On Oct 5, 2:20 am, "tom_... at (no spam) juno.com" <tom.madm... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:
On Oct 3, 2:40 pm, Wyrd <Wyr... at (no spam) hotmail.co.uk> wrote:

I wasn't even referring to the metal press, but people on the
tinterweb.
It's a simple cure, don't read things you don't care about.
Oh I find it fun to read what people write about their heroes. Back
in the day Metallica sheep were fun to bait and I have certainly seen
enough bait put out for the Pantera sheep. Some sheep were just more
rabid than others.
E.
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Flamefest.
I loved Metallica back in the day, but as they got worse, I stepped
back. Now to the point I don't even mention them.

Tom

Baiting the sheep was the main reason for going anywhere near the
Metallica NG for quite some time.

E.
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Ah fun days.

On 3 Oct, 03:26, SG <sguen... at (no spam) yahoo.com> wrote:
On Oct 2, 4:23 am, Wyrd <Wyr... at (no spam) hotmail.co.uk> wrote:





On Oct 2, 8:24 am, dclizardking <dclizardk... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:
On 2 Oct, 01:35, SG <sguen... at (no spam) yahoo.com> wrote:
On Sep 30, 8:36 pm, audiophile <audiophi... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:
Dipshit Darrell being hailed by most metal magazines as "one of the
greatest guitarists of all time" and the band being listed by most
mags as "in the top most influential/important" qualifies as FUCKING
OVERRATED.
Just because the masses are generally clueless does not mean they
don't count in a discussion about overratedness.
e.
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overrated beyond belief!
He was a 'bro'. Respect the dead (died doing what he loved to do).
SG (did he spit on your mother?)
Doesn't mean we have to revere his guitar playing, he was hugely
overrated. He may have been a top bloke and I respect the fact he died
doing what he loved, but that doesn't make him any better as a
guitarist. I don't believe for one second that e was disrespecting him
by having an opinion on his musicianship or his band. The fact he's
dead doesn't mean he is now a better guitarist does it?
It's strange that death seems elevate certain musicians to near god-
like status. Hendrix, Burton, Bonham and now Dimebag. You could add
Bolan or Scott to that list. It's as though because they are dead no
one can criticise them musically, as it's taboo to speak ill of the
dead.
I am not saying there is anything particularly wrong with any of those
I named, but neither am I worshipping the ground they once walked
upon.
E.
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With respect
I don't worship Dimebag. But I was hugely saddened by his death and
how
pointless his death was. He must have worked very hard to hone his
craft
and create what he did, to reach that level of success. No one can
deny he
was talented, so I have issues with calling him a dipshit. Do you have
to be
top-ten to be dipshit-less?

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I don't think you understand this, the opinion of some of us is that
he wasn't a particularly good guitarist. I don't think at any point
the fact that he died tragically has anything to do with how good he
was, nor the kind of person he was. I know loads of really nice
people, doesn't mean they're great guitarists does it? I felt for his
family and friends when he died, however I'm not suddenly going to
revere him because he died tragically. That would be hypocritical.

On 3 Oct, 03:19, SG <sguen... at (no spam) yahoo.com> wrote:
On Oct 2, 12:24 am, dclizardking <dclizardk... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:





On 2 Oct, 01:35, SG <sguen... at (no spam) yahoo.com> wrote:
On Sep 30, 8:36 pm, audiophile <audiophi... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:
Dipshit Darrell being hailed by most metal magazines as "one of the
greatest guitarists of all time" and the band being listed by most
mags as "in the top most influential/important" qualifies as FUCKING
OVERRATED.
Just because the masses are generally clueless does not mean they
don't count in a discussion about overratedness.
e.
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overrated beyond belief!
He was a 'bro'. Respect the dead (died doing what he loved to do).
SG (did he spit on your mother?)
Doesn't mean we have to revere his guitar playing, he was hugely
overrated. He may have been a top bloke and I respect the fact he died
doing what he loved, but that doesn't make him any better as a
guitarist. I don't believe for one second that e was disrespecting him
by having an opinion on his musicianship or his band. The fact he's
dead doesn't mean he is now a better guitarist does it?
Did Dimebag claim it himself? Can he control what others write about
him?
What makes him a dipshit?

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I didn't say he claimed it himself, nor did I disrespect him. I was
merely pointing out that he was a very ordinary guitar player who was
overrated. As for calling him a dipshit, that wasn't my accusation.

On Oct 5, 10:36 am, Wyrd <Wyr... at (no spam) hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
On Oct 5, 2:59 pm, TJ Xenos <talvi... at (no spam) aol.com> wrote:





On Oct 2, 3:24 am, dclizardking <dclizardk... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:
On 2 Oct, 01:35, SG <sguen... at (no spam) yahoo.com> wrote:
On Sep 30, 8:36 pm, audiophile <audiophi... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:
Dipshit Darrell being hailed by most metal magazines as "one of the
greatest guitarists of all time" and the band being listed by most
mags as "in the top most influential/important" qualifies as FUCKING
OVERRATED.
Just because the masses are generally clueless does not mean they
don't count in a discussion about overratedness.
e.
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overrated beyond belief!
He was a 'bro'. Respect the dead (died doing what he loved to do).
SG (did he spit on your mother?)
Doesn't mean we have to revere his guitar playing, he was hugely
overrated. He may have been a top bloke and I respect the fact he died
doing what he loved, but that doesn't make him any better as a
guitarist. I don't believe for one second that e was disrespecting him
by having an opinion on his musicianship or his band. The fact he's
dead doesn't mean he is now a better guitarist does it?
but millions of kids got into playing guitar because of him and that's
what's important!
Is it? I didn't think shit like that mattered to you. It's all about
the music not how many shitheads.......

reloads the sarcasm cannon, aims at Wyrd's head

Missed ya the first time :)

e.
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bang!

E.
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Andy Sneap is still a god...;-)

  e will be along to disagree soon.

He won't fall for the such obvious bait, but TJ might not be able to
resist that.

E.

E.
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Andy Sneap is still a god...;-)

  e will be along to disagree soon.

He won't fall for the such obvious bait, but TJ might not be able to
resist that.

E.

  I don't know. I guess we wait and see.

Tom

On Oct 9, 6:11 pm, "tom_... at (no spam) juno.com" <tom.madm... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:

E.
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Andy Sneap is still a god...;-)

  e will be along to disagree soon.

He won't fall for the such obvious bait, but TJ might not be able to
resist that.

E.

  I don't know. I guess we wait and see.

Tom

I dislike overproduced far more than underproduced.

It's not even a contest.

e.
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enjoys reek of putrefaction
dislikes metallica's black album

On Oct 9, 6:11 pm, "tom_... at (no spam) juno.com" <tom.madm... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:

E.
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Andy Sneap is still a god...;-)

  e will be along to disagree soon.

He won't fall for the such obvious bait, but TJ might not be able to
resist that.

E.

  I don't know. I guess we wait and see.

Tom

I dislike overproduced far more than underproduced.

It's not even a contest.

e.
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enjoys reek of putrefaction

dislikes metallica's black album

On Oct 9, 6:11 pm, "tom_... at (no spam) juno.com" <tom.madm... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:

E.
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Andy Sneap is still a god...;-)

e will be along to disagree soon.

He won't fall for the such obvious bait, but TJ might not be able to
resist that.

E.

I don't know. I guess we wait and see.

Tom

I dislike overproduced far more than underproduced.

It's not even a contest.

e.
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enjoys reek of putrefaction

This was ruined by the production.

dislikes metallica's black album

Metallica was ruined by the producer.

On Oct 5, 3:04 pm, TJ Xenos <talvi... at (no spam) aol.com> wrote:
On Oct 4, 7:10 am, Wyrd <Wyr... at (no spam) hotmail.co.uk> wrote:



On Oct 4, 2:03 am, "nodeerforamonth" <no... at (no spam) hotmail.com> wrote:

Any band where you have to be stoned out of your mind to tolerate them can't
be any good at all.

Have you not noticed you out on your own here.  That's always a
problem, especially when your head is stuck so far up your arse.

They're TOTALLY "easy listening".  I get them mixed up with the Alan Parsons
Project all the time!  "Eye In The Sky" sounds like any run of the mill
Floyd song to me!  Then again, I don't smoke pot.

They have always been rock, from psychedelic ROCK to prog ROCK.  I
don't smoke pot either, but nor am a clueless idiot.  Unlike some.

E.
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Hmm a Floyd day?

Rock sucks.  The day rock & roll got turned into rock and lost its
soul and became about hirsuit white guys trying to be artistic through
drugs and guitars instead of trying to make people move their asses
was really the days the music died, not when buddy holly crashed in
the plane.

I'll take rock over rock'n'roll every single day of the week.

E.

With my music? Hmm maybe but I haven't often been in a position to
insult someone with music, though I wouldn't mind doing so to any
fundamentalist religious idiot (they are all quite mad and dangerous).

Insult generally? Hell yes isn't that what Usenet and the tinterweb
was invented for? Other than porn of course.

E.
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Don't even try to deny it.

On Oct 5, 8:28 pm, "tom_... at (no spam) juno.com" <tom.madm... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:
On Oct 5, 7:58 am, TJ Xenos <talvi... at (no spam) aol.com> wrote:
Are you trying to insinuate I might like meshuggah, even the early
stuff?

  No, just that you don't seem to like many bands later releases. It's
like you only like a demo tape they put out before they even had a
deal, that was limited to 100 copies the self taped on a 2 cassette
boom box thing.
  Anything mass produced though, sucks balls.

Tom

I'm generally partial to the belief that given a lifetime (up to the
point) to produce your first album, and then a year or two to produce
the 2nd, it's simply not possible to put as much effort into later
releases. Also, generally progressing throughout a career technology
"improves" and bands get more money, both of which tend to be things
that drag down the quality of the sound recording. I don't like clean
production and I think most of us would agree that the bulk of our
favorites were recorded on analog as opposed to digital, and in a lot
of cases with tube amps as opposed to solid state amps. Also, this
"progress" (especially technologically) has much more of a tendency
towards homogeneity than more primitive recordings, because the exact
conditions of a dingy rehearsal space and shitty pawn shop amp are
nearly impossible to replicate. A brand new marshall is a brand new
marshall. Every shitty pawn shop amp is different. Sure with a lot
of different shit you're gonna have a lot more shitty stuff and a
whole lot less consistency, but i'd rather 100 things all over the
1-100 scale than 100 things that are all in the 70s and low 80s on the
100 point scale.

There are some types of music I prefer to have recorded digitally (the
obvious: industrial, darkwave, synth pop, etc), but for the most part
I *strongly* agree with this post.

e.

dislikes metallica's black album

Metallica was ruined by the producer.

Wyrd wrote:
On Oct 3, 2:49 pm, "tom_... at (no spam) juno.com" <tom.madm... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:
This isn't aimed at you, but some people have a strange way to show
respect.
Tom
Respect is earned, not given.
e.
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"dying is dry
like a fact of history
and when you die
you'll become something worse than dead
you'll become
a legend"
What some people think is only given, others believe it to have been
earned. It's all according to one's point of view.

Tom

Plenty of people have produced half-decent music like DD did, but they
don't get the sycophantic idiots blathering on about them
constantly.

E.
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Sheep the world over.

Call me sheep but FBD is still one of my favs.