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sean...
Posted: Thu Sep 03, 2009 3:17 pm
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Copied from the Leonard Cohen forum:



dear friends

New post by ~greg on Wed Sep 02, 2009 8:44 am


I consider everyone who ever appeared in the old news group or in this
forum
to be my friend. You have all changed my life for the better in so
many ways.

And I need to apologize again to everyone for all the e-mails
and posts that I should have responded to and meant to but never did.
And I need to apologize for all my other inconsiderations. Which are
way too many to list,
but which will now be topped by the present bummer!

The truth is that my energy level has been very low, and has been
for some time. And now the further truth is that this thing has
"metastasized"
into stage-4 cancer.

This is a bummer. And I thought I wouldn't want anyone at all to know
about it.
And I considered not telling anyone at all about it. But it turned out
I had
to tell at least tell some of my relatives about it.

And, for me, I'm glad I did. They have been giving me a great deal of
practical assistance.

But much more than that. My not having to deal with this entirely
alone
turns out to be much more helpful than I thought. And this I think is
the
real reason I'm talking about this.

Over the last several weeks I have, of course, been through a crash
course about the kind of cancer that I have, and about my options,
(which are none.) And so my second reason for telling you
about my situation is as a backed-up warning to you to get check ups
and improve you diets and exercise and all that. And to try to keep
your
affairs in some kind of order so you won't have to do it all at once
if it
comes down to that.

~~

I certainly don't want this to turn into a thread of consolations!

What I'd like to see is a general discussion of health issues and
cancer
in particular, general knowledge and personal experiences, because the
subject is changing rapidly, and because most of us are of the age
when it matters.

Greg Ross's post in the "Wet Rocks, Friends of the Concert that Never
Was"
thread, where he changed to subject to "Perhaps A Small Recipe for
Comfort"
is what made me realize that my confession will not destroy the whole
world
mood of a Leonard Cohen group! That is my prayer anyway.

In a few days I'll be at the Washington DC Veteran's hospital hospice,
where I can be closer to my sisters. I think there's internet there.
In any case, if anyone has anything to say, please don't take offence
if I don't respond back immediately.

love
~greg
 
dar...
Posted: Fri Sep 04, 2009 10:51 am
Guest
On Sep 3, 6:17 pm, sean <girls... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:
Quote:
Copied from the Leonard Cohen forum:

dear friends

New post by ~greg on Wed Sep 02, 2009 8:44 am

I consider everyone who ever appeared in the old news group or in this
forum
to be my friend. You have all changed my life for the better in so
many ways.

And I need to apologize again to everyone for all the e-mails
and posts that I should have responded to and meant to but never did.
And I need to apologize for all my other inconsiderations. Which are
way too many to list,
but which will now be topped by the present bummer!

The truth is that my energy level has been very low, and has been
for some time. And now the further truth is that this thing has
"metastasized"
into stage-4 cancer.

This is a bummer. And I thought I wouldn't want anyone at all to know
about it.
And I considered not telling anyone at all about it. But it turned out
I had
to tell at least tell some of my relatives about it.

And, for me, I'm glad I did. They have been giving me a great deal of
practical assistance.

But much more than that. My not having to deal with this entirely
alone
turns out to be much more helpful than I thought. And this I think is
the
real reason I'm talking about this.

Over the last several weeks I have, of course, been through a crash
course about the kind of cancer that I have, and about my options,
(which are none.) And so my second reason for telling you
about my situation is as a backed-up warning to you to get check ups
and improve you diets and exercise and all that. And to try to keep
your
affairs in some kind of order so you won't have to do it all at once
if it
comes down to that.

~~

I certainly don't want this to turn into a thread of consolations!

What I'd like to see is a general discussion of health issues and
cancer
in particular, general knowledge and personal experiences, because the
subject is changing rapidly, and because most of us are of the age
when it matters.

Greg Ross's post in the "Wet Rocks, Friends of the Concert that Never
Was"
thread, where he changed to subject to "Perhaps A Small Recipe for
Comfort"
is what made me realize that my confession will not destroy the whole
world
mood of a Leonard Cohen group! That is my prayer anyway.

In a few days I'll be at the Washington DC Veteran's hospital hospice,
where I can be closer to my sisters. I think there's internet there.
In any case, if anyone has anything to say, please don't take offence
if I don't respond back immediately.

love
~greg

Sean,

Thank you for posting this here. Since Greg did mention the ng, and
that he includes the old timers here as a part of his community, this
news about his health and the fact that he is terminally ill is
difficult to process for me. Before I gather any thoughts or even
attempt to respond, I want to go over to Jarkko's forum and find the
thread where Greg originally posted the information. (If you stop
here in the ng Greg, I will not get all moody blues over you, since
you asked me not to. It's not going to be easy to talk in "general"
terms about health issues when it's this personal for you.) And, damn
this bit about your considering not "confessing" your situation
dealing with cancer, hospice, getting things in order, and the rest of
it. You have been a part of the Cohen bunch for a long time now and
your archives of the old ng postings was an important part of
preserving this place. I'll be thinking of you and trying not to be
maudlin. Won't be easy.
 
Snow...
Posted: Fri Sep 04, 2009 3:51 pm
Guest
dar wrote:
Quote:
. . . the fact that he is terminally ill is difficult to process for me.

hey dar!! greg has the spirit of a fighter, i am sure. he may not
necessarily be terminally ill, there are all sorts of stories of people
living for a long time after having had cancer. but yes, it is a very
serious matter - and one in which optimism can play a big role. i wish him
all the best, and pray that he can come through this.

it's very nice to 'hear your voice', dar. comforting as well.
love g
 
abby...
Posted: Fri Sep 04, 2009 5:32 pm
Guest
I second Dar's thanks, Sean. Were it not for you, I wouldn't have
known.

It is difficult, isn't it?

I'm thinking of visiting Greg when he's in hospice. I'm thinking
about visiting you, Greg. Would anyone like to join me? Should I
bring cigarettes? Champagne? How about a cup of coffee? Black or
with cream? We could play a game like 'Filling out your living will'
or 'Who was your favorite person writing to the newsgroup in October
1997?'

I'm a professional when it comes to these matters, rest assured.
 
Tom Layesman...
Posted: Fri Sep 04, 2009 10:24 pm
Guest
A pity about Greg. I lost a close friend to bone marrow cancer on July
6th. He was only 54 years old. Not easy to let go.

Tom

http://community.webtv.net/poetryman/TomsWebpage
 
Snow...
Posted: Fri Sep 04, 2009 11:19 pm
Guest
abby wrote:
Quote:
I'm thinking about visiting you, Greg. Would anyone like to join me?

Would love to, but like the Norwegian Blue parrot would soon be pining for
the fjords. Have a guest room here, though, if he can jump on a plane!!!!

G
 
dar...
Posted: Sat Sep 05, 2009 7:27 am
Guest
On Sep 4, 8:32 pm, abby <abigail.s.vi... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:
Quote:
I second Dar's thanks, Sean.  Were it not for you, I wouldn't have
known.

It is difficult, isn't it?

I'm thinking of visiting Greg when he's in hospice.  I'm thinking
about visiting you, Greg.  Would anyone like to join me?  Should I
bring cigarettes?  Champagne?  How about a cup of coffee?  Black or
with cream?  We could play a game like 'Filling out your living will'
or 'Who was your favorite person writing to the newsgroup in October
1997?'

I'm a professional when it comes to these matters, rest assured.

Hi Abby,

I will be up your way about Oct. 7th or so. I'm in NYC for a bit and
then going to try and meet up with my travelling daughter in DC around
Oct. 9th.
Maybe there is a way we could connect and go to see Greg? Can you
drop him an email and see if he would want us to come and see him?
Stay in touch and let me know if that's a possibility.
(I'm off line again for a bit but have access to a public computer a
few times a week. So don't worry if I'm a bit slow in responding. I
hope to have a proper connection soon.)

Dar
 
tif...
Posted: Sat Sep 05, 2009 3:14 pm
Guest
On Sep 3, 6:17 pm, sean <girls... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:
Quote:
Copied from the Leonard Cohen forum:

dear friends

New post by ~greg on Wed Sep 02, 2009 8:44 am

I consider everyone who ever appeared in the old news group or in this
forum
to be my friend. You have all changed my life for the better in so
many ways.

And I need to apologize again to everyone for all the e-mails
and posts that I should have responded to and meant to but never did.
And I need to apologize for all my other inconsiderations. Which are
way too many to list,
but which will now be topped by the present bummer!

The truth is that my energy level has been very low, and has been
for some time. And now the further truth is that this thing has
"metastasized"
into stage-4 cancer.

This is a bummer. And I thought I wouldn't want anyone at all to know
about it.
And I considered not telling anyone at all about it. But it turned out
I had
to tell at least tell some of my relatives about it.

And, for me, I'm glad I did. They have been giving me a great deal of
practical assistance.

But much more than that. My not having to deal with this entirely
alone
turns out to be much more helpful than I thought. And this I think is
the
real reason I'm talking about this.

Over the last several weeks I have, of course, been through a crash
course about the kind of cancer that I have, and about my options,
(which are none.) And so my second reason for telling you
about my situation is as a backed-up warning to you to get check ups
and improve you diets and exercise and all that. And to try to keep
your
affairs in some kind of order so you won't have to do it all at once
if it
comes down to that.

~~

I certainly don't want this to turn into a thread of consolations!

What I'd like to see is a general discussion of health issues and
cancer
in particular, general knowledge and personal experiences, because the
subject is changing rapidly, and because most of us are of the age
when it matters.

Greg Ross's post in the "Wet Rocks, Friends of the Concert that Never
Was"
thread, where he changed to subject to "Perhaps A Small Recipe for
Comfort"
is what made me realize that my confession will not destroy the whole
world
mood of a Leonard Cohen group! That is my prayer anyway.

In a few days I'll be at the Washington DC Veteran's hospital hospice,
where I can be closer to my sisters. I think there's internet there.
In any case, if anyone has anything to say, please don't take offence
if I don't respond back immediately.

love
~greg

You got me clearly thinkin' about you, greg.
In very positive ways, as before and as always,
Melia
 
sean...
Posted: Mon Sep 07, 2009 7:21 pm
Guest
(Tom Layesman) wrote:
Quote:
Does anyone know if greg's picture is in the Gallery of Beautiful Losers
on Jarkko's site? If so, which page is he on? Or can you post a direct
link here on the newsgroup?

I don't know if he's in the gallery, but you can see his photos here
(go to page 3 of the thread):

http://www.leonardcohenforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=18&t=17450&st=0&sk=t&sd=a&start=30
 
Tom Layesman...
Posted: Mon Sep 07, 2009 8:46 pm
Guest
Does anyone know if greg's picture is in the Gallery of Beautiful Losers
on Jarkko's site? If so, which page is he on? Or can you post a direct
link here on the newsgroup?

Thanks,

Tom

http://community.webtv.net/poetryman/TomsWebpage
 
sean...
Posted: Sat Sep 19, 2009 10:52 am
Guest
Hey Dar!

I haven't heard anything. Abby? Ania? Anybody heard anything? I'm kind
of on pins and needles. I think you should definitely go see him, Dar.
I think it would be good for you, greg and all of us!

xo
sean


Quote:

If anyone has heard how Greg is doing please post.  I'm hoping he will
show up in the ng soon.
And, Greg, if you do peek in here, I honestly would like to try to
take a detour from NYC and see you.  And don't overthink the whole why
a visit from Dar.  Just go with it and let me stop by and say hi.  It
would be nice to see the guy who posted such amazing info all over
Cohenland for all these years.  It will be a good thing to do for me;
you know how that works.  Really.
 
dar...
Posted: Sat Sep 19, 2009 1:02 pm
Guest
I haven't heard anything yet Sean. Abby has been great about a meet-
up in DC and figuring out a way to go see Greg. Of course, it will be
up to him.
I hope he stops by or drops a note to someone he has stayed in touch
with. Ania or Abby maybe? I'm just going to keep him in my thoughts
and be ready for a last minute visit if he is OK with that. Whatever
he is comfortable with is fine with me but I would like to see him on
behalf of lots of us here. Hope someone hears something from him
soon.
 
...
Posted: Mon Sep 21, 2009 1:46 am
Guest
On Sep 20, 12:02 am, dar <globe2s... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:
Quote:
I haven't heard anything yet Sean.  Abby has been great about a meet-
up in DC and figuring out a way to go see Greg.  Of course, it will be
up to him.
I hope he stops by or drops a note to someone he has stayed in touch
with.  Ania or Abby maybe?  I'm just going to keep him in my thoughts
and be ready for a last minute visit if he is OK with that.  Whatever
he is comfortable with is fine with me but I would like to see him on
behalf of lots of us here.   Hope someone hears something from him
soon.

Dear Greg,

This is a shock, i didn't even know you were ill until I checked back
in to have a quick look-see, and even though I thought I'd 'retired'
from the NG, I can't let this go by. We are all with you here, please
let us know how things are when you can. In all our thoughts, prayers,
and best wishes.

Love,
Fiona
 
michael...
Posted: Tue Sep 22, 2009 5:42 am
Guest
"Well, the address I had for Michael was obsolete (hard to imagine anything
about
Michael being obsolete) "

Exactly.

I rather liked the 45 rules. Did you say they were written by your daughter,
Babz?
 
dar...
Posted: Wed Sep 23, 2009 3:46 pm
Guest
FYI friends. Greg's sister Kim has posted on Jarkko's forum.
I hope she stops in here, where it all began, too.
(She mentions Greg's email is not working yet but that she is in
contact with him and that his family is staying close to him.)
 
 
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