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| Charles Tomaras |
 Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2008 9:35 pm |
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Just a note to let you all know how my experience with Andre Boisvert's
single system slate for video has been going. You can see his slate at:
http://singlesystemslate.com/
I've been using it on appropriate shoots for about a month now and have had
positive responses from the producers and camera people I've used it with.
I've yet to hear anything back from a post person but I do feel good about
having the appropriate information indelibly recorded at the head of
interviews or other changes of audio. I've also had the feeling that the
people I work with were appreciative of the extra effort and I feel that it
has given me more of a professional appearance....almost as thought I
actually give a shit! :)
Thanks Andre!
Please let us know how you are coming with this project since last we spoke.
Charles Tomaras
Seattle, WA |
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| André Boisvert |
| Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2008 9:35 pm |
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On Mar 13, 10:35 pm, "Charles Tomaras" <toma...@tomaras.com> wrote:
Quote: Just a note to let you all know how my experience with Andre Boisvert's
single system slate for video has been going. You can see his slate at:http://singlesystemslate.com/
I've been using it on appropriate shoots for about a month now and have had
positive responses from the producers and camera people I've used it with.
I've yet to hear anything back from a post person but I do feel good about
having the appropriate information indelibly recorded at the head of
interviews or other changes of audio. I've also had the feeling that the
people I work with were appreciative of the extra effort and I feel that it
has given me more of a professional appearance....almost as thought I
actually give a shit! :)
Thanks Andre!
Please let us know how you are coming with this project since last we spoke.
Charles Tomaras
Seattle, WA
Geez, Charlie! I was hoping to make the announcement myself!
I'm inching along. The shopping cart is killing me. I had no idea
what I was getting into!
I'll let RAMPS know when I'm up.
Cheers,
André Boisvert
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| cmassey |
| Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2008 9:35 pm |
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I MUST have one of these....
Then I too can appear to give a shit :)
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| Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2008 9:35 pm |
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| Jason Porter |
| Posted: Thu Mar 13, 2008 9:35 pm |
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Put me on the list Andre. I'll take one ASAP.
-Jason
On Mar 13, 10:44 pm, André Boisvert <aboisvert...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
Quote: On Mar 13, 10:35 pm, "Charles Tomaras" <toma...@tomaras.com> wrote:
Just a note to let you all know how my experience with Andre Boisvert's
single system slate for video has been going. You can see his slate at:http://singlesystemslate.com/
I've been using it on appropriate shoots for about a month now and have had
positive responses from the producers and camera people I've used it with.
I've yet to hear anything back from a post person but I do feel good about
having the appropriate information indelibly recorded at the head of
interviews or other changes of audio. I've also had the feeling that the
people I work with were appreciative of the extra effort and I feel that it
has given me more of a professional appearance....almost as thought I
actually give a shit! :)
Thanks Andre!
Please let us know how you are coming with this project since last we spoke.
Charles Tomaras
Seattle, WA
Geez, Charlie! I was hoping to make the announcement myself!
I'm inching along. The shopping cart is killing me. I had no idea
what I was getting into!
I'll let RAMPS know when I'm up.
Cheers,
André Boisvert
Montréal |
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| rich |
| Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2008 12:09 am |
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good idea. at least post have a chance of seeing it rather than
saying, oh i didnt hear the note you left on the audio track as no one
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| André Boisvert |
| Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2008 5:03 am |
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On Mar 14, 9:48 am, Jay Rose <see_sigf...@nowhere.com> wrote:
Quote: A problem with a lot of mid-level digital cameras is picture latency.
Depending on the mode, it can take as much as three fields for pix to
get scanned off the CCD, DSP'd as desired, and printed to tape. And
there's often no corresponding audio delay.
So a -slapped- slate is a useful calibration step for single system
with these puppies. Does this slate have something to slap?
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As far as audio post goes - and there are plenty of single system
projects that go to audio post - please still keep a sound log. A
visual slate would be cut off long before it ever gets here.
But I agree it would be nice to have on-screen info for the pix editors.
--
Jay Rose CAS
tutorials and other sound goodies at dplay.com
email is "jay@" plus the dot-com in the previous line.
Hi Jay,
I don't use it like a traditional slate. Usually, I'll record a few
seconds of it during set-up, way before we actually roll on a scene/
interview/whatever. So, no clapper.
André |
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| Guest |
| Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2008 6:26 am |
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On Mar 14, 11:03 am, André Boisvert <aboisvert...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
Quote: On Mar 14, 9:48 am, Jay Rose <see_sigf...@nowhere.com> wrote:
A problem with a lot of mid-level digital cameras is picture latency.
Depending on the mode, it can take as much as three fields for pix to
get scanned off the CCD, DSP'd as desired, and printed to tape. And
there's often no corresponding audio delay.
So a -slapped- slate is a useful calibration step for single system
with these puppies. Does this slate have something to slap?
...
As far as audio post goes - and there are plenty of single system
projects that go to audio post - please still keep a sound log. A
visual slate would be cut off long before it ever gets here.
But I agree it would be nice to have on-screen info for the pix editors.
--
Jay Rose CAS
tutorials and other sound goodies at dplay.com
email is "jay@" plus the dot-com in the previous line.
Hi Jay,
I don't use it like a traditional slate. Usually, I'll record a few
seconds of it during set-up, way before we actually roll on a scene/
interview/whatever. So, no clapper.
André- Hide quoted text -
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Seems like you'd need a lot of stick on things to cover all of the
variables. A nice idea would be to have windows that you could type
the display info into.
Eric |
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| André Boisvert |
| Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2008 6:56 am |
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Quote:
Seems like you'd need a lot of stick on things to cover all of the
variables. A nice idea would be to have windows that you could type
the display info into.
Eric- Hide quoted text -
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I'll offer a no-frills basic slate that'll work for everybody. Then,
if you want, you'll be able to customize your slate by adding ID tags
to match your kit.
André |
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| johngooch |
| Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2008 7:14 am |
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Andre,
One comment to add regarding a "clapper" As jay points out, it would
be useful for determining offset of audio to video because of all the
visual signal processing. To clap the slate ONCE before shooting is
all that would be needed to determine that offset. It would not be
needed before every take. Any HD shoot, i always have at least one
take "clapped". Downconvert offsets vary widely in post production.
john gooch
On Mar 14, 11:03 am, André Boisvert <aboisvert...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
Quote: On Mar 14, 9:48 am, Jay Rose <see_sigf...@nowhere.com> wrote:
A problem with a lot of mid-level digital cameras is picture latency.
Depending on the mode, it can take as much as three fields for pix to
get scanned off the CCD, DSP'd as desired, and printed to tape. And
there's often no corresponding audio delay.
So a -slapped- slate is a useful calibration step for single system
with these puppies. Does this slate have something to slap?
...
As far as audio post goes - and there are plenty of single system
projects that go to audio post - please still keep a sound log. A
visual slate would be cut off long before it ever gets here.
But I agree it would be nice to have on-screen info for the pix editors.
--
Jay Rose CAS
tutorials and other sound goodies at dplay.com
email is "jay@" plus the dot-com in the previous line.
Hi Jay,
I don't use it like a traditional slate. Usually, I'll record a few
seconds of it during set-up, way before we actually roll on a scene/
interview/whatever. So, no clapper.
André
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| Jay Rose |
| Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2008 8:48 am |
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A problem with a lot of mid-level digital cameras is picture latency.
Depending on the mode, it can take as much as three fields for pix to
get scanned off the CCD, DSP'd as desired, and printed to tape. And
there's often no corresponding audio delay.
So a -slapped- slate is a useful calibration step for single system
with these puppies. Does this slate have something to slap?
....
As far as audio post goes - and there are plenty of single system
projects that go to audio post - please still keep a sound log. A
visual slate would be cut off long before it ever gets here.
But I agree it would be nice to have on-screen info for the pix editors.
--
Jay Rose CAS
tutorials and other sound goodies at dplay.com
email is "jay@" plus the dot-com in the previous line. |
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| johnpaul215 |
| Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2008 12:52 pm |
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I like the idea of this. I often keep an analog slate with me "just in
case". This would be nice to stick on the back. If you are that
worried about portable clap, some of those mini clap boards are
usable, and should fit in most bags. |
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| Charles Tomaras |
| Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2008 1:54 pm |
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Quote: "johngooch" <jgoochmixer@mac.com> wrote in message
news:b6b7c606-0b26-4b5b-96d5-5c8f275bd9c7@u72g2000hsf.googlegroups.com...
Andre,
One comment to add regarding a "clapper" As jay points out, it would
be useful for determining offset of audio to video because of all the
visual signal processing.
This slate is a small lightweight velcro affair that is meant to live in
your bag and identify what's on what track. It's not a clapper and honestly
I believe that on most small video shoots you would encounter resistance to
clapping a slate and changing the established work flow. As it is, it's
small, efficient, and effectively documents the key elements an editor would
need to identify what is where and what was used. Andre made me custom stick
ons for my primary mics and rf systems. It works well for what it is....if
it were bigger, heavier and had a clapper it would never live in my bag on a
permanant basis.
On Mar 14, 11:03 am, André Boisvert <aboisvert...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
Quote: On Mar 14, 9:48 am, Jay Rose <see_sigf...@nowhere.com> wrote:
A problem with a lot of mid-level digital cameras is picture latency.
Depending on the mode, it can take as much as three fields for pix to
get scanned off the CCD, DSP'd as desired, and printed to tape. And
there's often no corresponding audio delay.
So a -slapped- slate is a useful calibration step for single system
with these puppies. Does this slate have something to slap?
...
As far as audio post goes - and there are plenty of single system
projects that go to audio post - please still keep a sound log. A
visual slate would be cut off long before it ever gets here.
But I agree it would be nice to have on-screen info for the pix editors.
--
Jay Rose CAS
tutorials and other sound goodies at dplay.com
email is "jay@" plus the dot-com in the previous line.
Hi Jay,
I don't use it like a traditional slate. Usually, I'll record a few
seconds of it during set-up, way before we actually roll on a scene/
interview/whatever. So, no clapper.
André
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