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| Allan Pengelly |
Posted: Thu Aug 12, 2004 7:12 pm |
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G'day Folks (that should give my origins away )
I have always had a fascination with movies made in other parts of the world
outside the U.S.A., Britain and Australia as I get quite intrigued by other
cultures views on life and love. In Australia, as we have a large ethnic
population we have a FTA station that caters to it, but also to those of us
who subscribe to satellite T.V. we have "World Movies" which is among my
favourites. The intriguing thing I have found with the movies there is that
beside having to concentrate and read the subtitles (BTW, I've found that
women do not like that as they cannot knit, iron, polish their nails or
whatever while watching, unlike us men who can only focus on one thing at a
time, apparently:)) sometimes you really have to use your brain to work out
where the director is taking you. As examples, "Under the Sand", "Open Your
Eyes" (remade as "Vanilla Sky") and "The Circle" which I unforunately could
not make head nor tail of. My own favourite is "Queen Margo" which I am also
looking out for on DVD for my favourites collection. Any kindred spirits out
there?
Allan |
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| Joe McC |
Posted: Thu Aug 12, 2004 7:38 pm |
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"Allan Pengelly" <allpen@bigpond.com> wrote in message
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Quote: G'day Folks (that should give my origins away  )
I have always had a fascination with movies made in other parts of the
world
outside the U.S.A., Britain and Australia .................. Any kindred
spirits out
there?
Allan
Have a look at all of Luis Bunuel's work.......it'll twist your melon, man
(Steve McQueen, 1968)
then onto Claude Chabrol.............. |
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| Allan Pengelly |
Posted: Fri Aug 13, 2004 8:21 pm |
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Hello, Samurai
"Samurai PD" <pardeep.bhakar@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
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Quote: Other World Treasures:
Infernal Affairs
Malena
The Killer
Brotherhood of te Wolf
Defintiely a kindred spirit. Have seen (and ejoyed) them all. Perhaps we
should start compiling a list.
Those that I found memorable (which I guess is the way I should go, as if I
have to look them up they would not have been memorable, now would they?)
In The Realm Of The Senses
City On Fire (which is supposed to have been the inspiration for Tarantino's
"Reservoir Dogs" but I did not see much of a simlilarity)
Betty Blue
The Road Home
Tango
Tie Me Up, Tie Me Down
Alexandria
A Ma Souer (Which was translated here as "Fat Girl", but if I still remember
enough of of my schoolboy French actually should mean "For My Sister".
I am leaving out those that made it into mainstream cinema such as
"Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon" or "Run, Lola Run" as well as those where I
remember the movie but not the title, but we should give those taking an
interest in foreign (to them) cinema an idea of what to look for next time
they are at their local rental outlet, or if like me they have access to a
World Movies channel.
Allan |
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| Nick Legrand |
Posted: Sat Aug 14, 2004 8:17 am |
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Try to watch Oldboy/...ING (both south-korean movies)
"Allan Pengelly" <allpen@bigpond.com> wrote in message
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Quote: Hello, Samurai
"Samurai PD" <pardeep.bhakar@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
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Other World Treasures:
Infernal Affairs
Malena
The Killer
Brotherhood of te Wolf
Defintiely a kindred spirit. Have seen (and ejoyed) them all. Perhaps we
should start compiling a list.
Those that I found memorable (which I guess is the way I should go, as if
I
have to look them up they would not have been memorable, now would they?)
In The Realm Of The Senses
City On Fire (which is supposed to have been the inspiration for
Tarantino's
"Reservoir Dogs" but I did not see much of a simlilarity)
Betty Blue
The Road Home
Tango
Tie Me Up, Tie Me Down
Alexandria
A Ma Souer (Which was translated here as "Fat Girl", but if I still
remember
enough of of my schoolboy French actually should mean "For My Sister".
I am leaving out those that made it into mainstream cinema such as
"Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon" or "Run, Lola Run" as well as those where
I
remember the movie but not the title, but we should give those taking an
interest in foreign (to them) cinema an idea of what to look for next time
they are at their local rental outlet, or if like me they have access to a
World Movies channel.
Allan
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| Allan Pengelly |
Posted: Mon Aug 16, 2004 6:15 pm |
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Hello,
"> Did you see just recently on SBS the other version of the Sada story -
Quote: called Sada strangely enough - which was such a different take on the
story?
Amazingly quirky, real fondness for the characters, a polar opposite to
the
dark decline presented in "Realm".
No, but that is one I will look out for, although I doubt that it would have
the same explicit sex scenes as "Realm" which is probably the closest thing
to an X-Rated movie I have seen unless I'd bought it myself :)
Quote: And how uncanny was it watching Open Your Eyes, where every shot had been
copied by the Tom Cruise version!
Quite so, made even more uncanny by Penelope Cruz playing the same character
in both films, although in my case I saw "Open Your Eyes" first. I think
that those who have seen both would agree that original was far superior to
the copy. Another I am trying to put titles to where I've seen both the
original and the remake: the plot is a young couple stop at a service
station and the girl vanishes. Through flashbacks, we learn that she was
kidnapped by (on the surface) a regular nice family man who uses various
ploys to lure women into his car. What happens to them afterward (and to the
boyfriend who tries to find out) is the basic plot, but I do not want to
give too much away in case we are inspiring other movie buffs out there to
start taking an interest in foreign films.
Quote: It's nice that quite a few foreign language flicks are getting on the
shelves at the mainstream video stores too. Russian Ark is out, and apart
from the technical achievement, the movie is really very good in it's own
right.
This is still screening on World Movies and I have caught up with it,
thinking that the basic idea (a sort of guided tour around a museum) would
bore me completely, but the concept and its execution kept me waiting to see
what was behind the next door.
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| Joe McC |
Posted: Tue Aug 17, 2004 9:04 pm |
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"Allan Pengelly" <allpen@bigpond.com> wrote in message
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Quote: Hello again.
This flick is "The Vanishing", by a Dutch chap I think. Waaaay better
than
the Keifer Sutherland effort, packs a hell of a punch.
I really like Peter Greenaway flicks too, not really foreign, but
certainly
a "foreign" experience when viewed against the mainstream.
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Quote: Personally, my enjoyment of foreign films is not just the different
slant they put on life and love but because sometimes you really need to
have your brain in gear to understand them, and not just because it is a
bit
difficult to doze off when you are reading subtitles. A good example is
one
I mentioned called "Under the Sand" which also made it into mainstream
cinema (but has not been copied yet) where the director really makes you
put
your thinking cap on.
Greenaway is so difficult to decide upon - his movies are more about
artistic expression than narrative - even where there *is* a story.
Normally, I'd class his output as pretentious, self indulgent, wasteful &
elitist - red-mist inducing gibberish. But, if so, why have I watched most
of them & accepted them for what they are? Like Lynch, you slip into his
universe - it's like dropping acid.
On the subject of world movies, I just watched an Icelandic film on the BBC
(101 Reykjavik) & felt entertained from start to finish. Hadn't planned on
watching it, but the comedy, overall tone, performances & story were fun.
(Shiftless but likeable son, living off mum's good graces develops a crush
on mature female dance teacher....and so does his loving mum, a kind hearted
closet lesbian who's put up with too much shit from him & his long departed
drunken dad). Seek it out. |
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| Allan Pengelly |
Posted: Wed Aug 18, 2004 8:05 pm |
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Hello, Joe
Quote: On the subject of world movies, I just watched an Icelandic film on the
BBC
(101 Reykjavik) & felt entertained from start to finish. Hadn't planned on
watching it, but the comedy, overall tone, performances & story were fun.
(Shiftless but likeable son, living off mum's good graces develops a crush
on mature female dance teacher....and so does his loving mum, a kind
hearted
closet lesbian who's put up with too much shit from him & his long
departed
drunken dad). Seek it out.
I think this reinforces my point that one of the main attractions of foreign
movies is the different slant you get on life. I could not imagine two
countries with totally opposite cultures, climate, etc. than Iceland and
Australia, yet I recently watched a movie from Iceland called "The Seagull's
Laughter" which I thoroughly enjoyed, not perhaps so much from the story
(the basic plot synopsis was a woman moves back to her home in Iceland when
her husband dies, after living in the U.S. for ten years) but from the view
I was getting on how the other half lives. I have not caught up with "101
Reykjavik" yet, but have seen it in the lists either on World Movies or the
FTA ethnic channel we have here. However the latter is tied up at the moment
with the Olympics so I will certainly look out for it afterward.
Allan |
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| Joe McC |
Posted: Wed Aug 18, 2004 8:58 pm |
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"Allan Pengelly" <allpen@bigpond.com> wrote in message
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On the subject of world movies, I just watched an Icelandic film on the
BBC (101 Reykjavik) & felt entertained from start to finish.
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Quote: Hello, Joe
I think this reinforces my point that one of the main attractions of
foreign
movies is the different slant you get on life. I could not imagine two
countries with totally opposite cultures, climate, etc. than Iceland and
Australia, yet I recently watched a movie from Iceland called "The
Seagull's
Laughter" which I thoroughly enjoyed, not perhaps so much from the story
(the basic plot synopsis was a woman moves back to her home in Iceland
when
her husband dies, after living in the U.S. for ten years) but from the
view
I was getting on how the other half lives. I have not caught up with "101
Reykjavik" yet, but have seen it in the lists either on World Movies or
the
FTA ethnic channel we have here. However the latter is tied up at the
moment
with the Olympics so I will certainly look out for it afterward.
You're right Allan, I think that the appeal of "indie" movies is similar -
getting an 'insiders' slant of whatever environment is portrayed, (even if
it's the director / writer's interior landscape)
Another enchanting movie you might like: 'The Hairdresser's Husband'. It
had me mesmerised first time i saw it, just like the original La Cage au
Folles.
Usually, I'm addicted to mainstream escapism or old classics, but now and
then it's worth testing out foreign climes.... |
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| Moe Belli |
Posted: Wed Aug 18, 2004 10:55 pm |
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Joe McC wrote:
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Quickie list of my fave world cinema flicks:
Babettes Feast
Pelle The Conqueror
The Official Story (Luis Puenzo)
My Left Foot
Cinema Paradiso
Night of The Shooting Stars (Taviani Bros)
La Strada
Jean de Florette/Momon of the Springs
The Tin Flute
Summer (Erik Rohmer)
These films knocked my socks off, all true masterpieces.
Haven't seen The Official Story or Summer, but I admire the selection from
you & Allan...erm, except The Tin Drum. I know it's highly regarded, but it
dredges up bad memories of my pretentious youth, when you were considered a
dimwit if you hadn't read Gunther Grass, or discussed Sartre or Kafka down
the local trendy wine bar.......
Other than the movies you mention, my personal faves include:
The Hairdresser's Husband
The Phantom of Liberty
Discreet Charm of the Bourgeoisie
That Obscure Object of Desire
Les Bicyclettes de Belsize (mainly because of the theme song)
Jules et Jim
Night for Day
Alphaville
La Cabina (1972, tv short film)
Metamorphosis
Wings of Desire
Fitzcarraldo
Le Boucher
This may sound odd, but these aren't necessarily movies I "enjoy" in an
escapist sense, but for various reasons they've captivated me because they
were "accessible" & so I return to them every couple of years. The Bunuel
movies are the exception....his stuff is genuinely laugh out loud slapstick
funny at times.
Great list, interestingly enough, most movies on your list I haven't
seen yet, but have really wanted to.
I forgot Wings of Desire, I'd say it would be on my top ten list of the
best movies ever.
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| Joe McC |
Posted: Thu Aug 19, 2004 12:57 pm |
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"Moe Belli" <mbelli@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
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Quote: Joe McC wrote:
"MB" <mbelli@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
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Quote: Other than the movies you mention, my personal faves include:
The Hairdresser's Husband
The Phantom of Liberty
Discreet Charm of the Bourgeoisie
That Obscure Object of Desire
Les Bicyclettes de Belsize (mainly because of the theme song)
Jules et Jim
Night for Day
Alphaville
La Cabina (1972, tv short film)
Metamorphosis
Wings of Desire
Fitzcarraldo
Le Boucher
This may sound odd, but these aren't necessarily movies I "enjoy" in an
escapist sense, but for various reasons they've captivated me because
they
were "accessible" & so I return to them every couple of years. The
Bunuel
movies are the exception....his stuff is genuinely laugh out loud
slapstick
funny at times.
Great list, interestingly enough, most movies on your list I haven't
seen yet, but have really wanted to.
I forgot Wings of Desire, I'd say it would be on my top ten list of the
best movies ever.
I've just realised most of my selection have an escapist or fantasy element
in them. If you have to choose one to start with, go for the Bunuel
movies.......he'll surprise you in so many fresh ways.......Phantom is a
delight.
Forget I mentioned Metamorphosis - I'm being pretentious with that 'un,
although it'd make a good double bill with The Tin Drum. |
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| Allan Pengelly |
Posted: Fri Aug 20, 2004 2:21 am |
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G'day, Joe.
Quote:
Another enchanting movie you might like: 'The Hairdresser's Husband'. It
had me mesmerised first time i saw it, just like the original La Cage au
Folles.
Usually, I'm addicted to mainstream escapism or old classics, but now and
then it's worth testing out foreign climes....
We are getting a pretty good list together here for people starting to sit
up and take notice of foreign films. I am reminded of the old line
"Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery" and perhaps did not realise
before this thread just how many foreign films have been copied (usually
badly) by Hollywood. You have given me another I'll be looking out for so I
will throw some more titles into the mix:
Kandahar
Lovers On The Point Noeuf
Amelie (although that could be considered mainstream)
Les Boys
However even with foreign films I could plagarise (and take poetic licence
with) another famous saying: "You can please all of the people some of the
time, some of the people all of the time, but you cannot please all of the
people all of the time" I think that would apply to any movie list anyone
here has been asked to compile, no matter what the criteria.
Allan |
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| Joe McC |
Posted: Fri Aug 20, 2004 1:01 pm |
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"Allan Pengelly" <allpen@bigpond.com> wrote in message
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Quote: G'day, Joe.
We are getting a pretty good list together here for people starting to sit
up and take notice of foreign films. I am reminded of the old line
"Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery" and perhaps did not realise
before this thread just how many foreign films have been copied (usually
badly) by Hollywood. You have given me another I'll be looking out for so
I
will throw some more titles into the mix:
Kandahar
Lovers On The Point Noeuf
Amelie (although that could be considered mainstream)
Les Boys
However even with foreign films I could plagarise (and take poetic licence
with) another famous saying: "You can please all of the people some of the
time, some of the people all of the time, but you cannot please all of the
people all of the time" I think that would apply to any movie list anyone
here has been asked to compile, no matter what the criteria.
I'll check 'em out, Allan
I also think the older you get, the more nostalgia influences personal
taste...look at all those Transformers Movie lovers.
My fave is The Singing Ringing Tree which I saw in serial form in the 70s on
tv
http://us.imdb.com/title/tt0052199/
so surreal & bizarre it made me buy the dvd release from play.com. Used to
watch it straight after school on the BBC.
I'm also partial to one very early anime - 'Tetsujin 28-go' (known better
as Gigantor to western audiences). Another late 60s childrens classic on
british telly. I think it's the only anime I've ever seen. |
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