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Cornholio...
Posted: Wed Sep 23, 2009 5:52 pm
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Are there any bands you feel that are overrated that most metalheads are
into? I can only think of one at the moment and that would be Pantera
and while I do like them I feel they are hugely overrated and assigned
too much importance. As for the other bands that are generally liked by
metalheads I feel they deserve it.
 
TJ Xenos...
Posted: Wed Sep 23, 2009 5:52 pm
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On Sep 23, 7:52 pm, Cornholio <t... at (no spam) mybunghole.net> wrote:
Quote:
Are there any bands you feel that are overrated that most metalheads are
into? I can only think of one at the moment and that would be Pantera
and while I do like them I feel they are hugely overrated and assigned
too much importance. As for the other bands that are generally liked by
metalheads I feel they deserve it.

pantera
at the gates
metallica
in flames
dark tranquility
edge of sanity
neverbore
opeth
mastodon
testament
megadeth
anthrax
Judas Priest
Iron Maiden with Bruce
 
Cornholio...
Posted: Wed Sep 23, 2009 8:09 pm
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TJ Xenos wrote:
Quote:
On Sep 23, 7:52 pm, Cornholio <t... at (no spam) mybunghole.net> wrote:
Are there any bands you feel that are overrated that most metalheads are
into? I can only think of one at the moment and that would be Pantera
and while I do like them I feel they are hugely overrated and assigned
too much importance. As for the other bands that are generally liked by
metalheads I feel they deserve it.

pantera
at the gates
metallica
in flames
dark tranquility
edge of sanity
neverbore
opeth
mastodon
testament
megadeth
anthrax
Judas Priest
Iron Maiden with Bruce

I agree about Pantera and Mastodon that's about it.
 
audiophile...
Posted: Wed Sep 23, 2009 8:48 pm
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On Sep 23, 10:09 pm, Cornholio <t... at (no spam) mybunghole.net> wrote:
Quote:
TJ Xenos wrote:
On Sep 23, 7:52 pm, Cornholio <t... at (no spam) mybunghole.net> wrote:
Are there any bands you feel that are overrated that most metalheads are
into? I can only think of one at the moment and that would be Pantera
and while I do like them I feel they are hugely overrated and assigned
too much importance. As for the other bands that are generally liked by
metalheads I feel they deserve it.

pantera
at the gates
metallica
in flames
dark tranquility
edge of sanity
neverbore
opeth
mastodon
testament
megadeth
anthrax
Judas Priest
Iron Maiden with Bruce

I agree about Pantera and Mastodon that's about it.

Come on, man. Metallica is just about the most overrated metal band on
the planet.

e.
--
they are not the flagbearers of metal!
 
Wyrd...
Posted: Wed Sep 23, 2009 9:10 pm
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On Sep 24, 2:31 am, TJ Xenos <talvi... at (no spam) aol.com> wrote:
Quote:
On Sep 23, 7:52 pm, Cornholio <t... at (no spam) mybunghole.net> wrote:

Are there any bands you feel that are overrated that most metalheads are
into? I can only think of one at the moment and that would be Pantera
and while I do like them I feel they are hugely overrated and assigned
too much importance. As for the other bands that are generally liked by
metalheads I feel they deserve it.

pantera
at the gates
metallica
in flames
dark tranquility
edge of sanity
neverbore
opeth
mastodon
testament
megadeth
anthrax
Judas Priest
Iron Maiden with Bruce

Trolling once again.

E.
 
dclizardking...
Posted: Wed Sep 23, 2009 9:33 pm
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On 24 Sep, 00:52, Cornholio <t... at (no spam) mybunghole.net> wrote:
Quote:
Are there any bands you feel that are overrated that most metalheads are
into? I can only think of one at the moment and that would be Pantera
and while I do like them I feel they are hugely overrated and assigned
too much importance. As for the other bands that are generally liked by
metalheads I feel they deserve it.

Surely every commercial popular metal band can be described as
overrated, as much as I might love Iron Maiden, Metallica, Slayer,
Opeth etc they're all overrated, conversely very few bands can be
termed as underrated.
 
Wyrd...
Posted: Wed Sep 23, 2009 9:43 pm
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On Sep 24, 8:33 am, dclizardking <dclizardk... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:
Quote:
On 24 Sep, 00:52, Cornholio <t... at (no spam) mybunghole.net> wrote:

Are there any bands you feel that are overrated that most metalheads are
into? I can only think of one at the moment and that would be Pantera
and while I do like them I feel they are hugely overrated and assigned
too much importance. As for the other bands that are generally liked by
metalheads I feel they deserve it.

Surely every commercial popular metal band can be described as
overrated, as much as I might love Iron Maiden, Metallica, Slayer,
Opeth etc they're all overrated, conversely very few bands can be
termed as underrated.

I can't see why commercial success has anything to do with how an
individual rates a band. Going by the definition "to rate or appraise
too highly", personally I don't think a lot of the bands listed are
over-rated. Is being popular a crime (I am ignoring TJ's views on
this). Maiden, Metallica, Slayer, Opeth are all popular, but all four
have produced music that is classic and should all be held in high
regard.

E.
--
Over-rated is over-rated
 
dclizardking...
Posted: Wed Sep 23, 2009 10:19 pm
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On 24 Sep, 08:43, Wyrd <Wyr... at (no spam) hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
Quote:
On Sep 24, 8:33 am, dclizardking <dclizardk... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:

On 24 Sep, 00:52, Cornholio <t... at (no spam) mybunghole.net> wrote:

Are there any bands you feel that are overrated that most metalheads are
into? I can only think of one at the moment and that would be Pantera
and while I do like them I feel they are hugely overrated and assigned
too much importance. As for the other bands that are generally liked by
metalheads I feel they deserve it.

Surely every commercial popular metal band can be described as
overrated, as much as I might love Iron Maiden, Metallica, Slayer,
Opeth etc they're all overrated, conversely very few bands can be
termed as underrated.

I can't see why commercial success has anything to do with how an
individual rates a band.  Going by the definition "to rate or appraise
too highly", personally I don't think a lot of the bands listed are
over-rated.  Is being popular a crime (I am ignoring TJ's views on
this).  Maiden, Metallica, Slayer, Opeth are all popular, but all four
have produced music that is classic and should all be held in high
regard.

E.
--
Over-rated is over-rated

I see what you're saying, however how often have we seen those same
bands receive rave reviews for weaker albums purely because of their
name. I'm particularly reminded of St Anger, some later Slayer albums,
and of course some of Maiden's later albums, and as much as I'm an
opeth fanboi, albums like Ghost Reveries have received great critical
acclaim when they were perhaps slightly below what is expected of the
band.
 
Wyrd...
Posted: Thu Sep 24, 2009 2:07 am
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On Sep 24, 9:19 am, dclizardking <dclizardk... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:
Quote:
On 24 Sep, 08:43, Wyrd <Wyr... at (no spam) hotmail.co.uk> wrote:



On Sep 24, 8:33 am, dclizardking <dclizardk... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:

On 24 Sep, 00:52, Cornholio <t... at (no spam) mybunghole.net> wrote:

Are there any bands you feel that are overrated that most metalheads are
into? I can only think of one at the moment and that would be Pantera
and while I do like them I feel they are hugely overrated and assigned
too much importance. As for the other bands that are generally liked by
metalheads I feel they deserve it.

Surely every commercial popular metal band can be described as
overrated, as much as I might love Iron Maiden, Metallica, Slayer,
Opeth etc they're all overrated, conversely very few bands can be
termed as underrated.

I can't see why commercial success has anything to do with how an
individual rates a band.  Going by the definition "to rate or appraise
too highly", personally I don't think a lot of the bands listed are
over-rated.  Is being popular a crime (I am ignoring TJ's views on
this).  Maiden, Metallica, Slayer, Opeth are all popular, but all four
have produced music that is classic and should all be held in high
regard.

E.
--
Over-rated is over-rated

I see what you're saying, however how often have we seen those same
bands receive rave reviews for weaker albums purely because of their
name. I'm particularly reminded of St Anger, some later Slayer albums,
and of course some of Maiden's later albums, and as much as I'm an
opeth fanboi, albums like Ghost Reveries have received great critical
acclaim when they were perhaps slightly below what is expected of the
band.

Well that's journalists for you, who are in a business of selling
magazines, or in recent years, attracting people to their review web-
sites. So to give big names good reviews will sell magazines and keep
people buying on a regular basis.

As for Opeth I have seen split opinions, both on the web and in
magazines as to what's decent and what's below par. Personally I
regard GR as a quality release that is up to standard. I have never
really seen a consensus as to the classic Opeth album like there is
with Metallica (MoP), Slayer (RiB), Maiden (TNotB). As for Opeth I
have seen BP, GR and Watershed all been given as their best.

I have also seen Opeth named as the 'future' of metal, along side
Meshuggah, which I think is slightly OTT. Now for me Meshuggah are
over-rated, but that's because I just can't see what all the fuss is
about, same with bands like Tool and Muse. However am I (and others)
just using the term 'over-rated' for bands I just don't like.

E.
--
 
Wyrd...
Posted: Thu Sep 24, 2009 5:11 am
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On Sep 24, 4:01 pm, "Soze" <I... at (no spam) salsbury42.freeserve.co.uk> wrote:
Quote:
"Wyrd" <Wyr... at (no spam) hotmail.co.uk> wrote in message

news:eaab8c80-9d8e-4c12-a084-bd5f2fefcb5d at (no spam) e18g2000vbe.googlegroups.com...
On Sep 24, 9:19 am, dclizardking <dclizardk... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:

I have also seen Opeth named as the 'future' of metal, along side
Meshuggah, which I think is slightly OTT.  Now for me Meshuggah are
over-rated, but that's because I just can't see what all the fuss is
about, same with bands like Tool and Muse.  However am I (and others)
just using the term 'over-rated' for bands I just don't like.

Basically then I `ll just list bands I don`t care for that themetal world at
large seems to...

Pantera & Motorhead ( I like some of their classics but the bulk of their
back catalogue *shrugs with indifference* ) spring to mind.

I can go with these two, even though I do like a couple of albums from
each.
Quote:

From my chosen genres ( there`s really no point in me listing loads of
grunge or stoner bands as I don`t like those genres in the first place ) I
can`t think of too many acclaimed thrash bands that I don`t like...I don`t
think Forbidden are as good as some do but generally I love all the classic
thrash stuff.
Death metal - Cannibal Corpse really aren`t all that...and from black metal
I guess I`d have to go with Burzum and Mayhem.

Never liked Burzum even when I did like BM
Quote:

Melodeath....Edge of Sanity I suppose although outside of this group I`m not
sure how much they`re rated anyway. The best melodeath is still early IF,
AtG and DT. I`m nowhere near as bowled over by Insomnium as E and many
others are ( although I do like them ).

Insomnium just tick all the boxes I want from MDM and do it in a very
professional and polished way.
Quote:

Machine Head are a band that seem to have suddenly become legends of the
metal scene despite the fact the bulk of their back catalogue is either
boring or absolute crap.

One or two albums I like, but nothing really to excited about.

E.
--
 
Soze...
Posted: Thu Sep 24, 2009 9:01 am
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"Wyrd" <Wyrd05 at (no spam) hotmail.co.uk> wrote in message
news:eaab8c80-9d8e-4c12-a084-bd5f2fefcb5d at (no spam) e18g2000vbe.googlegroups.com...
On Sep 24, 9:19 am, dclizardking <dclizardk... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:

Quote:
I have also seen Opeth named as the 'future' of metal, along side
Meshuggah, which I think is slightly OTT. Now for me Meshuggah are
over-rated, but that's because I just can't see what all the fuss is
about, same with bands like Tool and Muse. However am I (and others)
just using the term 'over-rated' for bands I just don't like.

Basically then I `ll just list bands I don`t care for that themetal world at
large seems to...

Pantera & Motorhead ( I like some of their classics but the bulk of their
back catalogue *shrugs with indifference* ) spring to mind.

From my chosen genres ( there`s really no point in me listing loads of
grunge or stoner bands as I don`t like those genres in the first place ) I
can`t think of too many acclaimed thrash bands that I don`t like...I don`t
think Forbidden are as good as some do but generally I love all the classic
thrash stuff.
Death metal - Cannibal Corpse really aren`t all that...and from black metal
I guess I`d have to go with Burzum and Mayhem.

Melodeath....Edge of Sanity I suppose although outside of this group I`m not
sure how much they`re rated anyway. The best melodeath is still early IF,
AtG and DT. I`m nowhere near as bowled over by Insomnium as E and many
others are ( although I do like them ).

Machine Head are a band that seem to have suddenly become legends of the
metal scene despite the fact the bulk of their back catalogue is either
boring or absolute crap.
 
tom_w_b at (no spam) juno.com...
Posted: Thu Sep 24, 2009 1:33 pm
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On Sep 24, 1:43 am, Wyrd <Wyr... at (no spam) hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
Quote:
On Sep 24, 8:33 am, dclizardking <dclizardk... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:

On 24 Sep, 00:52, Cornholio <t... at (no spam) mybunghole.net> wrote:

Are there any bands you feel that are overrated that most metalheads are
into? I can only think of one at the moment and that would be Pantera
and while I do like them I feel they are hugely overrated and assigned
too much importance. As for the other bands that are generally liked by
metalheads I feel they deserve it.

Surely every commercial popular metal band can be described as
overrated, as much as I might love Iron Maiden, Metallica, Slayer,
Opeth etc they're all overrated, conversely very few bands can be
termed as underrated.

I can't see why commercial success has anything to do with how an
individual rates a band.  Going by the definition "to rate or appraise
too highly", personally I don't think a lot of the bands listed are
over-rated.  Is being popular a crime (I am ignoring TJ's views on
this).  Maiden, Metallica, Slayer, Opeth are all popular, but all four
have produced music that is classic and should all be held in high
regard.

E.
--
Over-rated is over-rated

Define popular? As Metallica has albums selling more in one week 20
some years after they were released than what Opeth usually sells of
any of their albums.
Opeth is only somewhat popular.

Tom
 
tom_w_b at (no spam) juno.com...
Posted: Thu Sep 24, 2009 1:34 pm
Guest
Quote:
I see what you're saying, however how often have we seen those same
bands receive rave reviews for weaker albums purely because of their
name. I'm particularly reminded of St Anger, some later Slayer albums,
and of course some of Maiden's later albums, and as much as I'm an
opeth fanboi, albums like Ghost Reveries have received great critical
acclaim when they were perhaps slightly below what is expected of the
band.

Don't say that around e.

Tom
 
audiophile...
Posted: Thu Sep 24, 2009 3:48 pm
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On Sep 24, 7:34 pm, "tom_... at (no spam) juno.com" <tom.madm... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:
Quote:
I see what you're saying, however how often have we seen those same
bands receive rave reviews for weaker albums purely because of their
name. I'm particularly reminded of St Anger, some later Slayer albums,
and of course some of Maiden's later albums, and as much as I'm an
opeth fanboi, albums like Ghost Reveries have received great critical
acclaim when they were perhaps slightly below what is expected of the
band.

  Don't say that around e.

GR is in the bottom of Opeth albums IMO, just above Watershed and
Morningrise.

But the bottom half of Opeth is still higher than most metal for me :)

e.
--
GR is fantastic, even though two songs are meh
 
Cornholio...
Posted: Thu Sep 24, 2009 7:30 pm
Guest
audiophile wrote:
Quote:
On Sep 23, 10:09 pm, Cornholio <t... at (no spam) mybunghole.net> wrote:
TJ Xenos wrote:
On Sep 23, 7:52 pm, Cornholio <t... at (no spam) mybunghole.net> wrote:
Are there any bands you feel that are overrated that most metalheads are
into? I can only think of one at the moment and that would be Pantera
and while I do like them I feel they are hugely overrated and assigned
too much importance. As for the other bands that are generally liked by
metalheads I feel they deserve it.
pantera
at the gates
metallica
in flames
dark tranquility
edge of sanity
neverbore
opeth
mastodon
testament
megadeth
anthrax
Judas Priest
Iron Maiden with Bruce
I agree about Pantera and Mastodon that's about it.

Come on, man. Metallica is just about the most overrated metal band on
the planet.

e.
--
they are not the flagbearers of metal!

I know they're not the be and end all of metal far from it but they did
do more than any band since sabbath to spread the genre IMO. I guess I
can see why some people would consider them overrated.
 
 
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