michael Jackson's estate gave him a 50% cut of
"This Is It" ... after he said Michael "stole" the original recordings
from his studio back in the 80s.

Paul also said John McClain told him, "Now we know why the song was so
good ... it wasn't the type of Michael Jackson song that he could write."

Anka said he was humbled by the compliment.

Well "stolen" isn't quite the right word. It turns out that Anka and Jackson
collaborated in 1983 and had a falling out and never published anything.
Anka got the master tapes. I'm guessing the Jacksons recently dug up old
copies and are now trying to make a buck out of it.

The stupidity lies in trying to market the song as new material and imply
that it was recorded just recently. They would have made a hell of a lot
more money by saying it was "NEWLY DISCOVERED SONG RECORDED OVER A QUARTER
CENTURY AGO!!!" or something like that. That would generate huge buzz and
oodles of cash.

Even dead, Jackson is still surrounded by incompetence.




I wonder if Micheal was working on another try as the signature
tune for his comeback concerts?

I simply can't imagine Michael had this track planned. Also the
production of this doesn't come half way to what Micheal would
have done at this time. So the question is why didn't studios
make more of an effort to come up with something current?

Some amazing things are possible with todays tech, which means
if they had Michael's vocal track, they could have crafted
something in a more current style, or simply tightened up the
production and not simply lifted track for the words 'This is it'.

The bottom line is that Michael didn't use the track for a reason.

All of which leaves me wondering if anyone of any musical taste
is in control of Michael estate.
 
FishFood...
Posted: Wed Oct 14, 2009 3:19 pm
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JessicaG wrote:
Quote:
"Fujikawa Yamamoto" <amm-j at (no spam) now-flushed.org> wrote in message
news:4ad42b64$0$674$c5fe31e7 at (no spam) read01.usenet4all.se...
http://tinyurl.com/ykf5kzp

It's the quickest resolution in Hollywood history -- Paul Anka says the
special administrators of Michael Jackson's estate gave him a 50% cut of
"This Is It" ... after he said Michael "stole" the original recordings
from his studio back in the 80s.

Paul also said John McClain told him, "Now we know why the song was so
good ... it wasn't the type of Michael Jackson song that he could write."

Anka said he was humbled by the compliment.

Well "stolen" isn't quite the right word. It turns out that Anka and Jackson
collaborated in 1983 and had a falling out and never published anything.
Anka got the master tapes. I'm guessing the Jacksons recently dug up old
copies and are now trying to make a buck out of it.

The stupidity lies in trying to market the song as new material and imply
that it was recorded just recently. They would have made a hell of a lot
more money by saying it was "NEWLY DISCOVERED SONG RECORDED OVER A QUARTER
CENTURY AGO!!!" or something like that. That would generate huge buzz and
oodles of cash.

Even dead, Jackson is still surrounded by incompetence.




I wonder if Micheal was working on another track as the signature
tune for his comeback concerts?

I simply can't imagine Michael had this track planned. Also the
production of this doesn't come half way to what Micheal would
have done at this time. So the question is why didn't studios
make more of an effort to come up with something current?

Some amazing things are possible with todays tech, which means
if they had Michael's vocal track, they could have crafted
something in a more current style, or simply tightened up the
production and not simply lifted track for the words 'This is it'.

The bottom line is that Michael didn't use the track for a reason.

All of which leaves me wondering if anyone of any musical taste
is in control of Michael estate.
 
Cazzawaw...
Posted: Wed Oct 14, 2009 11:59 pm
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On Oct 14, 10:19 pm, FishFood <d... at (no spam) home.com> wrote:
Quote:
JessicaG wrote:
"Fujikawa Yamamoto" <am... at (no spam) now-flushed.org> wrote in message
news:4ad42b64$0$674$c5fe31e7 at (no spam) read01.usenet4all.se...
http://tinyurl.com/ykf5kzp

It's the quickest resolution in Hollywood history -- Paul Anka says the
special administrators of Michael Jackson's estate gave him a 50% cut of
"This Is It" ... after he said Michael "stole" the original recordings
from his studio back in the 80s.

Paul also said John McClain told him, "Now we know why the song was so
good ... it wasn't the type of Michael Jackson song that he could write."

Anka said he was humbled by the compliment.

Well "stolen" isn't quite the right word. It turns out that Anka and Jackson
collaborated in 1983 and had a falling out and never published anything..
Anka got the master tapes. I'm guessing the Jacksons recently dug up old
copies and are now trying to make a buck out of it.

The stupidity lies in trying to market the song as new material and imply
that it was recorded just recently. They would have made a hell of a lot
more money by saying it was "NEWLY DISCOVERED SONG RECORDED OVER A QUARTER
CENTURY AGO!!!" or something like that. That would generate huge buzz and
oodles of cash.

Even dead, Jackson is still surrounded by incompetence.

I wonder if Micheal was working on another track as the signature
tune for his comeback concerts?

I simply can't imagine Michael had this track planned. Also the
production of this doesn't come half way to what Micheal would
have done at this time. So the question is why didn't studios
make more of an effort to come up with something current?

Because the current stuff wacko had been working on was even more shit
than the Paul Anka song?

Quote:
Some amazing things are possible with todays tech, which means
if they had Michael's vocal track, they could have crafted
something in a more current style, or simply tightened up the
production and not simply lifted track for the words 'This is it'.

Yeah. They should have used all that tech to make Pedo Pan sound like
a decent singer with a decent song. Speaks volumes when it turns out,
even with all their tech, that they couldn't!

Quote:
The bottom line is that Michael didn't use the track for a reason.

Wacko hasn't put anything of substance out for nearly 2 decades.

Quote:
All of which leaves me wondering if anyone of any musical taste
is in control of Michael estate.-
 
Her Majesty...
Posted: Thu Oct 15, 2009 11:57 am
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On Oct 14, 2:19 pm, FishFood <d... at (no spam) home.com> wrote:

Quote:
I wonder if Micheal was working on another track as the signature
tune for his comeback concerts?

I simply can't imagine Michael had this track planned. Also the
production of this doesn't come half way to what Micheal would
have done at this time. So the question is why didn't studios
make more of an effort to come up with something current?

Patience, my friend!

Quote:
Some amazing things are possible with todays tech, which means
if they had Michael's vocal track, they could have crafted
something in a more current style, or simply tightened up the
production and not simply lifted track for the words 'This is it'.

The bottom line is that Michael didn't use the track for a reason.

All of which leaves me wondering if anyone of any musical taste
is in control of Michael estate.

He's hard to rival. At least Lennon had Yoko, who had similar
artistic sensibility, you know???
 
Crisstti...
Posted: Thu Oct 15, 2009 12:39 pm
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On Oct 15, 6:57 pm, Her Majesty <nicholecho... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:
Quote:
On Oct 14, 2:19 pm, FishFood <d... at (no spam) home.com> wrote:

I wonder if Micheal was working on another track as the signature
tune for his comeback concerts?

I simply can't imagine Michael had this track planned. Also the
production of this doesn't come half way to what Micheal would
have done at this time. So the question is why didn't studios
make more of an effort to come up with something current?

Patience, my friend!

Some amazing things are possible with todays tech, which means
if they had Michael's vocal track, they could have crafted
something in a more current style, or simply tightened up the
production and not simply lifted track for the words 'This is it'.

The bottom line is that Michael didn't use the track for a reason.

All of which leaves me wondering if anyone of any musical taste
is in control of Michael estate.

He's hard to rival.  At least Lennon had Yoko, who had similar
artistic sensibility, you know???

They obviously just issued that song because it has the words "this is
it" in it.
 
FishFood...
Posted: Thu Oct 15, 2009 1:38 pm
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Cazzawaw wrote:
Quote:
On Oct 14, 10:19 pm, FishFood <d... at (no spam) home.com> wrote:

Wacko hasn't put anything of substance out for nearly 2 decades.

Actually there were quite a few tracks on Invisible which
even Quincy would have loved. Go listen to those tracks on
that album by 'Dr Freeze'.

Quote:

All of which leaves me wondering if anyone of any musical taste
is in control of Michael estate.-
 
2nz...
Posted: Thu Oct 15, 2009 3:20 pm
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On Oct 15, 3:57 pm, Her Majesty <nicholecho... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:

Quote:
 At least Lennon had Yoko, who had similar
artistic sensibility, you know???

Oh yeah. I'm especially fond of her tender love ballads.
I love the one that goes,
"Fix the sky AAAAAAHHHHHHH EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!
Rope the sea YAAAAAAAAAA. Waaaa Waaaa EEEEHHH!
Bend the wind OOOOOOOOK! Yiiiiiiii WAHHHHHHHHHHHH!
Melt a tree PFFFFFFFT! GAAAAAAAA! YEEEEEEEEEEE!
WAWAWAWAWAWAAAA YOWWWWWWWWWWWW!"
 
 
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