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gasolinegus
Posted: Sat Apr 26, 2008 1:52 pm
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It's unbelievable to me that nearly everytime I mention Fatty Arbuckle
in mixed company people always react the same way... with disdain.
I'm taking into consideration of course that most of these people
aren't silent film fans nor are they scholars in film history but I'm
just surprised that everyone knows about the case but no one seems to
know about the outcome. Sad to me. Thoughts?
Bob Lipton
Posted: Sat Apr 26, 2008 8:09 pm
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gasolinegus wrote:
Quote:
It's unbelievable to me that nearly everytime I mention Fatty Arbuckle
in mixed company people always react the same way... with disdain.
I'm taking into consideration of course that most of these people
aren't silent film fans nor are they scholars in film history but I'm
just surprised that everyone knows about the case but no one seems to
know about the outcome. Sad to me. Thoughts?


Yesterday was Ella Fitzgerald's birthday and there were no fireworks.
PDQ Bach is a much funnier composer than Peter Schickele. The grenade
clips of the Burberry trench coat can be used to carry a lot of modern
stuff.

Other thoughts available on request.

Bob
rodney@mont-alto.com
Posted: Sun Apr 27, 2008 8:35 am
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On Apr 26, 5:52 pm, gasolinegus <dondelafie...@yahoo.com> wrote:
Quote:
It's unbelievable to me that nearly everytime I mention Fatty Arbuckle
in mixed company people always react the same way... with disdain.
I'm taking into consideration of course that most of these people
aren't silent film fans nor are they scholars in film history but I'm
just surprised that everyone knows about the case but no one seems to
know about the outcome.  Sad to me.  Thoughts?

I find that most people nowadays don't know about Roscoe, and
therefore don't remember that there WAS a scandal. If they watch his
movies without me giving a detailed introduction, they laugh just as
they do for Charley Chase, of whom they also have never heard.

It does simplify everything to show these films without going into too
much detail about the later lives of the actors. It can be easier to
enjoy a film as it was intended to be enjoyed in 1918 if the person
introducing the film doesn't dwell on Roscoe Arbuckle's still-to-come
legal troubles, or the disturbing deaths of a Martha Mansfield or a
Marie Prevost.

My two cents.

Rodney Sauer
Mont Alto Motion Picture Orchestra
www.mont-alto.com
Matt Barry
Posted: Sun Apr 27, 2008 2:11 pm
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<rodney@mont-alto.com> wrote in message
news:76b08457-537f-464a-99a5-5382e28a7975@56g2000hsm.googlegroups.com...
Quote:
On Apr 26, 5:52 pm, gasolinegus <dondelafie...@yahoo.com> wrote:
It's unbelievable to me that nearly everytime I mention Fatty Arbuckle
in mixed company people always react the same way... with disdain.
I'm taking into consideration of course that most of these people
aren't silent film fans nor are they scholars in film history but I'm
just surprised that everyone knows about the case but no one seems to
know about the outcome. Sad to me. Thoughts?

I find that most people nowadays don't know about Roscoe, and
therefore don't remember that there WAS a scandal. If they watch his
movies without me giving a detailed introduction, they laugh just as
they do for Charley Chase, of whom they also have never heard.

It does simplify everything to show these films without going into too
much detail about the later lives of the actors. It can be easier to
enjoy a film as it was intended to be enjoyed in 1918 if the person
introducing the film doesn't dwell on Roscoe Arbuckle's still-to-come
legal troubles, or the disturbing deaths of a Martha Mansfield or a
Marie Prevost.

My two cents.

Rodney Sauer
Mont Alto Motion Picture Orchestra
www.mont-alto.com


I don't know...Arbuckle's scandal is alive and well on all those trashy
"Access Hollywood" style shows, where they tease audiences with the
"scandalous details" to get them to keep watching until the end, and of
course at the end they finally explain that he was acquitted and so on. But
by then, people have already associated his name with the scandal. As long
as the talentless hangers-on who produce these shows continue to try making
a living off the lives of others, Arbuckle's name will probably continue to
be associated with the scandal.

--
Matt Barry
View my films at: www.youtube.com/comedyfilm
Read my blog at: http://filmreel.blogspot.com
gasolinegus
Posted: Sun Apr 27, 2008 4:11 pm
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On Apr 27, 5:48 pm, spiritus <NoS...@mindspring.com> wrote:
Quote:
A friend and I were at an exhibit of police memorabilia and were looking
through the sign in books for people charged with crimes. Quite by
chance (since the police seemed unaware of the significance of it) we
came across the signature of Rosco Arbuckle, which must have been signed
the night/morning he was taken in....My friend and I were quite blown
away at the poignant meaning of this signature. We tried to point it out
to the police, but they seemed entirely uninterested, perhaps they did
not know what it meant.

spiritus

Very interesting. Was this in San Francisco or was he arrested in Los
Angeles?
spiritus
Posted: Sun Apr 27, 2008 7:48 pm
Guest
A friend and I were at an exhibit of police memorabilia and were looking
through the sign in books for people charged with crimes. Quite by
chance (since the police seemed unaware of the significance of it) we
came across the signature of Rosco Arbuckle, which must have been signed
the night/morning he was taken in....My friend and I were quite blown
away at the poignant meaning of this signature. We tried to point it out
to the police, but they seemed entirely uninterested, perhaps they did
not know what it meant.

spiritus

Matt Barry wrote:
Quote:


rodney@mont-alto.com> wrote in message
news:76b08457-537f-464a-99a5-5382e28a7975@56g2000hsm.googlegroups.com...
On Apr 26, 5:52 pm, gasolinegus <dondelafie...@yahoo.com> wrote:
It's unbelievable to me that nearly everytime I mention Fatty Arbuckle
in mixed company people always react the same way... with disdain.
I'm taking into consideration of course that most of these people
aren't silent film fans nor are they scholars in film history but I'm
just surprised that everyone knows about the case but no one seems to
know about the outcome. Sad to me. Thoughts?

I find that most people nowadays don't know about Roscoe, and
therefore don't remember that there WAS a scandal. If they watch his
movies without me giving a detailed introduction, they laugh just as
they do for Charley Chase, of whom they also have never heard.

It does simplify everything to show these films without going into too
much detail about the later lives of the actors. It can be easier to
enjoy a film as it was intended to be enjoyed in 1918 if the person
introducing the film doesn't dwell on Roscoe Arbuckle's still-to-come
legal troubles, or the disturbing deaths of a Martha Mansfield or a
Marie Prevost.

My two cents.

Rodney Sauer
Mont Alto Motion Picture Orchestra
www.mont-alto.com


I don't know...Arbuckle's scandal is alive and well on all those trashy
"Access Hollywood" style shows, where they tease audiences with the
"scandalous details" to get them to keep watching until the end, and of
course at the end they finally explain that he was acquitted and so on.
But by then, people have already associated his name with the scandal.
As long as the talentless hangers-on who produce these shows continue to
try making a living off the lives of others, Arbuckle's name will
probably continue to be associated with the scandal.
spiritus
Posted: Sun Apr 27, 2008 9:59 pm
Guest
This was in san francisco.
spiritus

gasolinegus wrote:
Quote:
On Apr 27, 5:48 pm, spiritus <NoS...@mindspring.com> wrote:
A friend and I were at an exhibit of police memorabilia and were looking
through the sign in books for people charged with crimes. Quite by
chance (since the police seemed unaware of the significance of it) we
came across the signature of Rosco Arbuckle, which must have been signed
the night/morning he was taken in....My friend and I were quite blown
away at the poignant meaning of this signature. We tried to point it out
to the police, but they seemed entirely uninterested, perhaps they did
not know what it meant.

spiritus

Very interesting. Was this in San Francisco or was he arrested in Los
Angeles?
Opry phantom
Posted: Tue Apr 29, 2008 7:58 am
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On Apr 27, 7:59 pm, spiritus <NoS...@mindspring.com> wrote:
Quote:
This was in san francisco.
spiritus


D.A. Brady was an unscrupled creep. There's a chapter in the
Maltese Falcon, where Sam Spade tells him off. I wonder if that scene
was in the Black Mask original? Hammett worked on the trial
investigation.
Quote:


gasolinegus wrote:
On Apr 27, 5:48 pm, spiritus <NoS...@mindspring.com> wrote:
A friend and I were at an exhibit of police memorabilia and were looking
through the sign in books for people charged with crimes. Quite by
chance (since the police seemed unaware of the significance of it) we
came across the signature of Rosco Arbuckle, which must have been signed
the night/morning he was taken in....My friend and I were quite blown
away at the poignant meaning of this signature. We tried to point it out
to the police, but they seemed entirely uninterested, perhaps they did
not know what it meant.

spiritus

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Angeles?- Hide quoted text -

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