Just saw Dassin's "Night and the City". �A great movie. �Richard Widmark
is a small-time hustler trying to fast talk his way to scoring the big
one. �And, there aren't many who can play a crook better than Herbert
Lom. though Francis L. Sullivan comes close. �Reminded me of "Odd Man
Out" - the city, here London rather than Dublin, is dangerous, dark,
menacing and ultimately deadly. �Cinematography is outstanding. �Though
I thought the wrestling match was a bit much - too many kidney punches,
and too long. �Any thoughts on this last? � �
--
FUB

Just saw Dassin's "Night and the City".  A great movie.  Richard Widmark
is a small-time hustler trying to fast talk his way to scoring the big
one.  And, there aren't many who can play a crook better than Herbert
Lom. though Francis L. Sullivan comes close.  Reminded me of "Odd Man
Out" - the city, here London rather than Dublin, is dangerous, dark,
menacing and ultimately deadly.  Cinematography is outstanding.  Though
I thought the wrestling match was a bit much - too many kidney punches,
and too long.  Any thoughts on this last?    
--

Just saw Dassin's "Night and the City". A great movie. Richard Widmark
is a small-time hustler trying to fast talk his way to scoring the big
one. And, there aren't many who can play a crook better than Herbert
Lom. though Francis L. Sullivan comes close. Reminded me of "Odd Man
Out" - the city, here London rather than Dublin, is dangerous, dark,
menacing and ultimately deadly. Cinematography is outstanding. Though
I thought the wrestling match was a bit much - too many kidney punches,
and too long. Any thoughts on this last?
--
FUB

On Oct 20, 1:45 pm, test... at (no spam) deadiguana.net wrote:

Just saw Dassin's "Night and the City". A great movie. Richard Widmark
is a small-time hustler trying to fast talk his way to scoring the big
one. And, there aren't many who can play a crook better than Herbert
Lom. though Francis L. Sullivan comes close. Reminded me of "Odd Man
Out" - the city, here London rather than Dublin, is dangerous, dark,
menacing and ultimately deadly. Cinematography is outstanding. Though
I thought the wrestling match was a bit much - too many kidney punches,
and too long. Any thoughts on this last?
--
FUB

I thought Odd Man Out was set in Northern Ireland, or near the border?
It's been a while.

test... at (no spam) deadiguana.net> wrote in message

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Just saw Dassin's "Night and the City".  A great movie.  Richard Widmark
is a small-time hustler trying to fast talk his way to scoring the big
one.  And, there aren't many who can play a crook better than Herbert
Lom. though Francis L. Sullivan comes close.  Reminded me of "Odd Man
Out" - the city, here London rather than Dublin, is dangerous, dark,
menacing and ultimately deadly.  Cinematography is outstanding.  Though
I thought the wrestling match was a bit much - too many kidney punches,
and too long.  Any thoughts on this last?
--
FUB

That is an interesting comparison, because I think more people are reminded
of The Third Man. Certainly Harry Fabian v. Harry Lime, the steel cage death
match, would be interesting.

Graham Greene based Harry Lime on his ex-boss Kim Philby.

That's ridiculous. Lime bears no similarities with Philby. None. A

On Oct 20, 1:45�pm, test... at (no spam) deadiguana.net wrote:
Just saw Dassin's "Night and the City". �A great movie. �Richard
Widmark is a small-time hustler trying to fast talk his way to
scoring the big one. �And, there aren't many who can play a crook
better than Herbert Lom. though Francis L. Sullivan comes close.
�Reminded me of "Odd Man Out" - the city, here London rather than
Dublin, is dangerous, dark, menacing and ultimately deadly.
�Cinematography is outstanding. �Though I thought the wrestling match
was a bit much - too many kidney punches, and too long. �Any thoughts
on this last? � � --
FUB

I thought Odd Man Out was set in Northern Ireland, or near the border?
It's been a while.

On Oct 21, 8:22 am, Mark <weiss.sl... at (no spam) yahoo.com> wrote:





On Oct 21, 1:45 am, Dave in Toronto <dmatthew... at (no spam) sympatico.ca> wrote:

On Oct 21, 12:50 am, Mark <weiss.sl... at (no spam) yahoo.com> wrote:

On Oct 20, 8:54 pm, Dave in Toronto <dmatthew... at (no spam) sympatico.ca> wrote:

On Oct 20, 5:31 pm, "Kingo Gondo" <kingo_nospam_go... at (no spam) gmail.com
wrote:

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Just saw Dassin's "Night and the City".  A great movie.  Richard Widmark
is a small-time hustler trying to fast talk his way to scoring the big
one.  And, there aren't many who can play a crook better than Herbert
Lom. though Francis L. Sullivan comes close.  Reminded me of "Odd Man
Out" - the city, here London rather than Dublin, is dangerous, dark,
menacing and ultimately deadly.  Cinematography is outstanding.  Though
I thought the wrestling match was a bit much - too many kidney punches,
and too long.  Any thoughts on this last?
--
FUB

That is an interesting comparison, because I think more people are reminded
of The Third Man. Certainly Harry Fabian v. Harry Lime, the steel cage death
match, would be interesting.

I'd take Harry Lime.  Fabian was just a low-rent street hustler..
Graham Greene based Harry Lime on his ex-boss Kim Philby.

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Sorry, but that's complete hogwash. I've been studying Greene for
years and have never come across that one. Do you have some personal
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No I don't but I do know that Greene, like most writers, often based
his characters on people he had known and worked with and I don't
think it's quite the stretch that you guys think it is.  

It's certainly a stretch to say "Greene based his character on Kim
Philby" when no evidence exists to suggest he did.
It would certainly be accurate to say that the media has said that he
did but that's quite a different thing. Considering the volumes of
stuff that Greene has left us and his omnipresence for so many decades
I would venture to say that if Greene had actually based Lime on
Philby there would exist tons of quotes from Greene to that effect. He
wasn't shy about speaking his mind. Since that doesn't exist, I think
we can conclude that he did no such thing.- Hide quoted text -

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Whatever the truth it appears to be drifting into movie nostalgia as a
fact.  Interesting to read imdb's trivia on the movie -http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0041959/trivia-  Quiet a few of their "facts"
are questionable I have to admit.

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