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Seventh Son of a Seventh Son

On Mar 10, 8:29 pm, audiophi... at (no spam) gmail.com wrote:

I mostly agree.

Time to rank Maiden albums!

1. Killers
2. s/t
3. NOTB
4. Powerslave
5. POM
6. SSOASS

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The rest are irrelevant.

  I'd probably agree with the top six, but not in that order.
  The last bit is harsh, but unfair.

Tom

On Mar 11, 1:55 pm, Ritchie <Ritchie1... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:

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Seventh Son of a Seventh Son

  Hard to believe he could not figure that out with it being Iron
Maiden albums. Kevin, are you sure you have a working memory?

Tom

On Mar 11, 11:07 am, Soze <I... at (no spam) salsbury42.freeserve.co.uk> wrote:



I chop and change constantly...currently...

1. NotB
2. PoM
3. SSoaSS
4. s/t
5. Powerslave
6. Killers
7. BNW
8. SiT
9. AMoLaD
10. FotD
11. DoD
12. TXF
13. NPftD
14. VXI

  As bad as NPftD is, I'd probably still rate it ahead of TXF,

On Mar 10, 5:47 pm, Ritchie <Ritchie1... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:



On Mar 10, 7:25 pm, "tom_... at (no spam) juno.com" <tom.madm... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:

On Mar 10, 4:59 pm, Ritchie <Ritchie1... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:

  As I said about Maiden, I saw a lot of Maiden T-shirts in jr HS.
They were known. Yes, they'd be much bigger in a couple years.

Tom

They were known where you were from but on the east coast until NOTB
no metal head in my area gave a damn.

  They were known for their t-shirts. I did not actually hear the
first two albums until well after Bruce joined the band. Maybe he's an
a-hole, but after hearing his singing, and then hearing Paul's, I just
couldn't accept it.
  I have not heard Al Atkins' singing, but I am going to assume that I
won't accept it either.

Tom

I actually prefer the first 2 albums with Dianno over anything with
Bruce. Powerslave is the only one that comes close for me.

  I don't like Dianno's vocals. So, I can't agree.

On Mar 11, 7:22 pm, "tom_... at (no spam) juno.com" <tom.madm... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:
On Mar 11, 11:07 am, Soze <I... at (no spam) salsbury42.freeserve.co.uk> wrote:



I chop and change constantly...currently...
1. NotB
2. PoM
3. SSoaSS
4. s/t
5. Powerslave
6. Killers
7. BNW
8. SiT
9. AMoLaD
10. FotD
11. DoD
12. TXF
13. NPftD
14. VXI
As bad as NPftD is, I'd probably still rate it ahead of TXF,

I think the song Sign of the Cross is the best thing they've done in
that entire period.

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which is damning with faint praise...

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The rest are irrelevant.

  I'd probably agree with the top six, but not in that order.
  The last bit is harsh, but unfair.

Tom

To be quite honest IMO maiden has not done anything relevant since
Powerslave. I did like SSoaSS mildly when it was released but it
dropped quickly off the play list. Everything they have released
since, IMO is forgetful / uneventful and to a degree boring.

Seventh Son of a Seventh Son

  Hard to believe he could not figure that out with it being Iron
Maiden albums. Kevin, are you sure you have a working memory?

Tom

Sometimes I don't know myself...

  As bad as NPftD is, I'd probably still rate it ahead of TXF,

I think the song Sign of the Cross is the best thing they've done in
that entire period.

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which is damning with faint praise...

tom_... at (no spam) juno.com wrote:
On Mar 12, 9:45 am, audiophi... at (no spam) gmail.com wrote:

  As bad as NPftD is, I'd probably still rate it ahead of TXF,
I think the song Sign of the Cross is the best thing they've done in
that entire period.

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which is damning with faint praise...

  But it's sort of held back by two things. Blaze's vocals and the
overall length of the song. Just too long.

I think SotC s a brilliant song as it goes. I seem to recall Harris
saying he considers it one of the best songs he`s ever written which is
probably why he put it in the BNW tour setlist ( which on the face of it
looked an odd decision ). I don`t consider it too long although I guess
the intro wouldn`t miss a minute or so.

On Mar 12, 9:45 am, audiophi... at (no spam) gmail.com wrote:

As bad as NPftD is, I'd probably still rate it ahead of TXF,
I think the song Sign of the Cross is the best thing they've done in
that entire period.

e.
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which is damning with faint praise...

But it's sort of held back by two things. Blaze's vocals and the
overall length of the song. Just too long.

  But it's sort of held back by two things. Blaze's vocals and the
overall length of the song. Just too long.

I think SotC s a brilliant song as it goes. I seem to recall Harris
saying he considers it one of the best songs he`s ever written which is
probably why he put it in the BNW tour setlist ( which on the face of it
looked an odd decision ). I don`t consider it too long although I guess
the intro wouldn`t miss a minute or so.

I think the song is better with Blaze than with Bruce, to be honest.
It's sort of a "goth Maiden" tune, which suits his vocals and is
probably why I like it. The length doesn't bother me either, as it
actually feels epic rather than a 4-minute rocker turned into a 7-9
minute song (which is most of the post-reunion stuff).

There was another song on that album that I liked (the last one, I
think - it was fairly unconventional Maiden), but the rest is just
so ... meh.

e.
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the name of the rose

On Mar 13, 9:24 am, audiophi... at (no spam) gmail.com wrote:





  But it's sort of held back by two things. Blaze's vocals and the
overall length of the song. Just too long.

I think SotC s a brilliant song as it goes. I seem to recall Harris
saying he considers it one of the best songs he`s ever written which is
probably why he put it in the BNW tour setlist ( which on the face of it
looked an odd decision ). I don`t consider it too long although I guess
the intro wouldn`t miss a minute or so.

I think the song is better with Blaze than with Bruce, to be honest.
It's sort of a "goth Maiden" tune, which suits his vocals and is
probably why I like it. The length doesn't bother me either, as it
actually feels epic rather than a 4-minute rocker turned into a 7-9
minute song (which is most of the post-reunion stuff).

There was another song on that album that I liked (the last one, I
think - it was fairly unconventional Maiden), but the rest is just
so ... meh.

e.
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the name of the rose

  You both put forth reasonable points on this. To state it better, as
the songs go on TXF, I like Sign the most of the songs on it. I
remember only liking about 3 or 4 songs, though, and generally don't
like Blaze's vocals in IM. I have heard one or two of his solo songs,
and think he comes off much better. I guess it may be a case of
expectations of what a IM vocalist should sound like.

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On Mar 7, 3:53 pm, Ritchie <Ritchie1... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:

I think Kevin means here in the US because if I remember correctly
those bands mentioned were not that big here in 1980. For instance
Maiden was somewhat known but did not became a metal household name
until NOTB.

I remember kids wearing IM t-shirts when I was in 8th grade. A lot
of them. That would have been around 1979-80. I also remember a guy
having a big boom box blasting "Godzilla" one day. (BoC hit)
The only other boom box songs I can remember to this day, from high
school was some girl playing Billy Squires song the Stroke, and a guy
playing a song off of Aldo Nova's debut. (probably Fantasy) For the
life of me, I can't remember any other boom box moments.

For the time, I did like the Billy Squire song, but it's not
something I'd want to hear often. I think I heard the whole album,
once. As for Aldo Nova, I have heard his debut a good number of times.
Nostalgia I think, as it's very poppy looking back. His career came
and went very fast. I believe that debut sold a few million, while he
couldn't get arrested the next time out.

On Mar 8, 5:09 pm, Soze <I... at (no spam) salsbury42.freeserve.co.uk> wrote:
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On Mar 8, 4:45 pm, "tom_... at (no spam) juno.com" <tom.madm... at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote:
On Mar 8, 2:40 pm, Soze <I... at (no spam) salsbury42.freeserve.co.uk> wrote:

yea they had minor success, but none of those bands had had
British Steel like success until after Priest did. You Brits are
thick headed... lol j/k and yes I am talking about in the US I
can't speak for the rest of the world, but of course back then
the US was all that mattered as far as making it big.
Well, I naturally think of UK success first...I keep forgetting
that the US is all that matters in the world!
Forgive Kevin. He just can't understand that there are other
markets than just the US.

Tom

I think those markets are more important to a metal band in 2009 in
fact europe and asia is probably more valuable sales wise than the
US, but back in 1980 the US is where you came to make it big.
Priest and Sabbath before them already had success in Britain and
the rest of the Europe it was the US which was the brass ring.
Mainstream success in the US meant selling albums in the millions,
touring a country with many 100's of huge venues, MTV videos etc...
it meant you were big. That is why I say the US mattered more back
then.

Priest concentrated heavily on the US and Japan to the point where
they suffer a little now when they tour Europe compared to their
contemporaries. In fact Rob Halford is basically an American with a
Brittish accent at this point.

I knew what you meant Kev, just ribbing you...did Motorhead ever
make it big in the US?

No not even the Ace of Spades album got too much attention.
Motorhead has some notoriety among metal circles (my friends knew
about them for example) and their videos made rare appearance on
radio/ tv metal shows of the day, but that's about it. I realize
Motorhead was bigger in your country because I remember playing a
imported game on my Amiga back in the day where you play as Lemmy and
get to beat up rappers and poseurs.... the good old days.

Motorhead and indeed even Metallica were never played on the radio.
You didn't hear Metallica until the and Justice for all album took
off, ironically they play songs from the earlier albums on the radio
now. Megadeth made it on the radio with their Symphony of
Destruction album. I never heard Slayer on the radio. Aside from
the song/video Balls to the wall you would think Accept was a one hit
wonder in the US... Priest and Maiden (the same 3 or 4 songs from
both bands) got lots of radio play when I was a kid.