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Agent Smith...
Posted: Fri May 09, 2008 4:12 am
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El Klauso <Klaus01 at (no spam) verizon.net> wrote in news:9619ef8d-ce67-4f7c-b886-
5b4d7662ab6c at (no spam) w7g2000hsa.googlegroups.com:

Quote:
tomcervo wrote: They're not re-making the book; they're re-making the
movie.

EK: No one claimed that.

tc: No one judges the movies in comparison to the novel.

EK: Well, I'll admit to being in the minority on this, but I do like
to reference the original sources to see what has been neglected or
suppressed.

Some wonderful imagery and symbolism that would really make for a boring
art film, if put onto the screen. Like the Lovecraft that I'm reading now,
translating the old classics to film is usually a losing proposition, since
the brilliant prose of the original only works on the printed page.
Agent Smith...
Posted: Fri May 09, 2008 1:05 pm
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El Klauso <Klaus01 at (no spam) verizon.net> wrote in news:2e9e2488-258d-4605-a73c-
d30cb56b25e5 at (no spam) 24g2000hsh.googlegroups.com:

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AS: Some wonderful imagery and symbolism that would really make for a
boring
art film, if put onto the screen.  

EK: In many cases, such as multiple adaptations of "Eyre," about one-
third of the plot gets trimmed - well beyond the abandonment of a few
passages of wordplay.

What you so dismissively refer to as "wordplay" is often what makes classic
literature such a treat to read. Smile
El Klauso...
Posted: Sat May 10, 2008 2:06 pm
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I'm not dismissing it, I'm describing it. There is great artistic
wordplay, and there is useless babbling wordplay; but it's still
wordplay. Wink
El Klauso...
Posted: Sat May 10, 2008 5:36 pm
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....last word...
Agent Smith...
Posted: Sat May 10, 2008 7:25 pm
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El Klauso <Klaus01 at (no spam) verizon.net> wrote in news:e74c6d9a-63ff-4ff9-960c-
e5c5cb4268ba at (no spam) 56g2000hsm.googlegroups.com:

Quote:
I'm not dismissing it, I'm describing it. There is great artistic
wordplay, and there is useless babbling wordplay; but it's still
wordplay. Wink

Poetry is so much more than wordplay. ?Sad
Brad Filippone...
Posted: Wed Sep 03, 2008 6:59 am
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Agent Smith (agent-smith at (no spam) two-blocks-on-your-left.com) wrote:
: El Klauso <Klaus01 at (no spam) verizon.net> wrote in news:9619ef8d-ce67-4f7c-b886-
: 5b4d7662ab6c at (no spam) w7g2000hsa.googlegroups.com:

: > tomcervo wrote: They're not re-making the book; they're re-making the
: > movie.
: >
: > EK: No one claimed that.
: >
: > tc: No one judges the movies in comparison to the novel.
: >
: > EK: Well, I'll admit to being in the minority on this, but I do like
: > to reference the original sources to see what has been neglected or
: > suppressed.

: Some wonderful imagery and symbolism that would really make for a boring
: art film, if put onto the screen. Like the Lovecraft that I'm reading now,
: translating the old classics to film is usually a losing proposition, since
: the brilliant prose of the original only works on the printed page.

That's true for Dickens adaptations as well, yet there have been a few
brilliant Dickens movies over the years.

Brad
...
Posted: Thu Sep 04, 2008 1:29 pm
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On Sep 3, 12:59 pm, al... at (no spam) chebucto.ns.ca (Brad Filippone) wrote:
Quote:

That's true for Dickens adaptations as well, yet there have been a few
brilliant Dickens movies over the years.  

The choice of actress sucks, but as long as this isn't the subject, it
would be interesting to see an adaptation of this interminable
novelfilm that asked the question: What the Hell is the second part of
the book about? (Rhetorical question, partly; it's about Charlotte
Bronte's inability to choose between St. John and Rochester.) St.
John has always been either discarded completely or reduced ad
absurdum.
nick...
Posted: Thu Sep 04, 2008 2:43 pm
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On Sep 4, 7:35 pm, Derek Janssen <ejan... at (no spam) nospam.verizon.net> wrote:
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mute... at (no spam) yahoo.com wrote:
On Sep 3, 12:59 pm, al... at (no spam) chebucto.ns.ca (Brad Filippone) wrote:

That's true for Dickens adaptations as well, yet there have been a few
brilliant Dickens movies over the years.  

The choice of actress sucks, but as long as this isn't the subject, it
would be interesting to see an adaptation of this interminable
novelfilm that asked the question: What the Hell is the second part of
the book about? (Rhetorical question, partly; it's about Charlotte
Bronte's inability to choose between St. John and Rochester.)  St.
John has always been either discarded completely or reduced ad
absurdum.

And more importantly, why are they making *another* one when we didn't
even notice the Franco Zefferelli/William Hurt version twelve years ago?

The one with Charlotte Gainsbourg? It was actually pretty good.

Ellen Page in a costume drama? I dunno. Her bag of tricks at this
point in her filmography appears limited.
...
Posted: Thu Sep 04, 2008 3:09 pm
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On Sep 4, 7:35 pm, Derek Janssen
Quote:

And more importantly, why are they making *another* one when we didn't
even notice the Franco Zefferelli/William Hurt version twelve years ago?

That version sucked too. William Hurt is a woman-beater and has been
typecast, since this fact has been public (only, like, for twenty-five
years) as increasingly wild basket cases.

Mr. Rochester's not a basket case; he's a "tormented soul."
Derek Janssen...
Posted: Thu Sep 04, 2008 6:35 pm
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mutefan at (no spam) yahoo.com wrote:

Quote:
On Sep 3, 12:59 pm, al... at (no spam) chebucto.ns.ca (Brad Filippone) wrote:

That's true for Dickens adaptations as well, yet there have been a few
brilliant Dickens movies over the years.


The choice of actress sucks, but as long as this isn't the subject, it
would be interesting to see an adaptation of this interminable
novelfilm that asked the question: What the Hell is the second part of
the book about? (Rhetorical question, partly; it's about Charlotte
Bronte's inability to choose between St. John and Rochester.) St.
John has always been either discarded completely or reduced ad
absurdum.

And more importantly, why are they making *another* one when we didn't
even notice the Franco Zefferelli/William Hurt version twelve years ago?

Derek Janssen (admit it, YOU had to look it up on IMDB too...)
ejanss1 at (no spam) verizon.net
trotsky...
Posted: Thu Sep 04, 2008 7:17 pm
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Derek Janssen wrote:
Quote:
mutefan at (no spam) yahoo.com wrote:

On Sep 3, 12:59 pm, al... at (no spam) chebucto.ns.ca (Brad Filippone) wrote:

That's true for Dickens adaptations as well, yet there have been a few
brilliant Dickens movies over the years.


The choice of actress sucks, but as long as this isn't the subject, it
would be interesting to see an adaptation of this interminable
novelfilm that asked the question: What the Hell is the second part of
the book about? (Rhetorical question, partly; it's about Charlotte
Bronte's inability to choose between St. John and Rochester.) St.
John has always been either discarded completely or reduced ad
absurdum.

And more importantly, why are they making *another* one when we didn't
even notice the Franco Zefferelli/William Hurt version twelve years ago?


Here's one for moviepig: To Eyre is human...
Alric Knebel...
Posted: Fri Sep 05, 2008 6:35 am
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mutefan at (no spam) yahoo.com wrote:
Quote:
On Sep 4, 7:35 pm, Derek Janssen

And more importantly, why are they making *another* one when we
didn't even notice the Franco Zefferelli/William Hurt version twelve
years ago?

That version sucked too. William Hurt is a woman-beater and has been
typecast, since this fact has been public (only, like, for twenty-five
years) as increasingly wild basket cases.

That's not true at all. Not even remotely.
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trotsky...
Posted: Fri Sep 05, 2008 7:52 am
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Alric Knebel wrote:
Quote:
mutefan at (no spam) yahoo.com wrote:
On Sep 4, 7:35 pm, Derek Janssen
And more importantly, why are they making *another* one when we
didn't even notice the Franco Zefferelli/William Hurt version twelve
years ago?
That version sucked too. William Hurt is a woman-beater and has been
typecast, since this fact has been public (only, like, for twenty-five
years) as increasingly wild basket cases.

That's not true at all. Not even remotely.


Are you new to mutefan's posts?
Alric Knebel...
Posted: Fri Sep 05, 2008 8:17 pm
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trotsky wrote:
Quote:
Alric Knebel wrote:
mutefan at (no spam) yahoo.com wrote:
On Sep 4, 7:35 pm, Derek Janssen
And more importantly, why are they making *another* one when we
didn't even notice the Franco Zefferelli/William Hurt version
twelve years ago?
That version sucked too. William Hurt is a woman-beater and has been
typecast, since this fact has been public (only, like, for
twenty-five years) as increasingly wild basket cases.

That's not true at all. Not even remotely.


Are you new to mutefan's posts?

No. But I thought the remark demanded a challenge. I think he might have
had some problems in his marriage, but wiping him away as a woman-beater and
then saying it tainted his entire career is way over the top.
--

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tomcervo...
Posted: Sat Sep 06, 2008 2:59 am
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On Sep 4, 7:29�pm, mute... at (no spam) yahoo.com wrote:
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On Sep 3, 12:59�pm, al... at (no spam) chebucto.ns.ca (Brad Filippone) wrote:



That's true for Dickens adaptations as well, yet there have been a few
brilliant Dickens movies over the years. �

The choice of actress sucks, but as long as this isn't the subject, it
would be interesting to see an adaptation of this interminable
novelfilm that asked the question: What the Hell is the second part of
the book about? (Rhetorical question, partly; it's about Charlotte
Bronte's inability to choose between St. John and Rochester.) �St..
John has always been either discarded completely or reduced ad
absurdum.

If you believe that the author was writing about herself, the casting
is physically perfect; Bronte herself was less than 5' tall.
 
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