tom_... at (no spam) juno.com wrote:
It's almost like the what if JP did an album about equal to PK when
they did AoR, would it have made much difference in total sold? I
believe the answer we all pretty much agreed on was that it probably
wouldn't have made much of a difference.

Tom

A couple "what if" questions for Wyrd.

I don't know, if Priest had pulled a Painkiller out of their hats and
add that to the publicity and newness of Halford's return they might
of got (for today) some high numbers. I don't believe even a cd equal
in quality to Painkiller would bring them much more sales today than
they already enjoy.

  Perhaps maybe it might have moved a bit more the first week, but I
assume it's sales would probably about equal what AoR did. (providing
that the album is a PK near equal released in place of AoR)
  As for if they did it in place of Nostra? I think the same. Bad
economy, bad unemployment, less and less people bothering to buy CD's
and there you go. We already know quality does not = bigger sales in
music.

Did Turbo outsell Painkiller?

This is the amount of listeners they have...and is worldwide. Stats
presumably go back to when Lastfm was created a few years back...their songs
have been listened to 13 million times. Helloween are still a very big band
in Europe, they chart in most countries and play fairly big halls.

 I don't know what else they can do to let people know a band is
working on and recording a new album. Seems like MD is on BM every
day, and generally, if you're a fan of a band, and still interested,
you know these sort of things.

I think a band like Metallica just have a lot of casual fans, sort of people
that only buy a handful of new albums a year and only by bands they
recognise or get shoved down their throats.

 As for if they did it in place of Nostra? I think the same. Bad
economy, bad unemployment, less and less people bothering to buy CD's
and there you go. We already know quality does not = bigger sales in
music.

Tom

I bought 7 cds today and have 6 on order that should show up this week. I
guess I'm going againt the grain. I also bought the Brutal Legend game
(which is rather fun). Bad economy or not, I need my Metal!

Mustaine is dreaming if he thinks he can ever achieve mainstream
success again, that said there is a whole new form of distribution and
promotion model emerging and there are tons of old people who dont
have the time or inclination to follow the metal scene like us old
people.  face it we are freaks,

most people our age grew out of their
passion for metal, which is a shame but true.  Megadeth was on late
night talk shows and they are on iTunes, so it's not like they are
underground, even in their commercial hey day the only song they had a
hit with was Countdown to Extinction.

Perhaps they were bigger in the UK than the States...they had top 50 hits
with every single from Mary Jane through to A Tout le Monde here I believe,
the two from Countdown being the biggest hits. RiP, CtE and Youth were all
top 10 in the album charts. The last couple of Megadeth albums have charted
in the 20`s here...whereas the previous couple were around 60 odd...so
things have clearly got a lot better.

  As for if they did it in place of Nostra? I think the same. Bad
economy, bad unemployment, less and less people bothering to buy CD's
and there you go. We already know quality does not = bigger sales in
music.

Did Turbo outsell Painkiller?

Did Turbo outsell Painkiller?

yes, it was all down hill as far as sales go after Turbo.  Turbo,
despite being a terrible record was hugely popular in the US.

As for if they did it in place of Nostra? I think the same. Bad
economy, bad unemployment, less and less people bothering to buy CD's
and there you go. We already know quality does not = bigger sales in
music.

Tom

I bought 7 cds today and have 6 on order that should show up this week. I
guess I'm going againt the grain. I also bought the Brutal Legend game
(which is rather fun). Bad economy or not, I need my Metal!

I haven't bought a number like that in one day. I have bought 7 or 8
the past month with 3 on order.

Tom

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On Oct 16, 6:44 pm, "Bomber" <bom... at (no spam) bomber.bomb> wrote:

If Roadrunner spent 10 million bucks on advertising this album, the sale
numbers would be the same. He can't seem to understand ( or accept) that
he'll never sell Metallica numbers. He should be happy to sell as much as
he
did.

As if RR would spend 10 million on ads. I doubt they outlay that
much for their whole company in ads.I don't know how much more in
sales he would get if they did outlay a lot more cash. Probably as you
said, What's the fan base for a band many old time fans probably
forgot about 15-20 years ago?

Megadeth have 591,000 listeners on lastfm. Comapred to some of their 80`s
contemporaries...Slayer 551,000, Anthrax 349,000, Metallica 1.46M, Maiden
936,000, Testament 227,000, Priest 550,000, Motley Crue 411,000, W.A.S.P.
228,000, Manowar 318,000, Helloween 328,000, Exodus 149,000...

For me, Megadeth have 103 plays and Metallica have 0 (this year). I guess
I'm not contributing much to their numbers. Since charts are always fun:

Slayer - 186
Anthrax - 45
Testament - 85
Maiden - 320
Priest - 518
Motley Crue - 0
WASP - 55
Manowar - 15
Helloween - 280
Exodus - 40

I bought 7 cds today and have 6 on order that should show up this week. I
guess I'm going againt the grain. I also bought the Brutal Legend game
(which is rather fun). Bad economy or not, I need my Metal!
 I haven't bought a number like that in one day. I have bought 7 or 8
the past month with 3 on order.

Tom

6 Were used. That helped.

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On Oct 16, 6:44 pm, "Bomber" <bom... at (no spam) bomber.bomb> wrote:

If Roadrunner spent 10 million bucks on advertising this album, the sale
numbers would be the same. He can't seem to understand ( or accept) that
he'll never sell Metallica numbers. He should be happy to sell as much as
he
did.

 As if RR would spend 10 million on ads. I doubt they outlay that
much for their whole company in ads.I don't know how much more in
sales he would get if they did outlay a lot more cash. Probably as you
said, What's the fan base for a band many old time fans probably
forgot about 15-20 years ago?

Megadeth have 591,000 listeners on lastfm. Comapred to some of their 80`s
contemporaries...Slayer 551,000, Anthrax 349,000, Metallica 1.46M, Maiden
936,000, Testament 227,000, Priest 550,000, Motley Crue 411,000, W.A.S.P.
228,000, Manowar 318,000, Helloween 328,000, Exodus 149,000...

For me, Megadeth have 103 plays and Metallica have 0 (this year). I guess
I'm not contributing much to their numbers. Since charts are always fun:

Slayer - 186
Anthrax - 45
Testament - 85
Maiden - 320
Priest - 518
Motley Crue - 0
WASP - 55
Manowar - 15
Helloween - 280
Exodus - 40

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On Oct 16, 6:44 pm, "Bomber" <bom... at (no spam) bomber.bomb> wrote:

If Roadrunner spent 10 million bucks on advertising this album, the
sale
numbers would be the same. He can't seem to understand ( or accept)
that
he'll never sell Metallica numbers. He should be happy to sell as much
as
he
did.

As if RR would spend 10 million on ads. I doubt they outlay that
much for their whole company in ads.I don't know how much more in
sales he would get if they did outlay a lot more cash. Probably as you
said, What's the fan base for a band many old time fans probably
forgot about 15-20 years ago?

Megadeth have 591,000 listeners on lastfm. Comapred to some of their
80`s
contemporaries...Slayer 551,000, Anthrax 349,000, Metallica 1.46M,
Maiden
936,000, Testament 227,000, Priest 550,000, Motley Crue 411,000,
W.A.S.P.
228,000, Manowar 318,000, Helloween 328,000, Exodus 149,000...

For me, Megadeth have 103 plays and Metallica have 0 (this year). I guess
I'm not contributing much to their numbers. Since charts are always fun:

Slayer - 186
Anthrax - 45
Testament - 85
Maiden - 320
Priest - 518
Motley Crue - 0
WASP - 55
Manowar - 15
Helloween - 280
Exodus - 40

So you're one of those tilting Helloween upward. I hope it's mostly
the Keys albums and not some of the horrible later albums I've heard,
and some I have only heard are said to be bad, but no first hand
experience.

Tom

I bought 7 cds today and have 6 on order that should show up this week.
I
guess I'm going againt the grain. I also bought the Brutal Legend game
(which is rather fun). Bad economy or not, I need my Metal!
I haven't bought a number like that in one day. I have bought 7 or 8
the past month with 3 on order.

Tom

6 Were used. That helped.

Sometimes that is the only way you can find certain older CD's long
out of print.

Tom

 So you're one of those tilting Helloween upward. I hope it's mostly
the Keys albums and not some of the horrible later albums I've heard,
and some I have only heard are said to be bad, but no first hand
experience.

Tom

Of the 9 albums they've released since Keepers II, I think 3 of them aren't
very good.