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| Matt Barry... |
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| Posted: Tue Jul 08, 2008 4:31 pm |
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Matt Barry filted:
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Has anyone else heard about this, or heard of any kind of follow-up?
http://www.marx-brothers.org/marxology/
If true, this is quite a discovery. Not on the level of the recent
"Metropolis" discovery, of course, but still proof that this stuff can even
turn up after so many years.
Now if someone could just turn up a pristine print of "Giraffes on Horseback
Salads"....r
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| haywood jablomy... |
| Posted: Wed Jul 09, 2008 12:17 am |
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R H Draney wrote:
Quote: Matt Barry filted:
Has anyone else heard about this, or heard of any kind of follow-up?
http://www.marx-brothers.org/marxology/
If true, this is quite a discovery. Not on the level of the recent
"Metropolis" discovery, of course, but still proof that this stuff can even
turn up after so many years.
Now if someone could just turn up a pristine print of "Giraffes on Horseback
Salads"....r
or "Humorisk"... |
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| Posted: Thu Jul 10, 2008 7:19 am |
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On Jul 8, 5:28 pm, "Matt Barry" <bar... at (no spam) bellatlantic.net> wrote:
Quote: Has anyone else heard about this, or heard of any kind of follow-up?
http://www.marx-brothers.org/marxology/
If true, this is quite a discovery. Not on the level of the recent
"Metropolis" discovery, of course, but still proof that this stuff can even
turn up after so many years.
But, if I read the article correctly, this print still lacks the
original opening, in which everyday Italians sing their hearts out
before we get to the hotel restaurant scene with Groucho Marx and
Margaret Dumont.
I've long thought that one place the opening would survive is - Italy.
Has anyone looked there? |
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| Posted: Thu Jul 10, 2008 7:52 am |
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On Jul 10, 1:46 pm, "Matt Barry" <bar... at (no spam) bellatlantic.net> wrote:
Quote: MrBuddw... at (no spam) aol.com> wrote in message
But, if I read the article correctly, this print still lacks the
original opening, in which everyday Italians sing their hearts out
before we get to the hotel restaurant scene with Groucho Marx and
Margaret Dumont.
There's speculation, though, that this scene was cut *before* the general
1935 release, and not for the 1948 reissue. It seems odd that this print
that was discovered would include all the other missing bits except this
sequence.
Not that it proves things one way or the other, but the MGM cutting
continuity for "Opera" (a microfilmed copy of which resides at the
Library of Congress in Washington, D.C.) describes the original
opening in detail. It's summarized in the trivia section for this
movie at the Internet Movie Database. (And yes, I was the one who
contributed the IMDb trivia entry.) |
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| Matt Barry... |
| Posted: Thu Jul 10, 2008 12:46 pm |
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<MrBuddwing at (no spam) aol.com> wrote in message
news:01f2d8ca-d5e8-4eb7-aae3-f2f6ba9cf046 at (no spam) 26g2000hsk.googlegroups.com...
Quote: On Jul 8, 5:28 pm, "Matt Barry" <bar... at (no spam) bellatlantic.net> wrote:
Has anyone else heard about this, or heard of any kind of follow-up?
http://www.marx-brothers.org/marxology/
If true, this is quite a discovery. Not on the level of the recent
"Metropolis" discovery, of course, but still proof that this stuff can
even
turn up after so many years.
But, if I read the article correctly, this print still lacks the
original opening, in which everyday Italians sing their hearts out
before we get to the hotel restaurant scene with Groucho Marx and
Margaret Dumont.
I've long thought that one place the opening would survive is - Italy.
Has anyone looked there?
There's speculation, though, that this scene was cut *before* the general
1935 release, and not for the 1948 reissue. It seems odd that this print
that was discovered would include all the other missing bits except this
sequence.
It's news like this that makes me wonder how many, if any, "old" films
(especially precode films) we have today survive in their original form?
When you consider the multiple reissues that many of these films had, plus
the numerous edits made for early television, it's very hard to know for
sure. A case in point is the 1947 film "Miracle on 34th Street". The master
print, held in Fox's vault (and used to master the TV as well as video and
DVD copies), is apparently missing at least two sequences that have been
spotted in other prints.
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Matt Barry
View my films at: www.youtube.com/comedyfilm
Read my blog at: http://filmreel.blogspot.com |
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| dsikula at (no spam) yahoo.com... |
| Posted: Fri Jul 11, 2008 1:49 pm |
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On Jul 8, 2:31 pm, R H Draney <dadoc... at (no spam) spamcop.net> wrote:
Quote: Matt Barry filted:
Has anyone else heard about this, or heard of any kind of follow-up?
http://www.marx-brothers.org/marxology/
If true, this is quite a discovery. Not on the level of the recent
"Metropolis" discovery, of course, but still proof that this stuff can even
turn up after so many years.
Now if someone could just turn up a pristine print of "Giraffes on Horseback
Salads"....r
The heck with that; I want to see an uncut "Horse Feathers."
--Dave Sikula |
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| Posted: Sat Jul 12, 2008 2:12 am |
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On Jul 11, 7:49 pm, "dsik... at (no spam) yahoo.com" <dsik... at (no spam) yahoo.com> wrote:
Quote: On Jul 8, 2:31 pm, R H Draney <dadoc... at (no spam) spamcop.net> wrote:
Matt Barry filted:
Has anyone else heard about this, or heard of any kind of follow-up?
http://www.marx-brothers.org/marxology/
If true, this is quite a discovery. Not on the level of the recent
"Metropolis" discovery, of course, but still proof that this stuff can even
turn up after so many years.
Now if someone could just turn up a pristine print of "Giraffes on Horseback
Salads"....r
The heck with that; I want to see an uncut "Horse Feathers."
--Dave Sikula
HUMOR RISK would be nice, too.
Bob |
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| Matt Barry... |
| Posted: Sat Jul 12, 2008 9:21 am |
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"boblipton" <boblipton at (no spam) nyc.rr.com> wrote in message
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Quote: On Jul 11, 7:49 pm, "dsik... at (no spam) yahoo.com" <dsik... at (no spam) yahoo.com> wrote:
On Jul 8, 2:31 pm, R H Draney <dadoc... at (no spam) spamcop.net> wrote:
Matt Barry filted:
Has anyone else heard about this, or heard of any kind of follow-up?
http://www.marx-brothers.org/marxology/
If true, this is quite a discovery. Not on the level of the recent
"Metropolis" discovery, of course, but still proof that this stuff can
even
turn up after so many years.
Now if someone could just turn up a pristine print of "Giraffes on
Horseback
Salads"....r
The heck with that; I want to see an uncut "Horse Feathers."
--Dave Sikula
HUMOR RISK would be nice, too.
Bob
The odds of something like HUMOR RISK showing up at this point are very
slim, because there were so few prints made (possibly only one, if Groucho's
story is to be believed).
What amazes me about A NIGHT AT THE OPERA, and HORSE FEATHERS, is that these
are films that played in thousands of theatres across the world. How uncut
prints of HORSEFEATHERS still haven't turned up, and A NIGHT AT THE OPERA
has been recovered sixty years after it was edited, is beyond me.
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Matt Barry
View my films at: www.youtube.com/comedyfilm
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