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| Aaron H.... |
Posted: Thu Jul 09, 2009 6:44 pm |
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Hey all! I'm definitely a Cohen fan. I used to work in a music store
and my co-workers and I would play him in the store and call him Uncle
Lenny. He's a storyteller for our generation for sure. |
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| Beeswing... |
Posted: Fri Jul 10, 2009 12:55 am |
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Hi Aaron
I saw him for the first time this year in London. Absolute brilliance.
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Quote: Hey all! I'm definitely a Cohen fan. I used to work in a music store
and my co-workers and I would play him in the store and call him Uncle
Lenny. He's a storyteller for our generation for sure. |
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| Gill Smith... |
Posted: Tue Jul 14, 2009 5:44 am |
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"Beeswing" <beeswingREMOVE at (no spam) lycos.co.uk> wrote in message
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Quote: Hi Aaron
I saw him for the first time this year in London. Absolute brilliance.
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Hey all! I'm definitely a Cohen fan. I used to work in a music store
and my co-workers and I would play him in the store and call him Uncle
Lenny. He's a storyteller for our generation for sure.
He certainly wears better than Dylan
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new song, in memory of my father http://www.gillsmith999.plus.com/ |
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| Gill Smith... |
Posted: Tue Jul 14, 2009 5:52 am |
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"Beeswing" <beeswingREMOVE at (no spam) lycos.co.uk> wrote in message
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p.s. is that a reference to Richard Thompson?
if it isn't, then check out that song. It's one of his best
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| Beeswing... |
Posted: Tue Jul 14, 2009 2:12 pm |
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Hi
yes it is a reference to Richard Thompson,. Another great songwriter
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Quote: "Beeswing" <beeswingREMOVE at (no spam) lycos.co.uk> wrote in message
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p.s. is that a reference to Richard Thompson?
if it isn't, then check out that song. It's one of his best
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new song, in memory of my father http://www.gillsmith999.plus.com/
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| Gill Smith... |
Posted: Tue Jul 14, 2009 5:39 pm |
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"Beeswing" <beeswingREMOVE at (no spam) lycos.co.uk> wrote in message
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Quote: Hi
yes it is a reference to Richard Thompson,. Another great songwriter
I'm not particularly enamoured of RT's own version - it borders on the
mawkish
I've been trying to find the really good cover of that song by someone whose
name I can't remember
he's an old timer, playing it with much elan
can't locate it on iTunes
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song in memory of my father http://www.gillsmith999.plus.com/
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| JF... |
Posted: Tue Jul 14, 2009 9:10 pm |
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Gill Smith wrote:
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I've been trying to find the really good cover of that song by someone whose
name I can't remember
The CD is called 'His Master's Voice'. His name is....
It's in the shed. Hang on.
JF |
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| JohnB... |
Posted: Tue Jul 14, 2009 10:59 pm |
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On 15 July, 09:00, Jack Campin - bogus address
<bo... at (no spam) purr.demon.co.uk> wrote:
Quote: "Beeswing"
p.s. is that a reference to Richard Thompson?
if it isn't, then check out that song. It's one of his best
yes it is a reference to Richard Thompson
Or you might check out the Stewarts of Blair "Queen Among the
Heather", which is the same story told in better words with a
VASTLY better tune. (And I've never heard any performance of
it that wasn't incomparably more passionate than any performance
of anything by Richard Thompson).
There is a reason why so many people think all folk music is
mediocre crap, and the adulation accorded to bozos like Thompson
is a large part of it.
Well, that can't go unchallenged!
I agree there are a lot of people out there who think folk music to be
dull, repetetive and mediocre (but there are people who would say the
same of blues, heavy metal and modern dance music) - but I would
suggest that a lot of these people would be clueless as to who Richard
Thompson is too.
Ok, I'll accept that you're not a fan of Thompson but it's a little
extreme to blame him for "a large part" of the poor view many take of
folk music.
Thompson's singing has never been his strong suit - though he has
improved notably over the years - but the songs have many fans. This
is obvious by the number of Thompson originals that crop up in so many
performers' repertoires, mine included.
In my view, the poor image of the folk scene (from within) is largely
fuelled by the large number of amateurs who are still stuck were they
were when they started, having barely improved their technique whilst
tackling the same songs they started with all those years ago (plus
this polite way we applaud everything). From without, the stereotype
of folkies as beer-bellied (and tankard carrying) bearded blokes
singing shanties slightly off key or any number of other cartoon send-
ups is not sufficiently challenged. Ask random shoppers in the high
street and you'll soon get the picture. |
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| Mark Bluemel... |
Posted: Wed Jul 15, 2009 1:19 am |
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JF wrote:
Quote: Gill Smith wrote:
I've been trying to find the really good cover of that song by someone
whose name I can't remember
The CD is called 'His Master's Voice'. His name is....
It's in the shed. Hang on.
JF
Dave Burland? |
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Posted: Wed Jul 15, 2009 1:59 am |
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Mark Bluemel wrote:
Quote: It's in the shed. Hang on.
Dave Burland?
That's the chap.
JF |
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| Jack Campin - bogus address... |
Posted: Wed Jul 15, 2009 2:00 am |
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Quote: "Beeswing"
p.s. is that a reference to Richard Thompson?
if it isn't, then check out that song. It's one of his best
yes it is a reference to Richard Thompson
Or you might check out the Stewarts of Blair "Queen Among the
Heather", which is the same story told in better words with a
VASTLY better tune. (And I've never heard any performance of
it that wasn't incomparably more passionate than any performance
of anything by Richard Thompson).
There is a reason why so many people think all folk music is
mediocre crap, and the adulation accorded to bozos like Thompson
is a large part of it.
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| Beeswing... |
Posted: Thu Jul 16, 2009 8:27 am |
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Totally agree with John B. Thompsons voice has greatly improved and his
songwriting is among the best. Beeswing is not my favourite but just listen
to 'Take care the road you choose' or 'dimming of the day'. I do understand
why some people (probably the majority) don't get RT but lets not blame him
for all of life's ills.
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On 15 July, 09:00, Jack Campin - bogus address
<bo... at (no spam) purr.demon.co.uk> wrote:
Quote: "Beeswing"
p.s. is that a reference to Richard Thompson?
if it isn't, then check out that song. It's one of his best
yes it is a reference to Richard Thompson
Or you might check out the Stewarts of Blair "Queen Among the
Heather", which is the same story told in better words with a
VASTLY better tune. (And I've never heard any performance of
it that wasn't incomparably more passionate than any performance
of anything by Richard Thompson).
There is a reason why so many people think all folk music is
mediocre crap, and the adulation accorded to bozos like Thompson
is a large part of it.
Well, that can't go unchallenged!
I agree there are a lot of people out there who think folk music to be
dull, repetetive and mediocre (but there are people who would say the
same of blues, heavy metal and modern dance music) - but I would
suggest that a lot of these people would be clueless as to who Richard
Thompson is too.
Ok, I'll accept that you're not a fan of Thompson but it's a little
extreme to blame him for "a large part" of the poor view many take of
folk music.
Thompson's singing has never been his strong suit - though he has
improved notably over the years - but the songs have many fans. This
is obvious by the number of Thompson originals that crop up in so many
performers' repertoires, mine included.
In my view, the poor image of the folk scene (from within) is largely
fuelled by the large number of amateurs who are still stuck were they
were when they started, having barely improved their technique whilst
tackling the same songs they started with all those years ago (plus
this polite way we applaud everything). From without, the stereotype
of folkies as beer-bellied (and tankard carrying) bearded blokes
singing shanties slightly off key or any number of other cartoon send-
ups is not sufficiently challenged. Ask random shoppers in the high
street and you'll soon get the picture. |
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Posted: Thu Jul 16, 2009 9:42 am |
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In message <NqOdnfsY2pQY7MHXnZ2dnUVZ8i2dnZ2d at (no spam) brightview.co.uk>, Gill
Smith <gill.smith.999 at (no spam) googlemail.com> writes
Quote: "Beeswing" <beeswingREMOVE at (no spam) lycos.co.uk> wrote in message
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p.s. is that a reference to Richard Thompson?
if it isn't, then check out that song. It's one of his best
I'd ask who did the good version of that (I don't particularly care for
the versions doing the rounds at the moment), except that other people
may not agree with me which was the good version.
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| Tony F... |
Posted: Fri Jul 17, 2009 12:39 am |
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Would it not be fairer to say that the general public's view of what
constitutes "folk" and its proponents is conditioned by the mass media's
presentation of such?
Ask anyone who has been interviewed by a newspaper or radio station, how
accurately they have been represented by the final published material,
to get an idea of whether that is a good thing or not!
As far as the media are concerned, anybody that plays solo acoustic
guitar is instantly "folk", because categorising them in terms of what
they play is too taxing for their poor, overworked little brains.
To my mind, RT ceased to be a "folk" performer a long time back, (by my
own definition anyway) but that doesn't make him a bad person, and I'd
still cross the road for a live gig - in the way I wouldn't for, say,
James Blunt.
Actually I might throw myself into the road to avoid James Blunt............ |
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| Beeswing... |
Posted: Fri Jul 17, 2009 4:14 am |
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I agree totally. I'm sure Richard Thompson hates being labelled as 'folk
music'. Most music retailers (I still want to say record shops) have a folk
section without much actual folk in it.
"Tony F" <tony at (no spam) spamfritter.fisks.net> wrote in message
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Quote: Would it not be fairer to say that the general public's view of what
constitutes "folk" and its proponents is conditioned by the mass media's
presentation of such?
Ask anyone who has been interviewed by a newspaper or radio station, how
accurately they have been represented by the final published material, to
get an idea of whether that is a good thing or not!
As far as the media are concerned, anybody that plays solo acoustic guitar
is instantly "folk", because categorising them in terms of what they play
is too taxing for their poor, overworked little brains.
To my mind, RT ceased to be a "folk" performer a long time back, (by my
own definition anyway) but that doesn't make him a bad person, and I'd
still cross the road for a live gig - in the way I wouldn't for, say,
James Blunt.
Actually I might throw myself into the road to avoid James
Blunt............ |
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