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| James Nowiczewski |
 Posted: Thu Jul 01, 2004 3:02 pm |
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Hi Guys,
I don't want to start up a standards debate, but I am trying to get an
idea of what you guys are delivering out there with some of the
multi-track formats.
Down here in Oz there isn't a hell of a lot of it going on - the vast
majority of productions are still being done with t/c dat. I know for
dailies there is a real focus on delivering a useful track - so what
are guys putting down on the four-track formats? Doesn't seem to be a
lot left by the time you deliver a stereo "master" track for many
isolated mic tracks.
Also, what format are you guys delivering at the end of the day's
shoot.I'm not even sure that the film labs over here are even set up
to accept anything other than t/c dat for dailys syncing.
My main motivation is with the new Sound Devices four track coming
out.
Sorry if this has all been covered before, but I am sniffing out a new
article.
Thanks guys,
James Nowiczewski
PS Thanks to everyone who responded to my 302 level debate - you guy's
really a very well informed, generous bunch! Sound Devices are doing
everything in their power to getting it sorted out - as you all
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| Jeff Wexler |
| Posted: Thu Jul 01, 2004 3:51 pm |
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On 7/1/04 2:02 PM, in article
9a93bdf2.0407011302.5cd340b6@posting.google.com, "James Nowiczewski"
<mail@soundspeed.net.au> wrote:
Quote: Hi Guys,
I don't want to start up a standards debate, but I am trying to get an
idea of what you guys are delivering out there with some of the
multi-track formats.
Certainly one, possibly two, mixed tracks on a daily basis for transfer to
prepare in the chosen format, dailies screening (whatever format is desired:
projected film dailies, video dailies - standard or hi-def, etc.) and track
for picture editorial workstation (most often an Avid but with Final Cut Pro
increasing in use).
Quote:
Down here in Oz there isn't a hell of a lot of it going on - the vast
majority of productions are still being done with t/c dat. I know for
dailies there is a real focus on delivering a useful track - so what
are guys putting down on the four-track formats? Doesn't seem to be a
lot left by the time you deliver a stereo "master" track for many
isolated mic tracks.
I don't think a "stereo" (2 track) master track is necessary from
production. A mono mixed track, for the above stated reasons, leaves 3
tracks on a Deva II (Sound Devices and others as they become available) for
isolated discreet tracks. Therefore, with a 4 track machine, if the scene
only requires 3 elements, you would be able to deliver a mixed track and the
3 elements discreet on the other tracks. Now, if the scene requires more
elements and there is the desire to provide the opportunity to do complete
mixes later from these elements, more tracks will be needed.
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Also, what format are you guys delivering at the end of the day's
shoot.I'm not even sure that the film labs over here are even set up
to accept anything other than t/c dat for dailys syncing.
In the U.S., the most common form for delivery of non-linear sound files to
the facility or the lab has been DVD-RAM disk with broadcast wave files.
This is because this is the way we have been doing it with the Deva for the
last 5 years. It is only within the last year or so that there have even
been any other production machines out there for our use. As things evolve
and more and more people make the move to non-linear, we shall see what
formats, procedures and workflows emerge.
It is true that most of the labs in your region, including New Zealand's
facility built originally to service Lord of the Rings, are not specifically
geared up for anything other than DAT at the dailies level. This is because,
as you state, there has not been much work turned in on formats other than
DAT. When we did The Last Samurai, sound transfer daily work was being done
for us at Film Unit (part of Weta) and they did our dailies off a DAT I sent
them. This was because they were not willing to install and configure
equipment in their transfer channel to accommodate non-linear media. Even
though I explained that they already had all the equipment they needed in
place there and all that was required was a new configuration and some new
procedures, the facility still insisted that they would have to charge the
company more money to accommodate our production (which I thought was
somewhat punitive but I guess that is the way they wanted to do business).
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My main motivation is with the new Sound Devices four track coming
out.
Just use the Sound Devices 744T as if it were a 2 track DAT with 2 more
tracks. Let the production know what you will be delivering and have them
make the deal with the facility that can handle it.
Regards, Jeff Wexler |
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