Mel Gibson is Stanley Kubrick on steroids

In article <1188770695.200245.76520@o80g2000hse.googlegroups.com>,
gfhdtr6yd6ry@googlemail.com says...
Mel Gibson is Stanley Kubrick on steroids

Yes, steroids eventually destroy your brain and kill you. I'd say that
describes Gibson pretty well actually, except for the part where he
doesn't even vaguely resemble Kubrick even in his wildest dreams.
He probably hates Kubrick, who was--after all--Jewish.

"Forge" <forge@diespammers.youneedageek.com> wrote in message
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In article <1188770695.200245.76520@o80g2000hse.googlegroups.com>,
gfhdtr6yd6ry@googlemail.com says...
Mel Gibson is Stanley Kubrick on steroids

Yes, steroids eventually destroy your brain and kill you. I'd say that
describes Gibson pretty well actually, except for the part where he
doesn't even vaguely resemble Kubrick even in his wildest dreams.
He probably hates Kubrick, who was--after all--Jewish.

GIBSON'S MASTERPIECE AN ALLEGORICAL WARNING AGAINST UNRESTRAINED
TYRANNY OF GOVERNMENT, HUMAN SACRIFICE AND ENSLAVEMENT

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and is the reason why
indigenous populations in the region today are little over 5 foot tall
on average.

GIBSON'S MASTERPIECE AN ALLEGORICAL WARNING AGAINST UNRESTRAINED
TYRANNY OF GOVERNMENT, HUMAN SACRIFICE AND ENSLAVEMENT

Mel Gibson's Apocalypto is the most powerful film of all time, it is
packed with strong positive messages and it is the most polished,
iconic and awe-inspiring allegorical warning against the unrestrained
power and abuse of government that cinema has ever seen.

"Jim34" <gfhdtr6yd6ry@googlemail.com> wrote in message
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GIBSON'S MASTERPIECE AN ALLEGORICAL WARNING AGAINST UNRESTRAINED
TYRANNY OF GOVERNMENT, HUMAN SACRIFICE AND ENSLAVEMENT

Mel Gibson's Apocalypto is the most powerful film of all time, it is
packed with strong positive messages and it is the most polished,
iconic and awe-inspiring allegorical warning against the unrestrained
power and abuse of government that cinema has ever seen.

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C'mon, now....don't pussyfoot around. Tell us what you really think of
the picture.

Did you include this to check if anyone had read it?
Peoples of the world have differing heights for a number of
reasons. For example, some desert tribes of Africa are very
thin and tall while others who live in forested areas are shorter.

Some have speculated that these peoples have evolved a
beneficial characteristic. Those in desert areas have a smaller
profile to the sun, while people in forested areas would have no
advantage.

GIBSON'S MASTERPIECE AN ALLEGORICAL WARNING AGAINST UNRESTRAINED
TYRANNY OF GOVERNMENT, HUMAN SACRIFICE AND ENSLAVEMENT

Mel Gibson's Apocalypto is the most powerful film of all time, it is
packed with strong positive messages and it is the most polished,
iconic and awe-inspiring allegorical warning against the unrestrained
power and abuse of government that cinema has ever seen.

On Mon, 3 Sep 2007 05:34:51 +0100, "Stone me" <stranger@corrall.msx
wrote:

Did you include this to check if anyone had read it?
Peoples of the world have differing heights for a number of
reasons. For example, some desert tribes of Africa are very
thin and tall while others who live in forested areas are shorter.

Some have speculated that these peoples have evolved a
beneficial characteristic. Those in desert areas have a smaller
profile to the sun, while people in forested areas would have no
advantage.

Although there is increasing evidence that diet plays a bigger
difference than previously thought - with "races" thought to be short
in the past fitting into international standards with diet changes.

From: "Wull" <wmailey@sbcglobal.net
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Date: Mon, 03 Sep 2007 16:07:42 GMT
Subject: Re: Apocalypto: The Most Powerful Film Of All Time


"Howard Brazee" <howard@brazee.net> wrote in message
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On Mon, 3 Sep 2007 05:34:51 +0100, "Stone me" <stranger@corrall.msx
wrote:

Did you include this to check if anyone had read it?
Peoples of the world have differing heights for a number of
reasons. For example, some desert tribes of Africa are very
thin and tall while others who live in forested areas are shorter.

Some have speculated that these peoples have evolved a
beneficial characteristic. Those in desert areas have a smaller
profile to the sun, while people in forested areas would have no
advantage.

Although there is increasing evidence that diet plays a bigger
difference than previously thought - with "races" thought to be short
in the past fitting into international standards with diet changes.

This is very evident with the Chinese and Japanese whose average height has
increased since WWII. The change is attributed to a change in diet.

Yes; more animal protein. Which is why, as a long-time student of Japanese

GIBSON'S MASTERPIECE AN ALLEGORICAL WARNING AGAINST UNRESTRAINED
TYRANNY OF GOVERNMENT, HUMAN SACRIFICE AND ENSLAVEMENT

Thank you for posting this, I had no idea

GIBSON'S MASTERPIECE AN ALLEGORICAL WARNING AGAINST UNRESTRAINED
TYRANNY OF GOVERNMENT, HUMAN SACRIFICE AND ENSLAVEMENT

Mel Gibson's Apocalypto is the most powerful film of all time, it is
packed with strong positive messages and it is the most polished,
iconic and awe-inspiring allegorical warning against the unrestrained
power and abuse of government that cinema has ever seen.

The plot of the film depicts Aztec warrior armies being sent on
missions to capture and enslave neighboring tribes and bring them back
to be used as fodder for human sacrifice. Set in Mesoamerica just
before Spanish contact, it depicts the decline of the Maya
civilization.

Gibson again sets the tyrannical power of the state against the family
and the rag-tag bands, it's what we witnessed in The Patriot and
Braveheart but the message is driven home even more authoritatively in
Apocalypto. In almost every case throughout history, the state is
brutal, murdering and oppressive and it is out to dominate and enslave
the only people you can trust, your family, your brethren, your tribe.

The film details the horrors of unrestrained government and how
tyrants always seize the reigns of control, press on the nerve of
power and abuse, dominate and terrorize populations. This is the norm
of human history.

Apocalypto highlights the process of targeting the leading warriors of
the enemy tribe, the tallest, toughest, meanest, would be the prime
candidates for sacrifice and torture. This was done in an attempt to
please the gods with the most coveted sacrifice and is the reason why
indigenous populations in the region today are little over 5 foot tall
on average.

Human sacrifice is a fundamental tenet of all historical
dictatorships. It was practiced in ancient Germany, Greece, Asia and
across the planet. The Mayans saw it as a normal function of society
and would consider anyone who dissented as insane. Just as today, the
police state, the surveillance state, torture and numerous other
bizarre and abusive actions of the state are being normalized.

A telling moment in the film serves as commentary for the
foreknowledge and exploitation of astronomical occurrences throughout
history, where elite guilds versed in the secret wisdom of astronomy
would anticipate solar and lunar eclipses and use them to hoodwink
their populations into believing they held divine power, thus
enlisting their enslavement and obedience under the threat that sun
and moon would not return unless the people displayed total
submission.

Parallels can be drawn to modern times where a population paranoid,
fearful and uneducated can be brought to heel by manufactured monsters
and imagined foreboding disasters in the name of the war on terror.

The film also illustrates how elites throughout history push bread and
circuses, sporting and gladiatorial events, to distract the public
from real issues and create false heroes to dislodge the natural
mooring of man's moral compass and create a vacuum of good examples of
how humans should function in a free society.

The Britney Spears of yesteryear, the adulated ones with their robes,
bobbles and trinkets are exalted above all others and worshipped as
gods on earth.

The film also has a message of rejecting fear as a sickness, again
alluding to today's society where fear is used as a method of
brainwashing and control by the state.

Watching the film evokes a total immersion in the atmosphere of the
experience. You are able to suspend disbelief and really imagine you
are there in Mesoamerica. You feel the ancestral memories of the
elders around the camp fire, it stirs the instinctive echoes of time
that we as humanity all share.

There are very few films that have the impact of leaving you uplifted
and enlightened as you leave the cinema, and for those impressions to
stick. Apocalypto achieves this and teaches a philosophy of
perseverance and courage that maintains an indelible mark on the
viewer.

Mel Gibson is already being subjected to ridiculous hit pieces which
attack him for depicting the real nature of the brutal Mayan culture.

An Austin-American Statesman article written by Chris Garcia features
an interview with assistant professor in the Department of Art and Art
History at the University of Texas, Julia Guernsey.

The arguments used to bash Apocalypto are nitpicking jabs at minutia
which are then exploited to demonize the message of the entire film,
such as claimed minor inaccuracies in cave drawings and outright false
assertions such as the notion that women were not involved in the
sacrificial rituals.

The sacrifices themselves are not denied and in fact are exalted as
nothing more than a cultural tendency. Guernsey even has the temerity
at one point to spew that human sacrifice and sacrifice of babies was
a "pious act" done "with solemnity." Guernsey recoils and sneers at
the very notion that human sacrifice should be condemned.

Slamming a precise portrayal of Mayan culture as offensive and racist
is to be expected from moral relativists who are completely absent any
factual evidence to counter Gibson's depiction. The Nazi culture was
barbarous, genocidal and a disgrace to humanity - is it racist towards
German people to suggest this was the case?

Bounding babies and small children every morning and sacrificing them
to the water gods and the fertility gods is wrong. It was wrong then
and it would be wrong now.

Cutting someone's heart out at sunrise and sunset is wrong. It is not
racist or offensive to judge a culture if it is clearly distasteful.
It is not unacceptable to discern what is right according to our
innate moral compass. In fact, any attempt at removing the boundaries
and definition of evil is simply evil itself trying to erase our frame
of reference to characterize it.

Mel Gibson is Stanley Kubrick on steroids and Apocalypto elevates him
to the position of the greatest living director in the world today. He
is the standard of casting, cinematography and research. Apocalypto is
avant garde, state of the art and evergreen at every step of the way.

The world is not a safe place and history shows that the most
dangerous force is always government and the crime syndicates that
grow up around it. The same high priesthood that manipulated and
controlled the Mayan tribes of thousands of years ago were beholden to
the same statecraft of tyranny that is embraced by our rulers today.
Apocalypto is the very definition of this message and its power
obtains it the accolade of the most important film of our generation -
and possibly of all time.

NOT

What it IS is an unwanted tour through the mind of a very disturbed
filmmaker.