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joe line...
Posted: Sun Oct 04, 2009 9:22 am
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In the latest RWCC Newsletter 2009 Wakeman and Anderson are attacking
Yes, see following -

'I have been getting more than a few people asking me what "we" are
going to be performing at the YES concerts in the UK in November and
am getting some startled responses when I tell them that neither Jon
nor myself are anything to do with the current tour and that we are
both very unhappy that they are advertising the tour as YES and not
even having the courtesy or guts to list the line-up, which is nothing
short of deception.'

Yes is all over now, HSW have jumped into the life rafts Titantic
style as they watch the ship go down, the last of their fans with
it. What has become of this once untouchable band?
 
True...
Posted: Sun Oct 04, 2009 2:44 pm
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On Oct 4, 3:22 pm, joe line <joe.kis... at (no spam) yahoo.com> wrote:
Quote:
In the latest RWCC Newsletter 2009 Wakeman and Anderson are attacking
Yes, see following -

'I have been getting more than a few people asking me what "we" are
going to be performing at the YES concerts in the UK in November and
am getting some startled responses when I tell them that neither Jon
nor myself are anything to do with the current tour and that we are
both very unhappy that they are advertising the tour as YES and not
even having the courtesy or guts to list the line-up, which is nothing
short of deception.'

Yes is all over now, HSW have jumped into the life rafts Titantic
style as they watch the ship go down, the last of their fans with
it.   What has become of this once untouchable band?

Interesting - I'd figured Wakeman was not too unhappy since Oliver was
his replacement. I suppose it's possible that it's the promoters who
are the ones with the shady presentation - but I'd also guess that the
touring members would be able to have some control over that and be
sure that the billing lists the members.
I do agree - it seems the band as we knew it may be over forever now,
assuming that Anderson can not sing as he used to. The youtube clips
of his Euro dates show he's a long way from his old voice, so
unfortunately it may be over indeed. Eight years have passed since
Magnification, plenty of time to write some songs, but the recent
things to emerge (Aliens, Music is the God of the World) make rejected
tunes like "Abilene", "Money" or "Go Through This" sound relatively
strong.
 
paul...
Posted: Sun Oct 04, 2009 4:35 pm
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On Oct 5, 8:22 am, joe line <joe.kis... at (no spam) yahoo.com> wrote:
Quote:
In the latest RWCC Newsletter 2009 Wakeman and Anderson are attacking
Yes, see following -

'I have been getting more than a few people asking me what "we" are
going to be performing at the YES concerts in the UK in November and
am getting some startled responses when I tell them that neither Jon
nor myself are anything to do with the current tour and that we are
both very unhappy that they are advertising the tour as YES and not
even having the courtesy or guts to list the line-up, which is nothing
short of deception.'

Yes is all over now, HSW have jumped into the life rafts Titantic
style as they watch the ship go down, the last of their fans with
it.   What has become of this once untouchable band?

Wakeman Snr needs to stop being so petty and realize that the band are
well within their rights to call themselves Yes without him, or Jon,
in the lineup. The last time either of them was in the band was 5
years ago. So, get over yourself Mr "I'm not in if Jons not in"
Wakeup.

p
 
Chet...
Posted: Sun Oct 04, 2009 7:07 pm
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Re: Wakeman and Anderson's view of the tour

Group: alt.music.yes Date: Sun, Oct 4, 2009, 5:44pm From: yes at (no spam) ulinx.com
(True)
On Oct 4, 3:22 pm, joe line <joe.kis... at (no spam) yahoo.com> wrote:
In the latest RWCC Newsletter 2009 Wakeman and Anderson are attacking
Yes, see following -
'I have been getting more than a few people asking me what "we" are
going to be performing at the YES concerts in the UK in November and am
getting some startled responses when I tell them that neither Jon nor
myself are anything to do with the current tour and that we are both
very unhappy that they are advertising the tour as YES and not even
having the courtesy or guts to list the line-up, which is nothing short
of deception.'
Yes is all over now, HSW have jumped into the life rafts Titantic style
as they watch the ship go down, the last of their fans with it.   What
has become of this once untouchable band?
Interesting - I'd figured Wakeman was not too unhappy since Oliver was
his replacement. I suppose it's possible that it's the promoters who are
the ones with the shady presentation - but I'd also guess that the
touring members would be able to have some control over that and be sure
that the billing lists the members.


I do agree - it seems the band as we knew it may be over forever now,
assuming that Anderson can not sing as he used to. The youtube clips of
his Euro dates show he's a long way from his old voice, so unfortunately
it may be over indeed. Eight years have passed since Magnification,
plenty of time to write some songs, but the recent things to emerge
(Aliens, Music is the God of the World) make rejected tunes like
"Abilene", "Money" or "Go Through This" sound relatively strong.
---

Why shouldn't they sing about aliens? Isn't music the god of the world?
Why can't Jon say so? Aren't these songs an expression of freedom? Is
freedom a bad thing where you live? John Lennon was a freedom fighter
too. ....and black Jimi didn't dress like a slob
 
Chet...
Posted: Sun Oct 04, 2009 9:25 pm
Guest
Spielberg was trying to tell you that music is god of the
universe....but so? Music is how the ufos had energy. Music made
Olias's ship levitate. .....music makes people's butt levitate
....invisible power that science can't measure
 
Mark Scalise...
Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2009 6:35 am
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On Oct 4, 3:22 pm, joe line <joe.kis... at (no spam) yahoo.com> wrote:
Quote:
In the latest RWCC Newsletter 2009 Wakeman and Anderson are attacking
Yes, see following -

'I have been getting more than a few people asking me what "we" are
going to be performing at the YES concerts in the UK in November and
am getting some startled responses when I tell them that neither Jon
nor myself are anything to do with the current tour and that we are
both very unhappy that they are advertising the tour as YES and not
even having the courtesy or guts to list the line-up, which is nothing
short of deception.'

Yes is all over now, HSW have jumped into the life rafts Titantic
style as they watch the ship go down, the last of their fans with
it.   What has become of this once untouchable band?

Goes back to the same argument of what/who makes it Yes or not. I
usually say it needs to have Anderson, Howe, and Squire, but with the
passing of years I've come to enjoy most of 90125, and do consider it
Yes even without Steve. So much for consistency!
 
Chet...
Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2009 1:03 pm
Guest
WAKEMAN ANDERSON HOWE WHITE SQUIRE, NEED TO GO TO CANADA AND GET VERY,
VERY, HIGH. IF THAT DOESN'T HELP THEY MIGHT AS WELL QUIT THEIR JOB.
 
bubba...
Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2009 3:30 pm
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On Oct 5, 2:03 pm, TheTimeTrave... at (no spam) webtv.net (Chet) wrote:
Quote:
WAKEMAN ANDERSON HOWE WHITE SQUIRE, NEED TO GO TO CANADA AND GET VERY,
VERY, HIGH.  IF THAT DOESN'T HELP THEY MIGHT AS WELL QUIT THEIR JOB.

mm drugs are always the answer. welcome to the dark side chet
 
Henry Potts...
Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2009 8:52 pm
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paul <redmooncreat... at (no spam) xtra.co.nz> wrote [...]
Quote:
Also, the bands official site, Yesworld, clearly states who the
current members of the band are AND that Jon is _not_ doing this tour.
Also, many of the European ticket sellers have a link to Yesworld AND
numerous of them list the names of the touring band. I'm not sure what
else Yes could do?

At least one UK venue read out the current line-up if you bought your
ticket over the phone! So, I agree with you that Rick may be
overreacting.
--
Henry
 
Chet...
Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2009 11:11 pm
Guest
So is Wakeman or Anderson ever going to work with YES again or not?
Have they quit their job? What ever happened to *You'll see perpetual
change
 
robmtsd at (no spam) aol.com...
Posted: Tue Oct 06, 2009 3:29 am
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On Oct 5, 11:52�pm, Henry Potts <use... at (no spam) bondegezou.demon.co.uk> wrote:
Quote:
paul <redmooncreat... at (no spam) xtra.co.nz> wrote [...]

Also, the bands official site, Yesworld, clearly states who the
current members of the band are AND that Jon is _not_ doing this tour.
Also, many of the European ticket sellers have a link to Yesworld AND
numerous of them list the names of the touring band. I'm not sure what
else Yes could do?

At least one UK venue read out the current line-up if you bought your
ticket over the phone! So, I agree with you that Rick may be
overreacting.


I'll guess the venue looked to avoid customers being unhappy with
them. They might imagine a situation similar to that of the unhappy
movie-goer, who looks to get their money back from the theater, after
walking out on a stinker.

Obviously, if it's down to the venue to call this up, Wakeman is
exactly right in his position that the band is not being upfront with
it's customers.


Rob Allen
NP: David Gray, "Babylon"
 
bubba...
Posted: Tue Oct 06, 2009 4:50 am
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On Oct 6, 12:11 am, TheTimeTrave... at (no spam) webtv.net (Chet) wrote:
Quote:
So is Wakeman or Anderson ever going to work with YES again or not?
Have they quit their job?  What ever happened to *You'll see perpetual
change

Playing for Yes was never Wakeman's job. He has always been a session
man.
 
Bill...
Posted: Tue Oct 06, 2009 8:23 am
Guest
I know I'm late to this thread, but just adding that I think it is
somewhat bizarre that Rick is complaining, considering he got his son
hired to cover his spot. Yes, he's loyal to Jon, but..... anyway,
what's the UK tour, an entire 7 dates?

Besides, I thought the "is Rick playing with them?" was the usual tour
question (which I've heard from casual fans), given his revolving door
history and fame. One could say that Rick's limited retirement overall
and full retirement from Yes (unless there are "$pecial date$") hasn't
been well publicized.


Bill
 
robmtsd at (no spam) aol.com...
Posted: Tue Oct 06, 2009 9:05 am
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On Oct 6, 11:23�am, Bill <video... at (no spam) aol.com> wrote:
Quote:
I know I'm late to this thread, but just adding that I think it is
somewhat bizarre that Rick is complaining, considering he got his son
hired to cover his spot. Yes, he's loyal to Jon, but..... � anyway,
what's the UK tour, an entire 7 dates?


intially, I'm sure he thought it fine so long as *someone* named
Wakeman was playing keys. Of course it's true that he was playing
along with the first bait and switch routine Yes tried to pull, before
JA pulled out. So it's a more heinous bait and switch with the
tribute lineup, but yeah, it's only one Jon Anderson short of what
Wakeman had already given his blessings.

But seven dates? Let's see...I guess that means less than 10K total
attendance. Not really very many people to be bummed out by
"Yes"...and for sure ~some~ of them will like it!


Quote:
Besides, I thought the "is Rick playing with them?" was the usual tour
question (which I've heard from casual fans), given his revolving door
history and fame. One could say that Rick's limited retirement overall
and full retirement from Yes (unless there are "$pecial date$") hasn't
been well publicized.


waitaminnit...hasn't there been like *five years* for the masses to
research this?


Rob "*everybody* doesn't already know?" Allen
 
robmtsd at (no spam) aol.com...
Posted: Tue Oct 06, 2009 10:33 am
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On Oct 6, 1:10�pm, TheTimeTrave... at (no spam) webtv.net (Chet) wrote:

Quote:
I had those records but they got lost in all this mess somewhere. �(I'm
too laidback to do housework)


did you check under the drivers seat? How about under the floormats?

Geez, man, how hard can it be to keep a clean bus?



Quote:
They wanted to be Steve Howe? �


I doubt that...I think it was just more about playing guitar.


Quote:
Howe could they be? �Good thing he
decided to keep his job afterall.


right, but as it goes, after loafing his way through a few records and
a bunch of tours, it sounds like he finally decided to actually do
some real work. Too bad he had such a hard time doing that for
Yes...and a bit shameful that he thinks it ok to finally show up in
"Yes".


Rob "*Steve Howe*" Allen
 
 
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