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| Matthew Montchalin |
 Posted: Sun Nov 07, 2004 7:53 am |
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Small bodies of water don't behave quite the same way as large bodies
do.
If I have a big ship forty feet long mocked up in miniature - so the
model is only four or five feet long - what should I add to the water
to make the waves break up smaller?
Or should I plan on blue-screening the model onto actual footage
of water, and merging them together that way? |
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| Matthew Montchalin |
| Posted: Mon Nov 08, 2004 5:43 am |
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|Small bodies of water don't behave quite the same way as large bodies
|do.
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|If I have a big ship forty feet long mocked up in miniature - so the
|model is only four or five feet long - what should I add to the water
|to make the waves break up smaller?
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|Or should I plan on blue-screening the model onto actual footage
|of water, and merging them together that way?
How did Roman Polanski (I think he's the one) do those boat-in-the-water
shots for that Robin Williams & Walter Mathau movie, PIRATES?
Do people usually add chalk, salt, and detergent to the water to get
it to froth easier? |
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| James T. Kirk |
| Posted: Thu Nov 11, 2004 9:17 pm |
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I think for miniature boat/ship shots these days they try to make the
miniatures as big as possible
to make the scale of the water more realistic (Cutthroat Island used a model
ship about 35 feet long (about a quarter scale). The model battleships in
the film Tora! Tora! Tora! (1970) were 40ft long. The models are shot with
high speed cameras.
According to the internet movie database (imdb.com), for Titanic (1997),
Long distance shots of the ships exterior were done by Digital Domain. A
1/20th scale model was filmed and computer generated images of people, ocean
and smoke were added. A 1/8th scale model of the ship's stern was also
used.
For the futuristic ship in The Fifth Element they used a miniature ship with
CGI water. PS: I don't know about the stuff they add to the water, but for
waterfalls they sometimes use salt.
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Quote: |Small bodies of water don't behave quite the same way as large bodies
|do.
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|If I have a big ship forty feet long mocked up in miniature - so the
|model is only four or five feet long - what should I add to the water
|to make the waves break up smaller?
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|Or should I plan on blue-screening the model onto actual footage
|of water, and merging them together that way?
How did Roman Polanski (I think he's the one) do those boat-in-the-water
shots for that Robin Williams & Walter Mathau movie, PIRATES?
Do people usually add chalk, salt, and detergent to the water to get
it to froth easier?
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