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Gunther Schadow
Posted: Tue Dec 30, 2003 1:18 am
Guest
Hi, [sorry if this comes twice, I haven't seen it show up in
24 hours.]

I just watched the Iranian movie "Children of Heaven" and I
was very moved and inspired. I want to use this and other movies
like it to show and discuss with young folks in our church. The
general theme I'm looking for is something like "children around
the world" where in each film children should be key characters,
the background should be authentic to the culture of different
countries around the world. It should demonstrate the deep inner
values of each culture even in adversity or conflict.
What I really liked about "Children of Heaven" is that the entire
plot lives from people who are humans in the best but realistic
sense. There is no villain in this movie and no unrealistic heroe.
It teaches a respect of the culture, moves to compassion and it
widens the horizon and teaches respect for cultures beyond the
white middle-class American.

I was thinking of Salaam Bombay as a candidate under this theme,
but am not sure. Are there movies about:

- hate and reconciliation in Northern Ireland (e.g., two children
who become friends accross the confessional border in Northern
Ireland)

- Something from africa, perhaps southern africa, ...

- Children of the streets in Brazil?

- India, Thailand, China, Japan, Russia ...

- peace, reconciliation, compassion,

- I would also like to include the USA but from the other side
of Hollywood, something really honest about life condition of
the disadvantaged (say children in the Bronx)

Any ideas are welcome. I was trying to skim through the Oscar
*nominations* for best international film but can't find any
record of those anywhere. So I appreciate any suggestion.

regards,
-Gunther
John Harkness
Posted: Tue Dec 30, 2003 2:12 am
Guest
On Tue, 30 Dec 2003 03:18:05 GMT, Gunther Schadow
<gunther@aurora.regenstrief.org> wrote:

Quote:
Hi, [sorry if this comes twice, I haven't seen it show up in
24 hours.]

I just watched the Iranian movie "Children of Heaven" and I
was very moved and inspired. I want to use this and other movies
like it to show and discuss with young folks in our church. The
general theme I'm looking for is something like "children around
the world" where in each film children should be key characters,
the background should be authentic to the culture of different
countries around the world. It should demonstrate the deep inner
values of each culture even in adversity or conflict.
What I really liked about "Children of Heaven" is that the entire
plot lives from people who are humans in the best but realistic
sense. There is no villain in this movie and no unrealistic heroe.
It teaches a respect of the culture, moves to compassion and it
widens the horizon and teaches respect for cultures beyond the
white middle-class American.

I was thinking of Salaam Bombay as a candidate under this theme,
but am not sure. Are there movies about:

- hate and reconciliation in Northern Ireland (e.g., two children
who become friends accross the confessional border in Northern
Ireland)

- Something from africa, perhaps southern africa, ...

- Children of the streets in Brazil?


Pixote

Quote:
- India, Thailand, China, Japan, Russia ...

Klimov's Come and See for Russia, one of the great kids in war movies
ever made, though kind of intense.

John Harkness
>
Stephen Cooke
Posted: Tue Dec 30, 2003 2:37 am
Guest
On Mon, 29 Dec 2003, John Harkness wrote:

Quote:
On Tue, 30 Dec 2003 03:18:05 GMT, Gunther Schadow
gunther@aurora.regenstrief.org> wrote:

Hi, [sorry if this comes twice, I haven't seen it show up in
24 hours.]

I just watched the Iranian movie "Children of Heaven" and I
was very moved and inspired. I want to use this and other movies
like it to show and discuss with young folks in our church. The
general theme I'm looking for is something like "children around
the world" where in each film children should be key characters,
the background should be authentic to the culture of different
countries around the world. It should demonstrate the deep inner
values of each culture even in adversity or conflict.
What I really liked about "Children of Heaven" is that the entire
plot lives from people who are humans in the best but realistic
sense. There is no villain in this movie and no unrealistic heroe.
It teaches a respect of the culture, moves to compassion and it
widens the horizon and teaches respect for cultures beyond the
white middle-class American.

I was thinking of Salaam Bombay as a candidate under this theme,
but am not sure. Are there movies about:

- hate and reconciliation in Northern Ireland (e.g., two children
who become friends accross the confessional border in Northern
Ireland)

- Something from africa, perhaps southern africa, ...

- Children of the streets in Brazil?


Pixote

- India, Thailand, China, Japan, Russia ...

Klimov's Come and See for Russia, one of the great kids in war movies
ever made, though kind of intense.

There's also the French classic Forbidden Games, and the more recent
Italian thriller Flight of the Innocent, about a young boy who sees his
family get wiped out by mobsters, and spends the rest of the film using
his wits to stay out of the clutches of his family's killers.

The Chinese drama about the opera schools, Painted Faces (with Samo Hung
as the tough-but-fair teacher) might also be suitable.

swac
David Matthews
Posted: Tue Dec 30, 2003 6:42 am
Guest
Some British movies.

Hue and Cry (1947) - some London street kids foil a gang of criminals.

Hope and Glory (1987) - London during the blitz. Mostly seen through
the eyes of children.

The Happiest Days of Your Lives (1950) - In wartime England due to a
Government snafu an all girls school is combined with an old
established all boys school .

The 1950's "St Trinian" movies.

Dave in Toronto
Tom Hester
Posted: Tue Dec 30, 2003 1:14 pm
Guest
Francois Truffaut's 'Small Change (L'Argent de poche)', his story of
latch-key kids, and 'The Four Hundred Blows(Les Quatre cents coups)', his
autobiographical study of an abusive home life and in an orphanage.
"Gunther Schadow" <gunther@aurora.regenstrief.org> wrote in message
news:N76Ib.19567$P%1.18188959@newssvr28.news.prodigy.com...
Quote:
Hi, [sorry if this comes twice, I haven't seen it show up in
24 hours.]

I just watched the Iranian movie "Children of Heaven" and I
was very moved and inspired. I want to use this and other movies
like it to show and discuss with young folks in our church. The
general theme I'm looking for is something like "children around
the world" where in each film children should be key characters,
the background should be authentic to the culture of different
countries around the world. It should demonstrate the deep inner
values of each culture even in adversity or conflict.
What I really liked about "Children of Heaven" is that the entire
plot lives from people who are humans in the best but realistic
sense. There is no villain in this movie and no unrealistic heroe.
It teaches a respect of the culture, moves to compassion and it
widens the horizon and teaches respect for cultures beyond the
white middle-class American.

I was thinking of Salaam Bombay as a candidate under this theme,
but am not sure. Are there movies about:

- hate and reconciliation in Northern Ireland (e.g., two children
who become friends accross the confessional border in Northern
Ireland)

- Something from africa, perhaps southern africa, ...

- Children of the streets in Brazil?

- India, Thailand, China, Japan, Russia ...

- peace, reconciliation, compassion,

- I would also like to include the USA but from the other side
of Hollywood, something really honest about life condition of
the disadvantaged (say children in the Bronx)

Any ideas are welcome. I was trying to skim through the Oscar
*nominations* for best international film but can't find any
record of those anywhere. So I appreciate any suggestion.

regards,
-Gunther
unglued
Posted: Tue Dec 30, 2003 4:54 pm
Guest
Gunther Schadow <gunther@aurora.regenstrief.org> wrote in message news:<N76Ib.19567$P%1.18188959@newssvr28.news.prodigy.com>...
Quote:
Hi, [sorry if this comes twice, I haven't seen it show up in
24 hours.]

I just watched the Iranian movie "Children of Heaven" and I
was very moved and inspired. I want to use this and other movies
like it to show and discuss with young folks in our church. The
general theme I'm looking for is something like "children around
the world" where in each film children should be key characters,
the background should be authentic to the culture of different
countries around the world. It should demonstrate the deep inner
values of each culture even in adversity or conflict.
What I really liked about "Children of Heaven" is that the entire
plot lives from people who are humans in the best but realistic
sense. There is no villain in this movie and no unrealistic heroe.
It teaches a respect of the culture, moves to compassion and it
widens the horizon and teaches respect for cultures beyond the
white middle-class American.

I was thinking of Salaam Bombay as a candidate under this theme,
but am not sure. Are there movies about:

- hate and reconciliation in Northern Ireland (e.g., two children
who become friends accross the confessional border in Northern
Ireland)

- Something from africa, perhaps southern africa, ...

- Children of the streets in Brazil?

- India, Thailand, China, Japan, Russia ...

- peace, reconciliation, compassion,

- I would also like to include the USA but from the other side
of Hollywood, something really honest about life condition of
the disadvantaged (say children in the Bronx)

Any ideas are welcome. I was trying to skim through the Oscar
*nominations* for best international film but can't find any
record of those anywhere. So I appreciate any suggestion.

The French/Tunisian film Halfaouine

Quote:

regards,
-Gunther
cuauhtemoc
Posted: Tue Dec 30, 2003 4:56 pm
Guest
Gunther Schadow <gunther@aurora.regenstrief.org> wrote in message news:<N76Ib.19567$P%1.18188959@newssvr28.news.prodigy.com>...

Quote:
- Children of the streets in Brazil?

The recent classic "Central Station" plays like Brazilian Spielberg -
full of wonderful emotive schmaltz that will leave you sobbing.
Fernanda Montenegro's gritty reluctant heroine got an Oscar nom, the
misty-eyed child star Vinícius de Oliveira is irresistable, and the
battered Brazilian landscapes are heartbreaking.

Quote:
- India, Thailand, China, Japan, Russia ...

"Not One Less" (China) is an odd little film about a young girl hired
to teach in a desolate rural schoolhouse. A tiny boy runs away and
she embarks on a doggedly persistent trek to hunt him down. Small,
simple plot with realisticly flawed characters and motives (greed,
stubbornness, the heroine is no angel) - It slowly blossoms into a
complex study of various cultural issues for China.

Quote:
- I would also like to include the USA but from the other side
of Hollywood, something really honest about life condition of
the disadvantaged (say children in the Bronx)

"Raising Victor Vargas" is the obvious recent favorite - tho it might
be a little more upbeat/spunky/sexual than what you're looking for.
Also, "George Washington" (same brilliant cinematographer) is haunting
and unique, but appears to be about nothing unless you pay close
attention. Enjoy!
unglued
Posted: Tue Dec 30, 2003 5:17 pm
Guest
Gunther Schadow <gunther@aurora.regenstrief.org> wrote in message news:<N76Ib.19567$P%1.18188959@newssvr28.news.prodigy.com>...
Quote:
Hi, [sorry if this comes twice, I haven't seen it show up in
24 hours.]

I just watched the Iranian movie "Children of Heaven" and I
was very moved and inspired. I want to use this and other movies
like it to show and discuss with young folks in our church. The
general theme I'm looking for is something like "children around
the world" where in each film children should be key characters,
the background should be authentic to the culture of different
countries around the world. It should demonstrate the deep inner
values of each culture even in adversity or conflict.
What I really liked about "Children of Heaven" is that the entire
plot lives from people who are humans in the best but realistic
sense. There is no villain in this movie and no unrealistic heroe.
It teaches a respect of the culture, moves to compassion and it
widens the horizon and teaches respect for cultures beyond the
white middle-class American.

I was thinking of Salaam Bombay as a candidate under this theme,
but am not sure. Are there movies about:

- hate and reconciliation in Northern Ireland (e.g., two children
who become friends accross the confessional border in Northern
Ireland)

- Something from africa, perhaps southern africa, ...

- Children of the streets in Brazil?

City of God a.k.a. Cidade de Deus

Quote:

- India, Thailand, China, Japan, Russia ...

- peace, reconciliation, compassion,

- I would also like to include the USA but from the other side
of Hollywood, something really honest about life condition of
the disadvantaged (say children in the Bronx)

Any ideas are welcome. I was trying to skim through the Oscar
*nominations* for best international film but can't find any
record of those anywhere. So I appreciate any suggestion.

regards,
-Gunther
Ernest P. Duckweather
Posted: Tue Dec 30, 2003 6:17 pm
Guest
"Gunther Schadow" <gunther@aurora.regenstrief.org> wrote in message
news:N76Ib.19567$P%1.18188959@newssvr28.news.prodigy.com...

Quote:
I just watched the Iranian movie "Children of Heaven" and I
was very moved and inspired. I want to use this and other movies
like it to show and discuss with young folks in our church. The
general theme I'm looking for is something like "children around
the world" where in each film children should be key characters,
the background should be authentic to the culture of different
countries around the world. It should demonstrate the deep inner
values of each culture even in adversity or conflict.

The Swedish film "Sunday's Children," written by Ingmar Bergman and directed
by his son may be a little slow for children or young people to watch, but
it is a deeply moving story of a boy grappling with his relationship with
his father; beautifully acted and photographed.
frank habets
Posted: Tue Dec 30, 2003 9:23 pm
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Gunther Schadow <gunther@aurora.regenstrief.org> wrote in
news:N76Ib.19567$P%1.18188959@newssvr28.news.prodigy.com:

Quote:
Hi, [sorry if this comes twice, I haven't seen it show up in
24 hours.]

I just watched the Iranian movie "Children of Heaven" and I
was very moved and inspired. I want to use this and other movies
like it to show and discuss with young folks in our church. The
general theme I'm looking for is something like "children around
the world" where in each film children should be key characters,
the background should be authentic to the culture of different
countries around the world. It should demonstrate the deep inner
values of each culture even in adversity or conflict.

Two most excellent Canadian films:
Mon Oncle Antoine
Les Bons Debarass
Guest
Posted: Wed Dec 31, 2003 10:59 am
On 30-Dec-2003, cuauhtemoc202@hotmail.com (cuauhtemoc) wrote:

Quote:
- Children of the streets in Brazil?

The recent classic "Central Station" plays like Brazilian Spielberg -
full of wonderful emotive schmaltz that will leave you sobbing.
Fernanda Montenegro's gritty reluctant heroine got an Oscar nom, the
misty-eyed child star Vinícius de Oliveira is irresistible, and the
battered Brazilian landscapes are heartbreaking.

One of the two main characters is a child - but not children.

I find it interesting that the French seem to make good movies about
children.
Brent McKee
Posted: Wed Dec 31, 2003 3:49 pm
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"frank habets" <a@aggg.com> wrote in message
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Quote:
Gunther Schadow <gunther@aurora.regenstrief.org> wrote in
news:N76Ib.19567$P%1.18188959@newssvr28.news.prodigy.com:

Hi, [sorry if this comes twice, I haven't seen it show up in
24 hours.]

I just watched the Iranian movie "Children of Heaven" and I
was very moved and inspired. I want to use this and other movies
like it to show and discuss with young folks in our church. The
general theme I'm looking for is something like "children around
the world" where in each film children should be key characters,
the background should be authentic to the culture of different
countries around the world. It should demonstrate the deep inner
values of each culture even in adversity or conflict.

Two most excellent Canadian films:
Mon Oncle Antoine
Les Bons Debarass

The trouble -- at least with "Mon Oncle Antoine" -- is that it is
something of a period piece. If we are introducing period pieces,
then how about "Who Has Seen The Wind?" which is set in small town
Saskatchewan in the 1930s. It isn't a realistic interpretation of
today, but it is quite accurate about a small town in the 1930s.

--
Brent McKee

To reply by email, please remove the capital letters (S and N) from
the email address

"If we cease to judge this world, we may find ourselves, very quickly,
in one which is infinitely worse."
- Margaret Atwood

"Nothing is more dangerous than a dogmatic worldview - nothing more
constraining, more blinding to innovation, more destructive of
openness to novelty. "
- Stephen Jay Gould (1941-2002)
ikmccall
Posted: Wed Dec 31, 2003 11:04 pm
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Gunther Schadow <gunther@aurora.regenstrief.org> wrote in message news:<N76Ib.19567$P%1.18188959@newssvr28.news.prodigy.com>...
Quote:
Hi, [sorry if this comes twice, I haven't seen it show up in
24 hours.]

I just watched the Iranian movie "Children of Heaven" and I
was very moved and inspired. I want to use this and other movies
like it to show and discuss with young folks in our church. The
general theme I'm looking for is something like "children around
the world" where in each film children should be key characters,
the background should be authentic to the culture of different
countries around the world. It should demonstrate the deep inner
values of each culture even in adversity or conflict.
What I really liked about "Children of Heaven" is that the entire
plot lives from people who are humans in the best but realistic
sense. There is no villain in this movie and no unrealistic heroe.
It teaches a respect of the culture, moves to compassion and it
widens the horizon and teaches respect for cultures beyond the
white middle-class American.

I was thinking of Salaam Bombay as a candidate under this theme,
but am not sure. Are there movies about:

- hate and reconciliation in Northern Ireland (e.g., two children
who become friends accross the confessional border in Northern
Ireland)

- Something from africa, perhaps southern africa, ...

- Children of the streets in Brazil?

- India, Thailand, China, Japan, Russia ...

- peace, reconciliation, compassion,

- I would also like to include the USA but from the other side
of Hollywood, something really honest about life condition of
the disadvantaged (say children in the Bronx)

Any ideas are welcome. I was trying to skim through the Oscar
*nominations* for best international film but can't find any
record of those anywhere. So I appreciate any suggestion.

regards,
-Gunther

Ponette (France)
The War of the Buttons (Ireland)
Lord Jubjub
Posted: Thu Jan 01, 2004 2:00 am
Guest
In article <10973407.0312311704.e2b3044@posting.google.com>,
Ikmccall@aol.com (ikmccall) wrote:

Quote:
Gunther Schadow <gunther@aurora.regenstrief.org> wrote in message
news:<N76Ib.19567$P%1.18188959@newssvr28.news.prodigy.com>...
Hi, [sorry if this comes twice, I haven't seen it show up in
24 hours.]

I just watched the Iranian movie "Children of Heaven" and I
was very moved and inspired. I want to use this and other movies
like it to show and discuss with young folks in our church. The
general theme I'm looking for is something like "children around
the world" where in each film children should be key characters,
the background should be authentic to the culture of different
countries around the world. It should demonstrate the deep inner
values of each culture even in adversity or conflict.
What I really liked about "Children of Heaven" is that the entire
plot lives from people who are humans in the best but realistic
sense. There is no villain in this movie and no unrealistic heroe.
It teaches a respect of the culture, moves to compassion and it
widens the horizon and teaches respect for cultures beyond the
white middle-class American.

I was thinking of Salaam Bombay as a candidate under this theme,
but am not sure. Are there movies about:

- hate and reconciliation in Northern Ireland (e.g., two children
who become friends accross the confessional border in Northern
Ireland)

- Something from africa, perhaps southern africa, ...

- Children of the streets in Brazil?

Isn't "City of God" (Argentina) seriously considered for a Foriegn
Language Film Oscar? Doesn't that involve the street children? (Though
there is controversy about whether it is a bit over the top.)
--
Lord Jubjub, ruler of the slithy toves.
If you want to contact me, remember I am a LORD.
Mark Toomey
Posted: Thu Jan 01, 2004 5:14 am
Guest
Gunther Schadow wrote:
Quote:
Hi, [sorry if this comes twice, I haven't seen it show up in
24 hours.]

I just watched the Iranian movie "Children of Heaven" and I
was very moved and inspired. I want to use this and other movies
like it to show and discuss with young folks in our church. The general
theme I'm looking for is something like "children around
the world" where in each film children should be key characters,
the background should be authentic to the culture of different
countries around the world. It should demonstrate the deep inner
values of each culture even in adversity or conflict.
What I really liked about "Children of Heaven" is that the entire
plot lives from people who are humans in the best but realistic
sense. There is no villain in this movie and no unrealistic heroe.
It teaches a respect of the culture, moves to compassion and it
widens the horizon and teaches respect for cultures beyond the
white middle-class American.

I was thinking of Salaam Bombay as a candidate under this theme,
but am not sure. Are there movies about:

- hate and reconciliation in Northern Ireland (e.g., two children
who become friends accross the confessional border in Northern
Ireland)

- Something from africa, perhaps southern africa, ...

- Children of the streets in Brazil?

- India, Thailand, China, Japan, Russia ...

- peace, reconciliation, compassion,

- I would also like to include the USA but from the other side
of Hollywood, something really honest about life condition of
the disadvantaged (say children in the Bronx)

Any ideas are welcome. I was trying to skim through the Oscar
*nominations* for best international film but can't find any
record of those anywhere. So I appreciate any suggestion.

regards,
-Gunther


Empire of the Sun - 1987 - Director: Steven Spielberg (A young English
boy struggles to survive under Japanese occupation during World War II.)
 
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