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On Sep 25, 1:22 pm, dclizardking <dclizardk... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:



On 25 Sep, 12:34, Wyrd <Wyr... at (no spam) hotmail.co.uk> wrote:

On Sep 25, 9:14 am, TJ Xenos <talvi... at (no spam) aol.com> wrote:

On Sep 24, 9:31 pm, Cornholio <t... at (no spam) mybunghole.net> wrote:

Wyrd wrote:
On Sep 24, 12:53 am, Cornholio <t... at (no spam) mybunghole.net> wrote:
tom_... at (no spam) juno.com wrote:
expansion in more mainstream music with alternative and grunge
whereas
this decade there hasn't been much of anything.
I dislike alternative and grunge a lot.
Tom
I wasn't saying those genres were great or anything just that
they were
something new and fresh and mainstream music currently has
nothing
that's new and fresh.

We have metalcore..;-)

E.

Oh boy how great, actually that wonderful stuff started in the 90's
too.

if metalcore started in the 90s then grunge started in the 80s.

Certainly Nirvana were around in the late 80's. I have no idea what
their music was like at the time. I have no interest in finding out
either.

Grunge can be really said to be a 90's phenomenon, as that's when most
of the bands crawled out of the woodwork. Metalcore is a 00's thing,
for exactly the same reason.

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Think Bleach was released in '89, and Mudhoney, green River, Catt
Butt, Mother Love Bone, Tad and a host of other bands were around
before that. It was however the 90s when it became popular and I think
the term 'grunge' came into popular use to describe the bands of the
Seattle movement in the early 90s, so a 90s genre it is. Personally I
think Nirvana's music worsened over time, Bleach has some decent
songs, everything after is rubbish. As for Metalcore, I just don't
care, it's boring as hell, and much like nu metal I find it very
difficult to see anything in it that interests me.
I have never heard any Nirvana I have liked, but that also goes for
the whole of grunge.  However with Metalcore there are a couple of
bands, The Black Dahlia Murder and Chimaira  that are classed as
Metalcore, but still generate some interest.  Maybe because they don't
have the shouty vocals right in your face as other bands.

I listened to the new BDM the other day and don`t really see why they`re
called metalcore at all? I`d pretty much avoided them because of this tag
but in actuality they`re a technical melodic death metal band.

I have never heard any Nirvana I have liked, but that also goes for
the whole of grunge.  However with Metalcore there are a couple of
bands, The Black Dahlia Murder and Chimaira  that are classed as
Metalcore, but still generate some interest.  Maybe because they don't
have the shouty vocals right in your face as other bands.

E.
--
Still detests 99% of metalcore.

if metalcore started in the 90s then grunge started in the 80s.

Certainly Nirvana were around in the late 80's.  I have no idea what
their music was like at the time.  I have no interest in finding out
either.

Grunge can be really said to be a 90's phenomenon, as that's when most
of the bands crawled out of the woodwork.  Metalcore is a 00's thing,
for exactly the same reason.

E.

On Sep 25, 8:26 am, Wyrd <Wyr... at (no spam) hotmail.co.uk> wrote:

I have never heard any Nirvana I have liked, but that also goes for
the whole of grunge.  However with Metalcore there are a couple of
bands, The Black Dahlia Murder and Chimaira  that are classed as
Metalcore, but still generate some interest.  Maybe because they don't
have the shouty vocals right in your face as other bands.

E.
--
Still detests 99% of metalcore.

As far as I can see, the term "grunge" means that the band came from
Seattle and some members wore flannel.

Any micro-genre label that includes both Pearl Jam and Mudhoney is too
disparate to have any meaning IMO.

e.
--
bleach is awesome

On 25 Sep, 12:34, Wyrd <Wyr... at (no spam) hotmail.co.uk> wrote:



On Sep 25, 9:14 am, TJ Xenos <talvi... at (no spam) aol.com> wrote:

On Sep 24, 9:31 pm, Cornholio <t... at (no spam) mybunghole.net> wrote:

Wyrd wrote:
On Sep 24, 12:53 am, Cornholio <t... at (no spam) mybunghole.net> wrote:
tom_... at (no spam) juno.com wrote:
expansion in more mainstream music with alternative and grunge
whereas
this decade there hasn't been much of anything.
I dislike alternative and grunge a lot.
Tom
I wasn't saying those genres were great or anything just that
they were
something new and fresh and mainstream music currently has
nothing
that's new and fresh.

We have metalcore..;-)

E.

Oh boy how great, actually that wonderful stuff started in the 90's
too.

if metalcore started in the 90s then grunge started in the 80s.

Certainly Nirvana were around in the late 80's. I have no idea what
their music was like at the time. I have no interest in finding out
either.

Grunge can be really said to be a 90's phenomenon, as that's when most
of the bands crawled out of the woodwork. Metalcore is a 00's thing,
for exactly the same reason.

E.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Think Bleach was released in '89, and Mudhoney, green River, Catt
Butt, Mother Love Bone, Tad and a host of other bands were around
before that. It was however the 90s when it became popular and I think
the term 'grunge' came into popular use to describe the bands of the
Seattle movement in the early 90s, so a 90s genre it is. Personally I
think Nirvana's music worsened over time, Bleach has some decent
songs, everything after is rubbish. As for Metalcore, I just don't
care, it's boring as hell, and much like nu metal I find it very
difficult to see anything in it that interests me.

I have never heard any Nirvana I have liked, but that also goes for
the whole of grunge. However with Metalcore there are a couple of
bands, The Black Dahlia Murder and Chimaira that are classed as
Metalcore, but still generate some interest. Maybe because they don't
have the shouty vocals right in your face as other bands.

"Wyrd" <Wyr... at (no spam) hotmail.co.uk> wrote in message

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On Sep 23, 12:14 am, "tom_... at (no spam) juno.com" <tom.madm... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:

I`m not at all sure I could put RiB in order...Epidemic is probably the
least of the bunch but it`s still seven shades of awesome...and the Post
Mortem / Raining Blood finale is possibly my favourite 8 minutes or so
of
metal ever.

Aside from AoD, and PM/RB, I've forgotten the names of most of the
other songs. I guess I just play the album and not think of the song
list.

Tom
This is how I view most albums.  As I have no interest in what the
song is about, I don't bother checking out the song titles.  As
usually most song titles are just as inane and cliché ridden as the
lyrics.

Back in the 80`s I`d remember all the song titles of albums...I could quite
easily rattle through every song on every 80`s album for bands like Slayer,
Maiden, Metallica, Megadeth, Exodus etc. But nowadays...well, probably since
the early 90`s...there`s just too much stuff coming at me to remember it
all.

On Sep 25, 1:22 pm, dclizardking <dclizardk... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:





On 25 Sep, 12:34, Wyrd <Wyr... at (no spam) hotmail.co.uk> wrote:

On Sep 25, 9:14 am, TJ Xenos <talvi... at (no spam) aol.com> wrote:

On Sep 24, 9:31 pm, Cornholio <t... at (no spam) mybunghole.net> wrote:

Wyrd wrote:
On Sep 24, 12:53 am, Cornholio <t... at (no spam) mybunghole.net> wrote:
tom_... at (no spam) juno.com wrote:
expansion in more mainstream music with alternative and grunge whereas
this decade there hasn't been much of anything.
  I dislike alternative and grunge a lot.
Tom
I wasn't saying those genres were great or anything just that they were
something new and fresh and mainstream music currently has nothing
that's new and fresh.

We have metalcore..;-)

E.

Oh boy how great, actually that wonderful stuff started in the 90's too.

if metalcore started in the 90s then grunge started in the 80s.

Certainly Nirvana were around in the late 80's.  I have no idea what
their music was like at the time.  I have no interest in finding out
either.

Grunge can be really said to be a 90's phenomenon, as that's when most
of the bands crawled out of the woodwork.  Metalcore is a 00's thing,
for exactly the same reason.

E.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Think Bleach was released in '89, and Mudhoney, green River, Catt
Butt, Mother Love Bone, Tad and a host of other bands were around
before that. It was however the 90s when it became popular and I think
the term 'grunge' came into popular use to describe the bands of the
Seattle movement in the early 90s, so a 90s genre it is. Personally I
think Nirvana's music worsened over time, Bleach has some decent
songs, everything after is rubbish. As for Metalcore, I just don't
care, it's boring as hell, and much like nu metal I find it very
difficult to see anything in it that interests me.

I have never heard any Nirvana I have liked, but that also goes for
the whole of grunge.  However with Metalcore there are a couple of
bands, The Black Dahlia Murder and Chimaira  that are classed as
Metalcore, but still generate some interest.  Maybe because they don't
have the shouty vocals right in your face as other bands.

E.
--
Still detests 99% of metalcore.- Hide quoted text -

My biggest complaint of most new metal is... while sounding generally
great a lot
of the time, individual songs don't tend to stick out like they did in
the old days.
I can enjoy GammaRay and Municipal Waste, but their songs don't hold
an
identity like songs from early Metallica or Megadeth albums.

E.
--
Still detests 99% of metalcore.- Hide quoted text -

The worst I can say of Nirvana is that rock radio stations overplay
them and make you very ill because of it. If they were underground
I'd be a big fan.

The worst I can say of Nirvana is that rock radio stations overplay
them and make you very ill because of it. If they were underground
I'd be a big fan.

I still enjoy Bleach and In Utero. Both really good albums.

Nevermind is too poppy for the band's sensibilities.

e.
--
popularity doesn't factor

The worst I can say of Nirvana is that rock radio stations overplay
them and make you very ill because of it. If they were underground
I'd be a big fan.

I still enjoy Bleach and In Utero. Both really good albums.

Nevermind is too poppy for the band's sensibilities.

e.
--
popularity doesn't factor

  It does when where ever you go, someone is playing the damn thing.

Tom

  It does when where ever you go, someone is playing the damn thing.

Tom

Guess I am lucky I haven't heard Nirvana in ages.

E.

On Sep 25, 5:34 am, Wyrd <Wyr... at (no spam) hotmail.co.uk> wrote:

if metalcore started in the 90s then grunge started in the 80s.

Certainly Nirvana were around in the late 80's.  I have no idea what
their music was like at the time.  I have no interest in finding out
either.

Grunge can be really said to be a 90's phenomenon, as that's when most
of the bands crawled out of the woodwork.  Metalcore is a 00's thing,
for exactly the same reason.

E.

  History of stuff I don't care about. I dislike Nirvana. A lot. I
wouldn't listen to any of their songs on purpose.

Tom

It's not as though I go out of my way to research the history of Metal/
rock or one of it's sub-genres, I just kind of know these things by
just reading magazines, the net, books.

E.
--
Strange what reading stuff does to you.

It's not as though I go out of my way to research the history of Metal/
rock or one of it's sub-genres, I just kind of know these things by
just reading magazines, the net, books.

E.
--
Strange what reading stuff does to you.

  I don't read any "metal press", and usually now, I see a band's
name, and just go to You Tube and listen. It either works or doesn't
work.
  I am not highly, or even partly interested in what these band's
members do on their own time. Just record the music and put it out. If
I like it, I like it, if I don't I don't.

Tom