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| Lawrence Wilson |
 Posted: Sat Oct 04, 2003 6:27 am |
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Earlier this year I purchased a Minolta XL-Sound 42 camera in the hopes of
getting back into shooting S8, but I was deterred by the discovery that the
exposure meter doesn't work, and I don't currently have an external
lightmeter.
I'm now back on Ebay again, looking for an older camera, and I am actively
considering the following:
Canon 1014/1218/1014XL-S
Chinon Pacific 200/SMR(?)
Nizo 6080
I'm leaning towards the Chinon and the 1014XL-S, mainly because of its
reputation. I've actually worked with the Chinon and the Nizo, but I've had
a bad history with Nizos (I went through two Integral 7s in the space of a
year; they're not the most durable things out there).
The Chinon can take 200' loads, so that's a point in its favor, although I
suspect they're not being made anymore.
Any advice anyone has would be greatly appreciated, and if there's a cheap
Beaulieu 4008/5008 out there, please let me know.
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"Gee, it must be swell to be so perfect AND odor-free."
--Del Griffith (the late John Candy), "Planes, Trains and Automobiles" |
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| Jim Carlile |
| Posted: Mon Oct 06, 2003 4:38 am |
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I'm not sure how the Pro8 cartridges are notched for filmspeed. I
suspect the best camera to use would be a Beaulieu, all of which have
completely manual
overide for exposure. They are also robust.
To me, it makes no sense to use a regular consumer camera for the pro8
stocks. There are so many B's around it should be easy to pick one up.
The Pro8 stocks are expensive, so using a much cheaper camera isn't
too cost efficient....?
"Lawrence Wilson" <lwilson@swfla.rr.com> wrote in message news:<i%rfb.3234$qw.405812@twister.tampabay.rr.com>...
Quote: Earlier this year I purchased a Minolta XL-Sound 42 camera in the hopes of
getting back into shooting S8, but I was deterred by the discovery that the
exposure meter doesn't work, and I don't currently have an external
lightmeter.
I'm now back on Ebay again, looking for an older camera, and I am actively
considering the following:
Canon 1014/1218/1014XL-S
Chinon Pacific 200/SMR(?)
Nizo 6080
I'm leaning towards the Chinon and the 1014XL-S, mainly because of its
reputation. I've actually worked with the Chinon and the Nizo, but I've had
a bad history with Nizos (I went through two Integral 7s in the space of a
year; they're not the most durable things out there).
The Chinon can take 200' loads, so that's a point in its favor, although I
suspect they're not being made anymore.
Any advice anyone has would be greatly appreciated, and if there's a cheap
Beaulieu 4008/5008 out there, please let me know. |
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| spambooster |
| Posted: Mon Oct 06, 2003 6:40 am |
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Take a look at the Nikon R10/8. Those cams use an extra stop pin for
steady registration. Bad
registration is a habit of all cam makes other than the Nikon R10/8 due to
different thickness in
the film material (From K40) and the original Kodak Pressurplate.
I have seen R10 users claim rock steady images for PRO8 neg stock (as well
as VNF) with this
cam. This is unique.
Even PRO8 struggles with this problem on their re-make Beaulieus.
And the R10 build quality overruns any
Beaulieu made. Superior lens too.
It might be worth looking into the Frame Master optional pressure plate
too. It will stabilize the
film over the film port, The original Kodak plate will not be good with
other than K40 film
material.
I testshot some PRO8 film with a Standard Canon 1014 XL- S which is the
best cam I know of.
Totally Rock steaty K40 takes.
However the neg film bent and curled and jumped over the film port so the
takes were un-
useable.
PRO8 claims the problem to originate form a too hard pickup force on the
take up reel in the cam
so they adjust their cams so they used reduced force to match the neg film
characterestics.
You may take a look at the Frame master stability test samples here:
http://www.german.film-super8.de/Demo-Videos/demo-videos.html
The easy choice is to use K40 with a high end Japanese make cam. Probably
the best solution.
Lawrence Wilson wrote:
Quote: Earlier this year I purchased a Minolta XL-Sound 42 camera in the hopes of
getting back into shooting S8, but I was deterred by the discovery that the
exposure meter doesn't work, and I don't currently have an external
lightmeter.
I'm now back on Ebay again, looking for an older camera, and I am actively
considering the following:
Canon 1014/1218/1014XL-S
Chinon Pacific 200/SMR(?)
Nizo 6080
I'm leaning towards the Chinon and the 1014XL-S, mainly because of its
reputation. I've actually worked with the Chinon and the Nizo, but I've had
a bad history with Nizos (I went through two Integral 7s in the space of a
year; they're not the most durable things out there).
The Chinon can take 200' loads, so that's a point in its favor, although I
suspect they're not being made anymore.
Any advice anyone has would be greatly appreciated, and if there's a cheap
Beaulieu 4008/5008 out there, please let me know.
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"Gee, it must be swell to be so perfect AND odor-free."
--Del Griffith (the late John Candy), "Planes, Trains and Automobiles" |
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