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| Jim Rillie |
 Posted: Mon Apr 12, 2004 4:59 pm |
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Hi Ladles and gentlespoons:
I'm working on a feature shot with NTSC rushes, and to be posted in the
UK with final film, (and of course all the other visual possibilities)
release.
Live music scene tomorrow. We will record, and shoot at the same time
(the director wants that live feel) been there done that . It was so
simple back in the "Nagra with neopilot" days - xtal sync. I have worked
MOW's with pre recorded music Pulled up for sync Playback. But we need
to use the previously recorded live tracks for playback.
Should I just use the backup TCDD8 tape as the playback master, or dub
on to my ancient but functional RD8 Fostex and pull up for playback?
really in a fog about correct procedure here, but will probably play it
safe and just play back in real time with no pull down/pull up.
Regards,
Jim Rillie |
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| Ray Collins |
| Posted: Mon Apr 12, 2004 5:38 pm |
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You nailed it. What you recorded on set is at "real" time. It will be
pulled down in transfer. If you play back your original recording 30
FPS or a a dub of it, you will be fine In this case they will pull
everything down (live and play back) in transfer that way it all matches.
Jim Rillie wrote:
Quote: Hi Ladles and gentlespoons:
I'm working on a feature shot with NTSC rushes, and to be posted in the
UK with final film, (and of course all the other visual possibilities)
release.
Live music scene tomorrow. We will record, and shoot at the same time
(the director wants that live feel) been there done that . It was so
simple back in the "Nagra with neopilot" days - xtal sync. I have worked
MOW's with pre recorded music Pulled up for sync Playback. But we need
to use the previously recorded live tracks for playback.
Should I just use the backup TCDD8 tape as the playback master, or dub
on to my ancient but functional RD8 Fostex and pull up for playback?
really in a fog about correct procedure here, but will probably play it
safe and just play back in real time with no pull down/pull up.
Regards,
Jim Rillie
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| Jim Rillie |
| Posted: Mon Apr 12, 2004 7:14 pm |
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Ray Collins wrote:
Quote: You nailed it. What you recorded on set is at "real" time. It will be
pulled down in transfer. If you play back your original recording 30
FPS or a a dub of it, you will be fine In this case they will pull
everything down (live and play back) in transfer that way it all
matches.
Jim Rillie wrote:
Hi Ladles and gentlespoons:
I'm working on a feature shot with NTSC rushes, and to be posted in
the UK with final film, (and of course all the other visual
possibilities) release.
Live music scene tomorrow. We will record, and shoot at the same
time (the director wants that live feel) been there done that . It
was so simple back in the "Nagra with neopilot" days - xtal sync. I
have worked MOW's with pre recorded music Pulled up for sync
Playback. But we need to use the previously recorded live tracks for
playback.
Should I just use the backup TCDD8 tape as the playback master, or
dub on to my ancient but functional RD8 Fostex and pull up for playback?
really in a fog about correct procedure here, but will probably play
it safe and just play back in real time with no pull down/pull up.
Regards,
Jim Rillie
Agreed Ray
The only thing is the purist will not want to degrade the original
recording by pulling it down as opposed to leaving it untouched .... |
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| Ray Collins |
| Posted: Mon Apr 12, 2004 8:03 pm |
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It's .1%, I doubt, on an original piece, that anyone would notice.
(even the talent)
Jim Rillie wrote:
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Ray Collins wrote:
You nailed it. What you recorded on set is at "real" time. It will be
pulled down in transfer. If you play back your original recording 30
FPS or a a dub of it, you will be fine In this case they will pull
everything down (live and play back) in transfer that way it all
matches.
Jim Rillie wrote:
Hi Ladles and gentlespoons:
I'm working on a feature shot with NTSC rushes, and to be posted in
the UK with final film, (and of course all the other visual
possibilities) release.
Live music scene tomorrow. We will record, and shoot at the same
time (the director wants that live feel) been there done that . It
was so simple back in the "Nagra with neopilot" days - xtal sync. I
have worked MOW's with pre recorded music Pulled up for sync
Playback. But we need to use the previously recorded live tracks for
playback.
Should I just use the backup TCDD8 tape as the playback master, or
dub on to my ancient but functional RD8 Fostex and pull up for playback?
really in a fog about correct procedure here, but will probably play
it safe and just play back in real time with no pull down/pull up.
Regards,
Jim Rillie
Agreed Ray
The only thing is the purist will not want to degrade the original
recording by pulling it down as opposed to leaving it untouched ....
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| Ray Collins |
| Posted: Mon Apr 12, 2004 8:13 pm |
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Last time I was going to go I was sent the pass, so far nothing in the
mail? I registered on the Sound Devices site. |
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| Matt Mayer |
| Posted: Mon Apr 12, 2004 8:39 pm |
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Ray Collins wrote:
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Last time I was going to go I was sent the pass, so far nothing in the
mail? I registered on the Sound Devices site.
Ray,
how long ago? I just read the other day that after April 5, they
weren't mailing out anymore stuff, it was on-site pickup only. I think
even if you don't get the stuff in the mail, you can pick up a new badge
on-site.
---Matt
Chicago, Il |
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| Simon |
| Posted: Tue Apr 13, 2004 9:19 am |
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I registered through the Sound Devices site and received my pass two
weeks ago. Unfortunatly plans have changed and I won't be able to make
it to NAB. Put the regitration process seemed to work fine. |
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