expansion in more mainstream music with alternative and grunge whereas
this decade there hasn't been much of anything.

I dislike alternative and grunge a lot.

Tom

Vertebrae spent quite a long time in my CD player.  A few months at
least.

E.
--
One of the few that liked it.

  I liked it a good deal, I probably have played it 30-40 times at the
least. I will admit the first few listens, it didn't sit well with me,
but that changed with time. Just played it today, as a matter of fact.

Tom

On Sep 23, 12:54 am, Wyrd <Wyr... at (no spam) hotmail.co.uk> wrote:

  Aside from AoD, and PM/RB, I've forgotten the names of most of the
other songs. I guess I just play the album and not think of the song
list.

Tom

This is how I view most albums.  As I have no interest in what the
song is about, I don't bother checking out the song titles.  As
usually most song titles are just as inane and cliché ridden as the
lyrics.

E.

  I do disagree to some point here, but I don't know most albums song
titles, even some I've played 50 times or more.

Tom

tom_... at (no spam) juno.com wrote:
expansion in more mainstream music with alternative and grunge whereas
this decade there hasn't been much of anything.

  I dislike alternative and grunge a lot.

Tom

I wasn't saying those genres were great or anything just that they were
something new and fresh and mainstream music currently has nothing
that's new and fresh.

Since I no longer do that, it's a lot harder to remember song titles.
Sure the ones where it's obvious by repetition of the title in the
song, but I probably would just refer to some songs as track #4 on x
album.

That`s a good point actually, I used to tape most of my albums to listen to
in the car or earlier still just on the old cassette walkmans...and I`d
always write the song titles down on those inlay sleeves. So that`s probably
why I remember them all. Same for comps, would always write the songs
down...now all I have to do is drag the track into an itunes playlist!

  I dislike alternative and grunge a lot.

Tom

I wasn't saying those genres were great or anything just that they were
something new and fresh and mainstream music currently has nothing
that's new and fresh.

On Sep 23, 11:09 pm, "tom_... at (no spam) juno.com" <tom.madm... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:



On Sep 23, 12:54 am, Wyrd <Wyr... at (no spam) hotmail.co.uk> wrote:

  Aside from AoD, and PM/RB, I've forgotten the names of most of the
other songs. I guess I just play the album and not think of the song
list.

Tom

This is how I view most albums.  As I have no interest in what the
song is about, I don't bother checking out the song titles.  As
usually most song titles are just as inane and cliché ridden as the
lyrics.

E.

  I do disagree to some point here, but I don't know most albums song
titles, even some I've played 50 times or more.

Tom

I feel like at times I should know the song titles, especially to say
some of the songs/albums I recently listed for decade list.  Just it's
very rare for me to look at the cd cases while listening to the
music.  I do remember handling vinyl sleeves a great deal more than I
have ever done with cd's. As a kid, I used pour over them, especially
the art work, but also the thank you list, to see if they name checked
any bands I hadn't heard of.

E.
--
Has just been mugged while strolling down memory lane.

Bah - I like *all* Enslaved about equally! Which includes those! As I said,
the only Enslaved I don`t consider awesome in the latest one...which is just
OK. So as to keep my crown as the ListMaster...

1. Below the Lights
2. Eld
3. Isa
4. Blodhemn
5. Frost
6. Vikingligr Veldi/Hordanes Land
7. Monumension
8. Ruun
9. Mardraum
10. Vertebrae

1-8 would all be knocking around 9-10/10 for me...Mardraum around an 8 and
Vertebrae a 6-7.

On Sep 24, 12:53 am, Cornholio <t... at (no spam) mybunghole.net> wrote:
tom_... at (no spam) juno.com wrote:
expansion in more mainstream music with alternative and grunge whereas
this decade there hasn't been much of anything.
I dislike alternative and grunge a lot.
Tom
I wasn't saying those genres were great or anything just that they were
something new and fresh and mainstream music currently has nothing
that's new and fresh.

We have metalcore..;-)

E.

Wyrd wrote:
On Sep 24, 12:53 am, Cornholio <t... at (no spam) mybunghole.net> wrote:
tom_... at (no spam) juno.com wrote:
expansion in more mainstream music with alternative and grunge whereas
this decade there hasn't been much of anything.
  I dislike alternative and grunge a lot.
Tom
I wasn't saying those genres were great or anything just that they were
something new and fresh and mainstream music currently has nothing
that's new and fresh.

We have metalcore..;-)

E.

Oh boy how great, actually that wonderful stuff started in the 90's too.

On Sep 24, 4:56 pm, "Soze" <I... at (no spam) salsbury42.freeserve.co.uk> wrote:



Bah - I like *all* Enslaved about equally! Which includes those! As I said,
the only Enslaved I don`t consider awesome in the latest one...which is just
OK. So as to keep my crown as the ListMaster...

1. Below the Lights
2. Eld
3. Isa
4. Blodhemn
5. Frost
6. Vikingligr Veldi/Hordanes Land
7. Monumension
8. Ruun
9. Mardraum
10. Vertebrae

1-8 would all be knocking around 9-10/10 for me...Mardraum around an 8 and
Vertebrae a 6-7.

Enslaved list!!!

1. Vikingligr Veldi
2. Isa
3. Frost
4. Eld
5. Blodhemn/Hordane's Land
6. Below the Lights
7. Mardraum
8. Vertebrae
9. Monumension
10. Ruun

e.
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frost may be #2 ... tough call

On Sep 24, 1:04 am, Wyrd <Wyr... at (no spam) hotmail.co.uk> wrote:



On Sep 23, 11:09 pm, "tom_... at (no spam) juno.com" <tom.madm... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:

On Sep 23, 12:54 am, Wyrd <Wyr... at (no spam) hotmail.co.uk> wrote:

  Aside from AoD, and PM/RB, I've forgotten the names of most of the
other songs. I guess I just play the album and not think of the song
list.

Tom

This is how I view most albums.  As I have no interest in what the
song is about, I don't bother checking out the song titles.  As
usually most song titles are just as inane and cliché ridden as the
lyrics.

E.

  I do disagree to some point here, but I don't know most albums song
titles, even some I've played 50 times or more.

Tom

I feel like at times I should know the song titles, especially to say
some of the songs/albums I recently listed for decade list.  Just it's
very rare for me to look at the cd cases while listening to the
music.  I do remember handling vinyl sleeves a great deal more than I
have ever done with cd's. As a kid, I used pour over them, especially
the art work, but also the thank you list, to see if they name checked
any bands I hadn't heard of.

E.
--
Has just been mugged while strolling down memory lane.

   I guess the internet name checks bands for you quite fast these
days. I sort of quit reading the thank you lists years back.

On Sep 24, 9:31 pm, Cornholio <t... at (no spam) mybunghole.net> wrote:



Wyrd wrote:
On Sep 24, 12:53 am, Cornholio <t... at (no spam) mybunghole.net> wrote:
tom_... at (no spam) juno.com wrote:
expansion in more mainstream music with alternative and grunge whereas
this decade there hasn't been much of anything.
  I dislike alternative and grunge a lot.
Tom
I wasn't saying those genres were great or anything just that they were
something new and fresh and mainstream music currently has nothing
that's new and fresh.

We have metalcore..;-)

E.

Oh boy how great, actually that wonderful stuff started in the 90's too..

if metalcore started in the 90s then grunge started in the 80s.

On Sep 25, 9:14 am, TJ Xenos <talvi... at (no spam) aol.com> wrote:





On Sep 24, 9:31 pm, Cornholio <t... at (no spam) mybunghole.net> wrote:

Wyrd wrote:
On Sep 24, 12:53 am, Cornholio <t... at (no spam) mybunghole.net> wrote:
tom_... at (no spam) juno.com wrote:
expansion in more mainstream music with alternative and grunge whereas
this decade there hasn't been much of anything.
  I dislike alternative and grunge a lot.
Tom
I wasn't saying those genres were great or anything just that they were
something new and fresh and mainstream music currently has nothing
that's new and fresh.

We have metalcore..;-)

E.

Oh boy how great, actually that wonderful stuff started in the 90's too.

if metalcore started in the 90s then grunge started in the 80s.

Certainly Nirvana were around in the late 80's.  I have no idea what
their music was like at the time.  I have no interest in finding out
either.

Grunge can be really said to be a 90's phenomenon, as that's when most
of the bands crawled out of the woodwork.  Metalcore is a 00's thing,
for exactly the same reason.

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On 25 Sep, 12:34, Wyrd <Wyr... at (no spam) hotmail.co.uk> wrote:



On Sep 25, 9:14 am, TJ Xenos <talvi... at (no spam) aol.com> wrote:

On Sep 24, 9:31 pm, Cornholio <t... at (no spam) mybunghole.net> wrote:

Wyrd wrote:
On Sep 24, 12:53 am, Cornholio <t... at (no spam) mybunghole.net> wrote:
tom_... at (no spam) juno.com wrote:
expansion in more mainstream music with alternative and grunge whereas
this decade there hasn't been much of anything.
  I dislike alternative and grunge a lot.
Tom
I wasn't saying those genres were great or anything just that they were
something new and fresh and mainstream music currently has nothing
that's new and fresh.

We have metalcore..;-)

E.

Oh boy how great, actually that wonderful stuff started in the 90's too.

if metalcore started in the 90s then grunge started in the 80s.

Certainly Nirvana were around in the late 80's.  I have no idea what
their music was like at the time.  I have no interest in finding out
either.

Grunge can be really said to be a 90's phenomenon, as that's when most
of the bands crawled out of the woodwork.  Metalcore is a 00's thing,
for exactly the same reason.

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Think Bleach was released in '89, and Mudhoney, green River, Catt
Butt, Mother Love Bone, Tad and a host of other bands were around
before that. It was however the 90s when it became popular and I think
the term 'grunge' came into popular use to describe the bands of the
Seattle movement in the early 90s, so a 90s genre it is. Personally I
think Nirvana's music worsened over time, Bleach has some decent
songs, everything after is rubbish. As for Metalcore, I just don't
care, it's boring as hell, and much like nu metal I find it very
difficult to see anything in it that interests me.