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| Ty Ford |
 Posted: Mon May 05, 2008 3:04 pm |
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Anyone have any anecdotal info on how well the CS-3e does outside in tropical
climates?
Regards,
Ty Ford
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| dblocation... |
| Posted: Mon May 05, 2008 3:04 pm |
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i had my cs-3e in the rain forrest for a couple of days, full rycote
(light foam, basket, fleece, fur) and it got wet. i didn't need it
much until the end of the day, at which point it started to crackle,
so i unplugged it and put it down for the day. i dried it out the
best i could in a warm dry hotel room. very unscientifically, it
seems to have gone downhill ever since. it started to sound really
dull, muddy, not what i'd come to expect from it, but gradually. i
recently had it back out in costa rica (high humidity) last month and
it really didn't sound right. no crackling, but it just lost it's
magic to put it mildly. i'm not sure if it was already head downhill
before the first time it got wet, but i'm sure it's never been the
same since.
interestingly, when i took it to get serviced, the technician said he
compared it to one they had in rentals, only to notice it had the same
or similar problem.
i'm curious to hear others experience. |
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| Boomboom... |
| Posted: Mon May 05, 2008 3:08 pm |
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| Joe... |
| Posted: Mon May 05, 2008 4:35 pm |
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On May 5, 4:04 pm, Ty Ford <tyreef... at (no spam) comcast.net> wrote:
Quote: Anyone have any anecdotal info on how well the CS-3e does outside in tropical
climates?
Regards,
Ty Ford
Alright I would say but not great...It does exhibit some strange
artifacts in the sound.....very faint fuzz crackling noise.
I used it till begins to act up and then switch to my Mkh 60 which I
never had problems with in tropical humid rainy climates.Not all of
them do this....I have feedback from about 20 soundrecordists at the
network ,they all have CS-3e's ...not all of them have complained
about this type of problem ( actually just a couple of guys )...so ,
some CS-3e's seem to handle it ''better '' than others.
Mine comes back to normal behaviour after 24 hours or so in a normal
temp room and away from the rain or very high humdity .
Regards. |
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| Posted: Mon May 05, 2008 4:41 pm |
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On May 5, 8:08 pm, Boomboom <compre55... at (no spam) hotmail.com> wrote:
Quote: Maybe a little off topic but I wonder how this Rainman Mic Cover would
do in rain ? It's a newcomer; anyone had time to test it?
link:http://www.trewaudio.ca/products/rainman.htm
It works.
We took advantage of a sudden storm and shot a rain scene. I had a
Senn. MKH 50 in a Rycote Zepplin (sized for a 416) and it worked as
advertised. It minimized the sound of the rain hitting the zep and
kept the microphone dry. It was only in the downpour for 10 minutes
or so. I can't say for sure how long it would keep a mic dry, but I
was very happy with my one experience with it.
Steve Grider
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| Douglas Tourtelot... |
| Posted: Tue May 06, 2008 9:07 am |
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To the tropics with two 416s. You'll want a spare even though they rarely
break down.
D.
On 5/6/08 2:00 AM, in article
2bb5be9d-c503-4321-8e27-4d61bb0fae17 at (no spam) f63g2000hsf.googlegroups.com, "Noah
Timan" <dontwritemehereok at (no spam) yahoo.com> wrote:
Quote: On May 5, 4:04 pm, Ty Ford <tyreef... at (no spam) comcast.net> wrote:
Anyone have any anecdotal info on how well the CS-3e does outside in tropical
climates?
I've found the CS-3e to be a pretty fragile mic...it doesn't seem to
do too well in very hot, very cold, or very wet. It's also as
susceptible to RF interference as anything else. If you're going to
the tropics, I'd highly recommend taking a Sennheiser mic with you. I
haven't tried the new small ones, but the MKH- series seems to be
almost as venerable as a Nagra in adverse conditions. The comparison
between the Sennheisers' durability and immunity to RF problems and
humidity problems and the general competiton's (Schoeps, Sanken,
Neumann etc) isn't even close, in my experience (and I've got some of
them all).
nvt |
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| PT... |
| Posted: Tue May 06, 2008 10:18 am |
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On 6 May, 15:07, Douglas Tourtelot <dtourte... at (no spam) comcast.net> wrote:
Quote: To the tropics with two 416s. You'll want a spare even though they rarely
break down.
D.
On 5/6/08 2:00 AM, in article
2bb5be9d-c503-4321-8e27-4d61bb0fa... at (no spam) f63g2000hsf.googlegroups.com, "Noah
Timan" <dontwritemeher... at (no spam) yahoo.com> wrote:
On May 5, 4:04 pm, Ty Ford <tyreef... at (no spam) comcast.net> wrote:
Anyone have any anecdotal info on how well the CS-3e does outside in tropical
climates?
I've found the CS-3e to be a pretty fragile mic...it doesn't seem to
do too well in very hot, very cold, or very wet. It's also as
susceptible to RF interference as anything else. If you're going to
the tropics, I'd highly recommend taking a Sennheiser mic with you. I
haven't tried the new small ones, but the MKH- series seems to be
almost as venerable as a Nagra in adverse conditions. The comparison
between the Sennheisers' durability and immunity to RF problems and
humidity problems and the general competiton's (Schoeps, Sanken,
Neumann etc) isn't even close, in my experience (and I've got some of
them all).
nvt
I did a ten day trek across the Gran Sabana in Venezuela during the
rainy season last year. I took a CS-3e and a 416. Surprisingly the 416
died about an hour into the shoot, during the first of many heavy
storms, at which point I changed over to the CS-3e which I used for
the remainder of the trip with no problem. The 416 came back to life
after it had dried out but I stuck with the CS-3e and it served me
well for the remainder of the trip. On the last day of shooting we
were drenched by a proper tropical rainstorm for four or five hours
and the Sanken survived. I had the 416 checked out when I got home and
the engineer couldn't find anything wrong with it, needless to say
it's been fine ever since, although it hasn't been as wet.
I agree that the Sanken suffers terribly from RFI though, specifically
mobile phone interference. Mine seems to have got worse over the last
couple of years, to the point where I can't really risk using it
anymore, unless I'm in the middle of nowhere.
Paul |
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| Fernando |
| Posted: Fri May 09, 2008 2:26 pm |
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Quote: Alright I would say but not great...It does exhibit some strange
artifacts in the sound.....very faint fuzz crackling noise.
I used it till begins to act up and then switch to my Mkh 60 which I
never had problems with
same for me |
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| Fernando |
| Posted: Fri May 09, 2008 2:28 pm |
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(...) I had the 416 checked out when I got home and
Quote: the engineer couldn't find anything wrong with it,
maybe just jealous |
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| jeff c... |
| Posted: Sat May 10, 2008 11:53 am |
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On May 8, 1:06 pm, Lupus.Domesti... at (no spam) gmail.com wrote:
Quote: How much would one layer of plastic wrap around the zeppelin basket
under the windjammer affect the sound?
I use a layer of Laundry plastic from the dry cleaners under the
jammer and over the zepp all the time in rain or drizzle, on boats
etc... does not effect anything unless they see it... ;)
If anyone saw the "This old House" series from New Orleans this last
couple months... I got stuck with a dead 442 in a downpour (came back
to life after drying out)... had to use a cs3-e direct to camera for a
walk and talk with branford marsailis... they were under an umbrella.
Me, My Windjammer, and mixer were soaked... the sound was fine. the
ass. producer was a "Richard" and I will never work for those fulks
again... they usually don't use sound, something about being the most
succesfull series on PBS and trying to squeeze every dime out of
it.... to hell with me or my gear, Screw Em... |
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