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| catastrophic success |
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think of troy, alexander, king arthur, etc.
was it gladiator? crouching tiger? |
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| walter mitty |
| Posted: Tue Sep 07, 2004 8:42 am |
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kaydigi wrote:
Quote: "catastrophic success" <janehanois@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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think of troy, alexander, king arthur, etc.
was it gladiator? crouching tiger?
LOTR, simple and plain.
except, LOTR isn't an historical epic. Plain and simple. |
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| Autodidact |
| Posted: Tue Sep 07, 2004 9:02 am |
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| Ronald Gebhardt |
| Posted: Tue Sep 07, 2004 11:11 am |
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"walter mitty" <mitticus@yahoo.co.uk> schreef in bericht
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Quote: kaydigi wrote:
"catastrophic success" <janehanois@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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LOTR, simple and plain.
except, LOTR isn't an historical epic. Plain and simple.
True. But LOTR gave Studio heads an example of how popular costume dramas
were becoming again.
Hence, the slate of historical movies with more or less fantastic elements. |
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| catastrophic success |
| Posted: Tue Sep 07, 2004 2:07 pm |
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walter mitty <mitticus@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message news:<chkhci$r0j$05$1@news.t-online.com>...
Quote: kaydigi wrote:
"catastrophic success" <janehanois@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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think of troy, alexander, king arthur, etc.
was it gladiator? crouching tiger?
LOTR, simple and plain.
except, LOTR isn't an historical epic. Plain and simple.
it's a quasi-historical epic. indeed, most historical epics have
nothing to do with history.
any big spectacle supposedly taking place in some distant past is a
defacto historical epic.
if star wars story had been set in roman times, it'd be an historical
epic. |
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| Guest |
| Posted: Tue Sep 07, 2004 5:08 pm |
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On 7-Sep-2004, walter mitty <mitticus@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
Quote: except, LOTR isn't an historical epic. Plain and simple.
Which doesn't mean it won't trigger producers into producing historical
epics. They can be weird in how they try to copy success. |
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| Guest |
| Posted: Tue Sep 07, 2004 5:08 pm |
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On 7-Sep-2004, janehanois@hotmail.com (catastrophic success) wrote:
Quote: if star wars story had been set in roman times, it'd be an historical
epic.
Instead it's a prehistoric epic? |
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| ggull |
| Posted: Tue Sep 07, 2004 7:58 pm |
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<howard@brazee.net> wrote
Quote: On 7-Sep-2004, walter mitty <mitticus@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
except, LOTR isn't an historical epic. Plain and simple.
Which doesn't mean it won't trigger producers into producing historical
epics. They can be weird in how they try to copy success.
And what they'll never see in a million years is that LOTR had 50 years of
Tolkein readers going for it, not costume drama geeks. |
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| Tim Chmielewski |
| Posted: Tue Sep 07, 2004 10:02 pm |
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| hnow |
| Posted: Wed Sep 08, 2004 12:29 pm |
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janehanois@hotmail.com (catastrophic success) wrote in message news:<bfda06a9.0409062253.279cc5ab@posting.google.com>...
Quote: think of troy, alexander, king arthur, etc.
was it gladiator? crouching tiger?
The enormous success of Gladiator and it's Oscar win is the reason why
we are seeing such films as Troy, King Arthur, and Alexander coming
out now. There's also a Hannibal project in the works. If Gladiator
had failed miserably, then Ridley Scott might have given up on
historical epics and he certainly would have had a hard time getting a
studio to get behind his upcoming Kingdom of Heaven. It's also what
opened the door to Fox going ahead with Master and Commander. That
project sat around for years until they saw Gladiator's success and
were finally convinced to do it.
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| Guest |
| Posted: Wed Sep 08, 2004 5:24 pm |
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On 7-Sep-2004, Tim Chmielewski <chuma@dcsi.net.au> wrote:
Quote: The Emperor and the Assassin came out in 1999 and supposedly had 300,000
people in the battle scenes (not CGI.)
Even there they won't do this much. Labor is getting to be expensive all
over, and that was a costume flick. Maybe if they get the equivalent of
Civil War buffs to do their stuff.
I don't see why they needed that many people though - to have the emperor
ride out in front of them. How much did it cost? |
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| hnow2000 |
| Posted: Thu Sep 09, 2004 12:55 am |
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howard@brazee.net wrote in message news:<Abr%c.10013$w%6.3757@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net>...
Quote: On 7-Sep-2004, walter mitty <mitticus@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
except, LOTR isn't an historical epic. Plain and simple.
Which doesn't mean it won't trigger producers into producing historical
epics. They can be weird in how they try to copy success.
Might have an effect on additional CGI loaded fantasy to come out, but
it didn't come out before Gladiator, so it's not the reason why we
have more historical epics coming out these days. |
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