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spiritus...
Posted: Thu May 08, 2008 6:44 pm
Guest
I've told a few friends that I got La Roue, and how I enjoyed it. The
only thing is I have no French friends to ask how it's pronounced.

I've been saying (Roo-eh), but.......???

When I was 15 with my first girlfriend we were going to see the Discrete
Charm of the Bourgeois. Until someone told me differently at the end
of the evening, I was saying we were going to see the Discrete charm of
the "Ber-gois-ehh"!!! Quell Damage!! My only comment was "why didn't you
tell me before I said it 300 times!?"

Next to ber-gois-ehh mispronouncing La Roue, is a trifle but I'd like to
know the correct way....


Anyone know? Thanks

spiritus
...
Posted: Thu May 08, 2008 6:44 pm
Guest
On May 8, 6:44 pm, spiritus <NoS... at (no spam) mindspring.com> wrote:
Quote:
I've told a few friends that I got La Roue, and how I enjoyed it. The
only thing is I have no French friends to ask how it's pronounced.

I've been saying (Roo-eh), but.......???

When I was 15 with my first girlfriend we were going to see the Discrete
  Charm of the Bourgeois. Until someone told me differently at the end
of the evening, I was saying we were going to see the Discrete charm of
the "Ber-gois-ehh"!!! Quell Damage!! My only comment was "why didn't you
tell me before I said it 300 times!?"

Next to ber-gois-ehh mispronouncing La Roue, is a trifle but I'd like to
know the correct way....

Anyone know? Thanks

spiritus

La Roue is pronounced la roo.
Rou-eh sounds like French Canadian Wink
rodney at (no spam) mont-alto.com...
Posted: Thu May 08, 2008 6:44 pm
Guest
On May 8, 5:44 pm, spiritus <NoS... at (no spam) mindspring.com> wrote:
Quote:
I've told a few friends that I got La Roue, and how I enjoyed it. The
only thing is I have no French friends to ask how it's pronounced.

I've been saying (Roo-eh), but.......???

When I was 15 with my first girlfriend we were going to see the Discrete
  Charm of the Bourgeois. Until someone told me differently at the end
of the evening, I was saying we were going to see the Discrete charm of
the "Ber-gois-ehh"!!! Quell Damage!! My only comment was "why didn't you
tell me before I said it 300 times!?"

Next to ber-gois-ehh mispronouncing La Roue, is a trifle but I'd like to
know the correct way....

Anyone know? Thanks

spiritus

Some confusion may come from the fact that both Roue (roo) and Roué
(Roo-ay) are French words. The first is a wheel, the second (with an
accent aigue on the e, in case that doesn't show up in your browser)
means a worldly cad. The film is Roue, as in wheel.

Rodney
Lloyd Fonvielle...
Posted: Thu May 08, 2008 7:24 pm
Guest
spiritus wrote:

Quote:
I've told a few friends that I got La Roue, and how I enjoyed it. The
only thing is I have no French friends to ask how it's pronounced.

I've been saying (Roo-eh), but.......???

When I was 15 with my first girlfriend we were going to see the Discrete
Charm of the Bourgeois. Until someone told me differently at the end of
the evening, I was saying we were going to see the Discrete charm of the
"Ber-gois-ehh"!!! Quell Damage!! My only comment was "why didn't you
tell me before I said it 300 times!?"

Next to ber-gois-ehh mispronouncing La Roue, is a trifle but I'd like to
know the correct way....

Anyone know? Thanks

It's "Roo" but if you don't roll the "R" it doesn't sound the way it
sounds in French.



Mar de Cortes Baja

www.mardecortesbaja.com <http://www.mardecortesbaja.com/blog>
spiritus...
Posted: Fri May 09, 2008 12:00 am
Guest
rodney at (no spam) mont-alto.com wrote:
Quote:
On May 8, 5:44 pm, spiritus <NoS... at (no spam) mindspring.com> wrote:
I've told a few friends that I got La Roue, and how I enjoyed it. The
only thing is I have no French friends to ask how it's pronounced.

I've been saying (Roo-eh), but.......???

When I was 15 with my first girlfriend we were going to see the Discrete
Charm of the Bourgeois. Until someone told me differently at the end
of the evening, I was saying we were going to see the Discrete charm of
the "Ber-gois-ehh"!!! Quell Damage!! My only comment was "why didn't you
tell me before I said it 300 times!?"

Next to ber-gois-ehh mispronouncing La Roue, is a trifle but I'd like to
know the correct way....

Anyone know? Thanks

spiritus

Some confusion may come from the fact that both Roue (roo) and Roué
(Roo-ay) are French words. The first is a wheel, the second (with an
accent aigue on the e, in case that doesn't show up in your browser)
means a worldly cad. The film is Roue, as in wheel.

Rodney
thanks everyone who responded. I reckon I'll drop the "eh" when I say

the name of this film, that seems to be the answer I was looking for. I
was in fact wondering about the "worldly cad" word, roue... and
wondering how the same word can mean all at the same time wheel, worldly
cad, and street. Though I suppose street is just spelled rou, still it
sounds the same.

One night in Paris I gave a group of film addicted Parisians (but that
is another story) a hilarious (apparently) evening as I attempted to
pronounce the difference between "fou" and "fou" (sp?) one meaning fool
the other meaning fire. They took turns pronouncing for me the (obvious)
difference, and found it unendingly (and somewhat tiresomely) amusing as
I got it wrong every time. Go figure the French.....

spiritus
Lloyd Fonvielle...
Posted: Fri May 09, 2008 12:12 am
Guest
spiritus wrote:

Quote:
. . . I suppose street is just spelled rou, still it
sounds the same.

No, street is rue -- pronounced more like rew, but you still need to
roll the r. That's the rub.

Quote:
One night in Paris I gave a group of film addicted Parisians (but that
is another story) a hilarious (apparently) evening as I attempted to
pronounce the difference between "fou" and "fou" (sp?) one meaning fool
the other meaning fire. They took turns pronouncing for me the (obvious)
difference, and found it unendingly (and somewhat tiresomely) amusing as
I got it wrong every time. Go figure the French.....

Fire is feu . . . pronounced more like fuh, with a very short u.



Mar de Cortes Baja

www.mardecortesbaja.com <http://www.mardecortesbaja.com/blog>
...
Posted: Fri May 09, 2008 7:59 am
Guest
I Love Mauritz Stiller's films. Pity there are only 3 of them after
that fire in the film vault.

You'll hopefully be happy to learn that there are a few more surviving
examples of the great Mauritz Stiller's art.
THOMAS GRAAL'S BEST FILM
THOMAS GRAAL'S FIRST CHILD
HERR ARNES PENGAR
EROTIKON
JOHAN
GUNNAR HEDES SAGA
GÖSTA BERLINGS SAGA
HOTEL IMPERIAL
THE TEMPTRESS
THE WOMAN ON TRIAL
THE STREET OF SIN
Opry phantom...
Posted: Fri May 09, 2008 8:45 am
Guest
On May 8, 10:12 pm, Lloyd Fonvielle <navigareNOS... at (no spam) cox.net> wrote:
Quote:
spiritus wrote:
. . . I suppose street is just spelled rou, still it
sounds the same.

No, street is rue -- pronounced more like rew, but you still need to
roll the r.  That's the rub.

One night in Paris I gave a group of film addicted Parisians (but that
is another story) a hilarious (apparently) evening as I attempted to
pronounce the difference between "fou" and "fou" (sp?) one meaning fool
the other meaning fire. They took turns pronouncing for me the (obvious)
difference, and found it unendingly (and somewhat tiresomely) amusing as
I got it wrong every time. Go figure the French.....

Fire is feu . . . pronounced more like fuh, with a very short u.

Mar de Cortes Baja


The French: A strange race - drole de cocos
spiritus...
Posted: Fri May 09, 2008 10:38 am
Guest
Kingo Gondo wrote:
Quote:
"spiritus" <NoSpam at (no spam) mindspring.com> wrote in message
news:S7ednUN8XujKDb7VnZ2dnUVZ_jidnZ2d at (no spam) earthlink.com...
I've told a few friends that I got La Roue, and how I enjoyed it. The only
thing is I have no French friends to ask how it's pronounced.

I've been saying (Roo-eh), but.......???

When I was 15 with my first girlfriend we were going to see the Discrete
Charm of the Bourgeois. Until someone told me differently at the end of
the evening, I was saying we were going to see the Discrete charm of the
"Ber-gois-ehh"!!! Quell Damage!! My only comment was "why didn't you tell
me before I said it 300 times!?"

Next to ber-gois-ehh mispronouncing La Roue, is a trifle but I'd like to
know the correct way....


Anyone know? Thanks

spiritus

Hey, I am just impressed that you have a few friends who would care that you
bought the DVD of a 85 year old French silent film that runs four and half
hours! I think you should throw a La Roue party for them--this would be
mind-blowing to read about.


They really do deserve a party for having so patiently listened to what

must amount to hours of me talking about silent movies. I have a feeling
they endure it to an extent. Though one has actually obtained and
watched silents I've mentioned (I can't wait to see what she thinks of
The Saga of Gosta Berling, at 3 hours long). I Love Mauritz Stiller's
films. Pity there are only 3 of them after that fire in the film vault.

Another is coming to visit and said she wants to "see some of your
silent movies" But she's also the person who commented (when I bought
some $37 movie)"For a Silent!?, I just bought Felini's Roma for $12 and
it has sound!" So I'm not sure what to show her...

spiritus
Kingo Gondo...
Posted: Fri May 09, 2008 12:30 pm
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"spiritus" <NoSpam at (no spam) mindspring.com> wrote in message
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Quote:


Kingo Gondo wrote:
"spiritus" <NoSpam at (no spam) mindspring.com> wrote in message
news:S7ednUN8XujKDb7VnZ2dnUVZ_jidnZ2d at (no spam) earthlink.com...
I've told a few friends that I got La Roue, and how I enjoyed it. The
only thing is I have no French friends to ask how it's pronounced.

I've been saying (Roo-eh), but.......???

When I was 15 with my first girlfriend we were going to see the Discrete
Charm of the Bourgeois. Until someone told me differently at the end of
the evening, I was saying we were going to see the Discrete charm of the
"Ber-gois-ehh"!!! Quell Damage!! My only comment was "why didn't you
tell me before I said it 300 times!?"

Next to ber-gois-ehh mispronouncing La Roue, is a trifle but I'd like to
know the correct way....


Anyone know? Thanks

spiritus

Hey, I am just impressed that you have a few friends who would care that
you bought the DVD of a 85 year old French silent film that runs four and
half hours! I think you should throw a La Roue party for them--this would
be mind-blowing to read about.
They really do deserve a party for having so patiently listened to what
must amount to hours of me talking about silent movies. I have a feeling
they endure it to an extent. Though one has actually obtained and watched
silents I've mentioned (I can't wait to see what she thinks of The Saga of
Gosta Berling, at 3 hours long). I Love Mauritz Stiller's films. Pity
there are only 3 of them after that fire in the film vault.

Another is coming to visit and said she wants to "see some of your silent
movies" But she's also the person who commented (when I bought some $37
movie)"For a Silent!?, I just bought Felini's Roma for $12 and it has
sound!" So I'm not sure what to show her...

spiritus

Actually that is an interesting question: Generically (which is all it can
be, without knowing the friend in question), what is the first silent you
would show to a friend? Let's make it harder, and rule out a comedy. Let's
further assume the friend is reasonably intelligent, and not a hopeless case
to start with (i.e. someone who disdains B&W movies).
Matt Barry...
Posted: Fri May 09, 2008 12:38 pm
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"Kingo Gondo" <kingo_nospam_gondo at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote in message
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"spiritus" <NoSpam at (no spam) mindspring.com> wrote in message
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Kingo Gondo wrote:
"spiritus" <NoSpam at (no spam) mindspring.com> wrote in message
news:S7ednUN8XujKDb7VnZ2dnUVZ_jidnZ2d at (no spam) earthlink.com...
I've told a few friends that I got La Roue, and how I enjoyed it. The
only thing is I have no French friends to ask how it's pronounced.

I've been saying (Roo-eh), but.......???

When I was 15 with my first girlfriend we were going to see the
Discrete Charm of the Bourgeois. Until someone told me differently at
the end of the evening, I was saying we were going to see the Discrete
charm of the "Ber-gois-ehh"!!! Quell Damage!! My only comment was "why
didn't you tell me before I said it 300 times!?"

Next to ber-gois-ehh mispronouncing La Roue, is a trifle but I'd like
to know the correct way....


Anyone know? Thanks

spiritus

Hey, I am just impressed that you have a few friends who would care that
you bought the DVD of a 85 year old French silent film that runs four
and half hours! I think you should throw a La Roue party for them--this
would be mind-blowing to read about.
They really do deserve a party for having so patiently listened to what
must amount to hours of me talking about silent movies. I have a feeling
they endure it to an extent. Though one has actually obtained and watched
silents I've mentioned (I can't wait to see what she thinks of The Saga
of Gosta Berling, at 3 hours long). I Love Mauritz Stiller's films. Pity
there are only 3 of them after that fire in the film vault.

Another is coming to visit and said she wants to "see some of your silent
movies" But she's also the person who commented (when I bought some $37
movie)"For a Silent!?, I just bought Felini's Roma for $12 and it has
sound!" So I'm not sure what to show her...

spiritus

Actually that is an interesting question: Generically (which is all it can
be, without knowing the friend in question), what is the first silent you
would show to a friend? Let's make it harder, and rule out a comedy. Let's
further assume the friend is reasonably intelligent, and not a hopeless
case to start with (i.e. someone who disdains B&W movies).


Ruling out comedy, I'd probably start with a Fairbanks swashbuckler ("The
Mark of Zorro" is one of the best). That would be both a fairly
easy-to-follow film for a first-time viewer, as well as a lot of fun. The
horror films, especially "The Phantom of the Opera" and "Nosferatu", also
both go over well with first-time audiences.

That said, if someone wanted to see what I considered to be the finest
silent films, not necessarily for the "entertainment value" but to see the
artistic heights of the medium, I'd start with Griffith (probably "Broken
Blossoms"), or certainly some of the great German expressionist masterpieces
("The Last Laugh" being my personal favorite).

--
Matt Barry
View my films at: www.youtube.com/comedyfilm
Read my blog at: http://filmreel.blogspot.com
spiritus...
Posted: Fri May 09, 2008 1:22 pm
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Matt Barry wrote:
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"Kingo Gondo" <kingo_nospam_gondo at (no spam) gmail.com> wrote in message
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"spiritus" <NoSpam at (no spam) mindspring.com> wrote in message
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Kingo Gondo wrote:
"spiritus" <NoSpam at (no spam) mindspring.com> wrote in message
news:S7ednUN8XujKDb7VnZ2dnUVZ_jidnZ2d at (no spam) earthlink.com...
I've told a few friends that I got La Roue, and how I enjoyed it.
The only thing is I have no French friends to ask how it's pronounced.

I've been saying (Roo-eh), but.......???

When I was 15 with my first girlfriend we were going to see the
Discrete Charm of the Bourgeois. Until someone told me differently
at the end of the evening, I was saying we were going to see the
Discrete charm of the "Ber-gois-ehh"!!! Quell Damage!! My only
comment was "why didn't you tell me before I said it 300 times!?"

Next to ber-gois-ehh mispronouncing La Roue, is a trifle but I'd
like to know the correct way....


Anyone know? Thanks

spiritus

Hey, I am just impressed that you have a few friends who would care
that you bought the DVD of a 85 year old French silent film that
runs four and half hours! I think you should throw a La Roue party
for them--this would be mind-blowing to read about.
They really do deserve a party for having so patiently listened to
what must amount to hours of me talking about silent movies. I have a
feeling they endure it to an extent. Though one has actually obtained
and watched silents I've mentioned (I can't wait to see what she
thinks of The Saga of Gosta Berling, at 3 hours long). I Love Mauritz
Stiller's films. Pity there are only 3 of them after that fire in the
film vault.

Another is coming to visit and said she wants to "see some of your
silent movies" But she's also the person who commented (when I bought
some $37 movie)"For a Silent!?, I just bought Felini's Roma for $12
and it has sound!" So I'm not sure what to show her...

spiritus

Actually that is an interesting question: Generically (which is all it
can be, without knowing the friend in question), what is the first
silent you would show to a friend? Let's make it harder, and rule out
a comedy. Let's further assume the friend is reasonably intelligent,
and not a hopeless case to start with (i.e. someone who disdains B&W
movies).


Ruling out comedy, I'd probably start with a Fairbanks swashbuckler
("The Mark of Zorro" is one of the best). That would be both a fairly
easy-to-follow film for a first-time viewer, as well as a lot of fun.
The horror films, especially "The Phantom of the Opera" and "Nosferatu",
also both go over well with first-time audiences.

That said, if someone wanted to see what I considered to be the finest
silent films, not necessarily for the "entertainment value" but to see
the artistic heights of the medium, I'd start with Griffith (probably
"Broken Blossoms"), or certainly some of the great German expressionist
masterpieces ("The Last Laugh" being my personal favorite).

I actually was thinking of Phantom of the Opera, since it's entertaining

and so nicely tinted. Also considering Jekyll and Hyde for similar
reason, and I happen for some reason to find it endlessly watchable.
Of course my real favorites are out of the question, which begs the
question; why, "of course". I'm not sure but I just know that they are.

spiritus
spiritus...
Posted: Fri May 09, 2008 7:13 pm
Guest
WOW!
Thank you! That's great, he's really my favorite director judging only
of course on the 3 of his films I was aware of: Gosta Berling, Erotikon,
and Sir Arne's Treasure, which I think in your list is "herr arnes pengar".

I'm off to try and find these now. Hope they're on DVD or VHS, but even
if they're not,,, at least they exist.

thanks again
spiritus

arndt.pawelczik at (no spam) koeln.de wrote:
Quote:
I Love Mauritz Stiller's films. Pity there are only 3 of them after
that fire in the film vault.

You'll hopefully be happy to learn that there are a few more surviving
examples of the great Mauritz Stiller's art.
THOMAS GRAAL'S BEST FILM
THOMAS GRAAL'S FIRST CHILD
HERR ARNES PENGAR
EROTIKON
JOHAN
GUNNAR HEDES SAGA
GÖSTA BERLINGS SAGA
HOTEL IMPERIAL
THE TEMPTRESS
THE WOMAN ON TRIAL
THE STREET OF SIN
Jerry...
Posted: Sat May 10, 2008 3:11 am
Guest
What to show a first time silent movie watcher?

I think I'd go with ROBIN HOOD or perhaps BEN HUR. Something with a
story that's already somewhat familiar.

Silly, but one of my all time favorites is TEMPEST with John
Barrymore.

Another choice might be WINGS or THE BIG PARADE if it were available
in a DVD copy.
rodney at (no spam) mont-alto.com...
Posted: Sat May 10, 2008 3:30 am
Guest
On May 10, 7:11 am, Jerry <jerf... at (no spam) aol.com> wrote:
Quote:
What to show a first time silent movie watcher?

I think I'd go with ROBIN HOOD or perhaps BEN HUR.  Something with a
story that's already somewhat familiar.

Doug Fairbanks is a good idea, and I love ROBIN HOOD, but both of the
movies you mention take a while to get going, and (as Will Rogers
pointed out) the leaping through the forest in ROBIN HOOD is a bit too
easy to laugh at by modern audiences. You really want that first
experience to draw them in and be enjoyable from the first frame. For
a first time viewer I'd go with THE MARK OF ZORRO or THE BLACK PIRATE.
Or, of course, almost anything by Keaton, Lloyd, Charley Chase, or
Chaplin.

Quote:
Another choice might be WINGS or THE BIG PARADE if it were available
in a DVD copy.

Of course, the BEST way to introduce someone to silent film is not on
DVD but at a theater. The whole spectacle of the auditorium, the
audience being seated, the musician(s), the dimming lights, the
curtains opening, the image coming up on screen -- it lets the new
viewer know what silent films were all about, and makes it easier to
watch others on DVD. It's easier to listen to operas on the radio once
you've seen a couple live to know what the ideal context is.

Rodney Sauer
Mont Alto Motion Picture Orchestra
www.mont-alto.com
 
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