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Guest
Posted: Thu Nov 02, 2006 3:05 pm
Stan wrote:
Quote:
LG, how do you like The Desert Hawk? What is the quality of the video?
This one was a lot of fun when I was a little kid, but I have held off
buying it because they always say that the video isn't very good. It brings
back good memories and lots of swordfights.


Well, there sure are a lot of swordfights, alrighty, with those big
scimitars. Looks rather unwieldy to me, but there ya are.

It's a fun chapterplay so far (I'm 4 chapters in). The picture/sound is
above average for a grey market DVD. I got mine from Trevor at
Downunderdvd.com.
S D
Posted: Thu Nov 02, 2006 8:32 pm
Guest
Spider lady acts like she was a receptionist /wanna be actress somewhere
the day before , do like that little stage she uses to make an entrance.
Like the way the safe was " protected".
S D
Posted: Sat Nov 04, 2006 1:19 pm
Guest
Lois Lane`s hat looks like a job for SUPERMAN
S D
Posted: Fri Nov 17, 2006 10:43 pm
Guest
Spiderlady`s victims just died when the web got `em , she blew out the
wall...some tough babe.
Will Dockery
Posted: Sat Nov 18, 2006 1:16 pm
Guest
Short-to-no notice, but the /second/ Superman serial is on right now,
on TCM...

From: Dr Hermes - view profile
Date: Fri, Aug 9 2002 10:36 pm
Email: drher...@webtv.net (Dr Hermes)
Groups: alt.movies.serials

Quote:
From 1950, this sequel to Columbia`s 1948 SUPERMAN is actually a lot
of fun and has more spectacular challenges for our Man of Steel than

most serial heroes had to deal with -- earthquakes, floods, runaway
atomic missiles, collapsing bridges, death rays, as well as the usual
assortment of gunmen and cliff plunging cars. Superman actually gets
quite a workout here, catching a mortar shell and hurling it back,
casually yanking the engine block out of a car, stopping a train
head-on (although the blunt way he does it would have caused a
derailment and likely killed most of the people on board), crashing
through mountain walls. In a foreshadowing of the comics` Phantom
Zone, he is trapped in the `empty doom`, where he`s an invisible
wraith helpless to return by himself. The Man of Steel has to do some
creative thinking to get out of that one.

What most fans remember unhappily about this serial are the
dismal flying scenes. Instead of a life sized dummy on wires or even
some Peter Pan type wire work with a live stuntman, this clffhanger
sadly has Superman replaced by an animated cartoon whenever he takes
off. It`s not even a particularly convincing cartoon, with little
shading or attempt to make it look three dimensional. *sigh* Well, you
just have to overlook this, and if you do, the rest of the serial is
very entertaining. (Watching this, though, I had the thought that this
would have been the perfect way to shoot a Human Torch cliffhanger.)

Kirk Alyn as our hero gives an energetic, enthusiastic
performance. He plays Clark Kent differently enough from Superman that
it`s almost convincing the secret identity could fool people. As
Superman, Alyn is agile and brisk (the actor`s dancing background
shows here). Although he can be grim and intense, most of the time,
Alyn`s Superman is confident and cocky, grinning as bullets bounce off
his chest. (In my favorite moment, he casually deflects a bullet with
his palm, so that it ricochets to knock a chandelier down on a
gunman.)

Lyle Talbot as Luthor is a perfect, solid villain with real
conviction. (Gene Hackman would have benefitted from a screening of
this serial before appearing in the 1978 movie.) Luthor sometimes
wears a clunky, glittering helmet as `Atom Man` in a half hearted
effort to hide his identity. And it`s a bit odd but also pleasant to
see a very young Noel Neill as Lois Lane. Unforunately, she`s more
helpless than usual and Tommy Bond as a singularly thuglike Jimmy
Olsen is not much help.

If you`ve been discouraged from renting or buying this serial
because of what you`ve heard of the cartoon flying sequences, I would
recommend giving it a try anyway. Like the cheesy gorilla suits and
rear screen projection of stock footage, these are part of the era
that you just have to crank your suspension of disbelief up a notch
and enjoy the ride.

http://community.webtv.net/drhermes/ForbddenKnowledge

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Looks much better than the first one, so far...

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Will Dockery
Posted: Sat Nov 18, 2006 2:04 pm
Guest
ozzy.kopec@gmail.com wrote:
Quote:
Russell Watson wrote:

For those who are interested, the 1948 original live-action Superman
serial starring Kirk Alyn as Clark Kent/Superman starts on TCM at
10:00 AM EDT on Saturday 10/28.
There will be a new DVD box set of this one and the 1950 follow-up
"Atom Man vs. Superman" released along with all the other Supermania
that is coming out in conjunction with "Superman Returns" on the 28th
of next month.
================
Watched some episodes today - Lex Luthor the arch-enemy in the current
serial.

So far much better than the first serial... Luthor's a nice touch, and
the Atom-Man helmet is nice and goofy, definitely see the influence
this had on the campy tv Batman.

Quote:
The stock footage of the swaying bridge was from the Tacoma
Narrows Bridge that collapsed in 1940. The car had a poor little
doggie in it that was left behind and went down for the count. Unlike
the show, the driver was a man :0)

Yeah, they handled that scene well... too bad about the dog, though.

In fact the only thing I really hate about this is the awful animated
flying scenes. By the second serial it seems they'd have noticed that
this just doesn't work...

And can't help but wish George Reeves had come on just a bit earlier...

Quote:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-3932185696812733207&pr=goog-sl

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Anim8rFSK
Posted: Sat Nov 18, 2006 3:02 pm
Guest
In article <1163865855.092071.29760@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>,
"Will Dockery" <will.dockery@gmail.com> wrote:

Quote:
ozzy.kopec@gmail.com wrote:
Russell Watson wrote:

For those who are interested, the 1948 original live-action Superman
serial starring Kirk Alyn as Clark Kent/Superman starts on TCM at
10:00 AM EDT on Saturday 10/28.
There will be a new DVD box set of this one and the 1950 follow-up
"Atom Man vs. Superman" released along with all the other Supermania
that is coming out in conjunction with "Superman Returns" on the 28th
of next month.
================
Watched some episodes today - Lex Luthor the arch-enemy in the current
serial.

So far much better than the first serial... Luthor's a nice touch, and
the Atom-Man helmet is nice and goofy, definitely see the influence
this had on the campy tv Batman.

Yeah, but Luthor's gotta be the dumbest evil genius ever. He gets on
the radio and announces THIS IS LUTHOR -- YOU WILL NEVER BE ABLE TO
UNMASK ME! um - say what? And, no, that gun really isn't going to help.
Quote:

The stock footage of the swaying bridge was from the Tacoma
Narrows Bridge that collapsed in 1940. The car had a poor little
doggie in it that was left behind and went down for the count. Unlike
the show, the driver was a man :0)

Yeah, they handled that scene well... too bad about the dog, though.

In fact the only thing I really hate about this is the awful animated
flying scenes. By the second serial it seems they'd have noticed that
this just doesn't work...

Most of them so far seem to be stock footage from the first serial.
Quote:

And can't help but wish George Reeves had come on just a bit earlier...

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-3932185696812733207&pr=goog-sl

It's interesting to me that clearly time has passed since the first
serial; Superman and Luthor have had run ins before, people take
Superman somewhat for granted, and you get the feeling Lois knows darn
well Clark is Supes, but they just don't talk about it.

The big question for me is, why isn't Kirk Alyn credited???

There is however a 'Wally West' in there . .

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EBelcher
Posted: Sat Nov 18, 2006 9:56 pm
Guest
I think I saw the reason on imdb:Columbia decided to go with the idea
of "Superman playing himself". I'm not 100% sure though.
Anim8rFSK wrote:
Quote:
In article <1163865855.092071.29760@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>,
"Will Dockery" <will.dockery@gmail.com> wrote:

ozzy.kopec@gmail.com wrote:
Russell Watson wrote:

For those who are interested, the 1948 original live-action Superman
serial starring Kirk Alyn as Clark Kent/Superman starts on TCM at
10:00 AM EDT on Saturday 10/28.
There will be a new DVD box set of this one and the 1950 follow-up
"Atom Man vs. Superman" released along with all the other Supermania
that is coming out in conjunction with "Superman Returns" on the 28th
of next month.
================
Watched some episodes today - Lex Luthor the arch-enemy in the current
serial.

So far much better than the first serial... Luthor's a nice touch, and
the Atom-Man helmet is nice and goofy, definitely see the influence
this had on the campy tv Batman.

Yeah, but Luthor's gotta be the dumbest evil genius ever. He gets on
the radio and announces THIS IS LUTHOR -- YOU WILL NEVER BE ABLE TO
UNMASK ME! um - say what? And, no, that gun really isn't going to help.

The stock footage of the swaying bridge was from the Tacoma
Narrows Bridge that collapsed in 1940. The car had a poor little
doggie in it that was left behind and went down for the count. Unlike
the show, the driver was a man :0)

Yeah, they handled that scene well... too bad about the dog, though.

In fact the only thing I really hate about this is the awful animated
flying scenes. By the second serial it seems they'd have noticed that
this just doesn't work...

Most of them so far seem to be stock footage from the first serial.

And can't help but wish George Reeves had come on just a bit earlier...

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-3932185696812733207&pr=goog-sl

It's interesting to me that clearly time has passed since the first
serial; Superman and Luthor have had run ins before, people take
Superman somewhat for granted, and you get the feeling Lois knows darn
well Clark is Supes, but they just don't talk about it.

The big question for me is, why isn't Kirk Alyn credited???

There is however a 'Wally West' in there . .

--
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Troy.Heagy@gmail.com,videonovels@yahoo.com
videonovels2010@yahoo.com,telenovels@yahoo.com
Guest
Posted: Sat Nov 18, 2006 11:17 pm
Quote:

If you`ve been discouraged from renting or buying this serial
because of what you`ve heard of the cartoon flying sequences, I would
recommend giving it a try anyway. Like the cheesy gorilla suits and
rear screen projection of stock footage, these are part of the era
that you just have to crank your suspension of disbelief up a notch
and enjoy the ride.

When the serial was made, the studio doing the animated flying scenes
told producer Sam Katzman that for $60 more a minute they could make
Superman three-dimensional.
Katzman replied, "No, that's good enough."
Anim8rFSK
Posted: Sat Nov 18, 2006 11:42 pm
Guest
In article <1163894201.291536.249480@e3g2000cwe.googlegroups.com>,
"EBelcher" <shiruss@aol.com> wrote:

Quote:
I think I saw the reason on imdb:Columbia decided to go with the idea
of "Superman playing himself". I'm not 100% sure though.

Does seem odd though, given that this is the second serial. Wasn't he
credited in the first? Anybody know?

Quote:
Anim8rFSK wrote:
In article <1163865855.092071.29760@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>,
"Will Dockery" <will.dockery@gmail.com> wrote:

ozzy.kopec@gmail.com wrote:
Russell Watson wrote:

For those who are interested, the 1948 original live-action Superman
serial starring Kirk Alyn as Clark Kent/Superman starts on TCM at
10:00 AM EDT on Saturday 10/28.
There will be a new DVD box set of this one and the 1950 follow-up
"Atom Man vs. Superman" released along with all the other Supermania
that is coming out in conjunction with "Superman Returns" on the 28th
of next month.
================
Watched some episodes today - Lex Luthor the arch-enemy in the current
serial.

So far much better than the first serial... Luthor's a nice touch, and
the Atom-Man helmet is nice and goofy, definitely see the influence
this had on the campy tv Batman.

Yeah, but Luthor's gotta be the dumbest evil genius ever. He gets on
the radio and announces THIS IS LUTHOR -- YOU WILL NEVER BE ABLE TO
UNMASK ME! um - say what? And, no, that gun really isn't going to help.

The stock footage of the swaying bridge was from the Tacoma
Narrows Bridge that collapsed in 1940. The car had a poor little
doggie in it that was left behind and went down for the count. Unlike
the show, the driver was a man :0)

Yeah, they handled that scene well... too bad about the dog, though.

In fact the only thing I really hate about this is the awful animated
flying scenes. By the second serial it seems they'd have noticed that
this just doesn't work...

Most of them so far seem to be stock footage from the first serial.

And can't help but wish George Reeves had come on just a bit earlier...

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-3932185696812733207&pr=goog-sl

It's interesting to me that clearly time has passed since the first
serial; Superman and Luthor have had run ins before, people take
Superman somewhat for granted, and you get the feeling Lois knows darn
well Clark is Supes, but they just don't talk about it.

The big question for me is, why isn't Kirk Alyn credited???

There is however a 'Wally West' in there . .

--
Killfile Troy Heagy in all his many incarnations now:
Troy.Heagy@gmail.com,videonovels@yahoo.com
videonovels2010@yahoo.com,telenovels@yahoo.com

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Troy.Heagy@gmail.com,videonovels@yahoo.com
videonovels2010@yahoo.com,telenovels@yahoo.com
S D
Posted: Sun Nov 19, 2006 12:02 am
Guest
I think the dog was too frightened to allow anyone to grab him
Will Dockery
Posted: Sun Nov 19, 2006 2:32 pm
Guest
"Anim8rFSK" wrote:
Quote:
"EBelcher" wrote:

I think I saw the reason on imdb:Columbia decided to go with the idea
of "Superman playing himself". I'm not 100% sure though.

Does seem odd though, given that this is the second serial. Wasn't he
credited in the first? Anybody know?

I haven't found the actual quotes, but this was an idea the serial guys got
from the radio show... that it actually /was/ Superman in the film... it may
have worked somewhat on radio, but is just more proto-camp in the films...
this Superman definitely in on the same "Earth" as Adam West's Batman...

Looking through the Google archives for the site(s) where I read this, I
came across another nice collection of several of the Superman radio shows:

http://xroads.virginia.edu/~ug02/superman/radio.html

Quote:
For those who are interested, the 1948 original live-action
Superman
serial starring Kirk Alyn as Clark Kent/Superman starts on TCM
at
10:00 AM EDT on Saturday 10/28.
There will be a new DVD box set of this one and the 1950
follow-up
"Atom Man vs. Superman" released along with all the other
Supermania
that is coming out in conjunction with "Superman Returns" on the
28th
of next month.
================
Watched some episodes today - Lex Luthor the arch-enemy in the
current
serial.

So far much better than the first serial... Luthor's a nice touch,
and
the Atom-Man helmet is nice and goofy, definitely see the influence
this had on the campy tv Batman.

Yeah, but Luthor's gotta be the dumbest evil genius ever. He gets on
the radio and announces THIS IS LUTHOR -- YOU WILL NEVER BE ABLE TO
UNMASK ME! um - say what? And, no, that gun really isn't going to
help.

The stock footage of the swaying bridge was from the Tacoma
Narrows Bridge that collapsed in 1940. The car had a poor little
doggie in it that was left behind and went down for the count.
Unlike
the show, the driver was a man :0)

Yeah, they handled that scene well... too bad about the dog, though.

In fact the only thing I really hate about this is the awful
animated
flying scenes. By the second serial it seems they'd have noticed
that
this just doesn't work...

Most of them so far seem to be stock footage from the first serial.

And can't help but wish George Reeves had come on just a bit
earlier...


http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-3932185696812733207&pr=goog-sl

It's interesting to me that clearly time has passed since the first
serial; Superman and Luthor have had run ins before, people take
Superman somewhat for granted, and you get the feeling Lois knows darn
well Clark is Supes, but they just don't talk about it.

The big question for me is, why isn't Kirk Alyn credited???

There is however a 'Wally West' in there . .

--
"Wobble" by Dockery-Conley:
http://www.myspace.com/willdockery

Backyard Blues poster by Eileen D'esterno:
http://myspace-855.vo.llnwd.net/01428/55/80/1428930855_l.jpg
Sweet Sugir
Posted: Sun Nov 19, 2006 6:34 pm
Guest
"Will Dockery" <will_dockery@knology.net> wrote in message news:4337a$45608856$18d61a6d$15961@KNOLOGY.NET...
Quote:

"Anim8rFSK" wrote:
"EBelcher" wrote:

I think I saw the reason on imdb:Columbia decided to go with the idea
of "Superman playing himself". I'm not 100% sure though.

Does seem odd though, given that this is the second serial. Wasn't he
credited in the first? Anybody know?

I haven't found the actual quotes, but this was an idea the serial guys got
from the radio show... that it actually /was/ Superman in the film... it may
have worked somewhat on radio, but is just more proto-camp in the films...
this Superman definitely in on the same "Earth" as Adam West's Batman...

Looking through the Google archives for the site(s) where I read this, I
came across another nice collection of several of the Superman radio shows:

http://xroads.virginia.edu/~ug02/superman/radio.html

For those who are interested, the 1948 original live-action
Superman
serial starring Kirk Alyn as Clark Kent/Superman starts on TCM
at
10:00 AM EDT on Saturday 10/28.
There will be a new DVD box set of this one and the 1950
follow-up
"Atom Man vs. Superman" released along with all the other
Supermania
that is coming out in conjunction with "Superman Returns" on the
28th
of next month.
================
Watched some episodes today - Lex Luthor the arch-enemy in the
current
serial.

So far much better than the first serial... Luthor's a nice touch,
and
the Atom-Man helmet is nice and goofy, definitely see the influence
this had on the campy tv Batman.

Yeah, but Luthor's gotta be the dumbest evil genius ever. He gets on
the radio and announces THIS IS LUTHOR -- YOU WILL NEVER BE ABLE TO
UNMASK ME! um - say what? And, no, that gun really isn't going to
help.

The stock footage of the swaying bridge was from the Tacoma
Narrows Bridge that collapsed in 1940. The car had a poor little
doggie in it that was left behind and went down for the count.
Unlike
the show, the driver was a man :0)

Yeah, they handled that scene well... too bad about the dog, though.

In fact the only thing I really hate about this is the awful
animated
flying scenes. By the second serial it seems they'd have noticed
that
this just doesn't work...

Most of them so far seem to be stock footage from the first serial.

And can't help but wish George Reeves had come on just a bit
earlier...


http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-3932185696812733207&pr=goog-sl

It's interesting to me that clearly time has passed since the first
serial; Superman and Luthor have had run ins before, people take
Superman somewhat for granted, and you get the feeling Lois knows darn
well Clark is Supes, but they just don't talk about it.

The big question for me is, why isn't Kirk Alyn credited???

There is however a 'Wally West' in there . .


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Everybody feels the wind blow...


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Posted: Mon Nov 20, 2006 8:15 am
Guest
Stan wrote:

Quote:
Thanks, LG.


LaughingGravy2000@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1162487130.114774.194040@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com...

Stan wrote:
LG, how do you like The Desert Hawk? What is the quality of the video?
This one was a lot of fun when I was a little kid, but I have held off
buying it because they always say that the video isn't very good. It
brings
back good memories and lots of swordfights.


Well, there sure are a lot of swordfights, alrighty, with those big
scimitars. Looks rather unwieldy to me, but there ya are.

It's a fun chapterplay so far (I'm 4 chapters in). The picture/sound is
above average for a grey market DVD. I got mine from Trevor at
Downunderdvd.com.

~

The penultimate episode (#14) of Green Archer was fun - finished the
excellent Red Ryder the other week - both from VCI.

Nick
Bill Steele
Posted: Mon Nov 20, 2006 6:02 pm
Guest
In article <1163862985.449991.89270@k70g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
"Will Dockery" <will.dockery@gmail.com> wrote:

Quote:
If you`ve been discouraged from renting or buying this serial
because of what you`ve heard of the cartoon flying sequences, I would
recommend giving it a try anyway. Like the cheesy gorilla suits and
rear screen projection of stock footage, these are part of the era
that you just have to crank your suspension of disbelief up a notch
and enjoy the ride.

It's not just that the flying was animated, but that it was *badly*
animated. Superman's body had a tendency to bend, and they drew in a
streaking trail that made him look like Mighty Mouse. And they syhould
have avoided direct cuts from live to animated, where Superman suddenly
flattens out and loses all shading. In the same era, Republic produced
far more believable flying for Captain Marvel.
 
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