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| shlemazeltov |
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complete definitions:
heston-moses. others have played moses but pale in comparison.
scott-patton. who dares play patton again?
hopkins-nixon.
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still awaiting DA man:
all jesuses have been unsatisfactory or incomplete.
all alexander the greats have been hardly great.
founding fathers. i can't think of one definitive founding father role. |
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| Neil Coward |
| Posted: Fri Oct 15, 2004 7:44 am |
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How about Peter O'Toole as the definitive Lawrence of Arabia?
"shlemazeltov" <gonif_mamzer@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Quote: complete definitions:
heston-moses. others have played moses but pale in comparison.
scott-patton. who dares play patton again?
hopkins-nixon.
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still awaiting DA man:
all jesuses have been unsatisfactory or incomplete.
all alexander the greats have been hardly great.
founding fathers. i can't think of one definitive founding father role. |
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| phantomb |
| Posted: Fri Oct 15, 2004 10:15 am |
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"shlemazeltov" <gonif_mamzer@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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all jesuses have been unsatisfactory or incomplete.
You obviously haven't seen Robert Powell as Jesus of Nazareth in Franco
Zeferelli's masterpiece. |
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| Bill |
| Posted: Fri Oct 15, 2004 12:17 pm |
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| Raymond Massey as Lincoln. |
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| Frank R.A.J. Maloney |
| Posted: Fri Oct 15, 2004 12:33 pm |
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"Bill" <ws21@cornell.edu> wrote in message
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Raymond Massey as Lincoln.
Don Ameche as Alexander Graham Bell in _The Story of Alexander Graham
Bell_(1939). He so owned the role that for some years afterwards the
telephone was known as an ameche.
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| Tim Kelley |
| Posted: Fri Oct 15, 2004 5:05 pm |
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Peter O'Toole as Henry II
William Daniels as John Adams
Glenda Jackson as Elizabeth I
"Neil Coward" <Neil.Coward@nospam.com> wrote in message news:<ckp29u$h31$1@titan.btinternet.com>...
Quote: How about Peter O'Toole as the definitive Lawrence of Arabia?
"shlemazeltov" <gonif_mamzer@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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complete definitions:
heston-moses. others have played moses but pale in comparison.
scott-patton. who dares play patton again?
hopkins-nixon.
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still awaiting DA man:
all jesuses have been unsatisfactory or incomplete.
all alexander the greats have been hardly great.
founding fathers. i can't think of one definitive founding father role. |
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| Guest |
| Posted: Fri Oct 15, 2004 8:19 pm |
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On 15-Oct-2004, Bob Tiernan <zulu.pacifier.com@shell1.pacifier.net> wrote:
Quote: scott-patton. who dares play patton again?
Hopefully someone who sounds like the real Patton.
Have you ever heard his voice on a newsreel?
You don't have to be realistic to take on the role. Peter O'Toole was too
tall for T. E. Lawrence. We have no idea what Jesus looked or sounded
like.
You just need to play the role well enough that we accept it instead of
reality. |
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| A. Gerard |
| Posted: Fri Oct 15, 2004 8:55 pm |
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founding fathers. i can't think of one definitive founding father role.
Surely you don't disregard 1776 (1972)? Maybe Ken Howard's Thomas
Jefferson may be incomplete, but William Daniels' John Adams and
Howard DaSilva's Benjamin Franklin are the definitive treatments to
these characters.
Barry Bostwick- George Washington (GEORGE WASHINGTON)
Annette Crosbie- Queen Victoria (EDWARD THE KING)
Brian Blessed- Augustus (I,CLAUDIUS)
John Hurt- Caligula (ditto)
Derek Jacobi- Claudius (ditto)
George Baker- Tiberius (ditto)
Glenda Jackson- Elizabeth I (ELIZABETH R)
Ian Holm- Napoleon (NAPOLEON AND LOVE, EMPEROR'S NEW CLOTHES)
Robert Morley- Louis XVI (MARIE ANTOINETTE)
Jane Alexander- Eleanor Roosevelt (ELEANOR AND FRANKLIN)
Peter O'Toole- Henry II (LION IN WINTER)
Katherine Hepburn- Eleanor of Acquitaine (ditto)
Charlton Heston- Cardinal Richelieu (THE THREE MUSKETEERS, THE FOUR
MUSKETEERS)
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| Bob Tiernan |
| Posted: Fri Oct 15, 2004 11:23 pm |
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Howard Brazee wrote:
Quote: Bob Tiernan wrote:
Hopefully someone who sounds like the real Patton.
Have you ever heard his voice on a newsreel?
Quote: You don't have to be realistic to take on the role.
Peter O'Toole was too tall for T. E. Lawrence.
That's minor compared to Patton's voice when you consider
that Patton's voice in the film has become so much a
part of what defined him, while the real man's voice
was very much a part of him to those who worked with
him (in a different way). One staff officer recalled
years later that at 3rd Army headquarters he went into
Patton's office to hand him some papers while Patton
started chewing someone out over the phone in tha
high pitched squeaky voice - the staff officer left
the room and stood outside the door listening and
trying not to laugh at how the voice and the man
were such a mis-match.
Bob T |
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| Bob Tiernan |
| Posted: Fri Oct 15, 2004 11:32 pm |
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Bill wrote:
Quote: Raymond Massey as Lincoln.
Well, he didn't overplay it or seem to be
an overbaked Lincoln, like Hal Holbrook.
Saw Hal doing Abe in North and South - looked
like he had a Lincoln Halloween mask glued to
his face.
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| Bob Tiernan |
| Posted: Fri Oct 15, 2004 11:33 pm |
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Frank R.A.J. Maloney wrote:
Quote: Don Ameche as Alexander Graham Bell
Edward G. Robinson as Dr. Ehrlich, or how about
Joel McCrea as the dentist who invented sedation.
Wow, that sounds interesting.
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| shlemazeltov |
| Posted: Sat Oct 16, 2004 12:08 am |
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anmcco43@hotmail.com (A. Gerard) wrote in message news:<218787c5.0410151855.3f9e342a@posting.google.com>...
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founding fathers. i can't think of one definitive founding father role.
Surely you don't disregard 1776 (1972)? Maybe Ken Howard's Thomas
Jefferson may be incomplete, but William Daniels' John Adams and
Howard DaSilva's Benjamin Franklin are the definitive treatments to
these characters.
Barry Bostwick- George Washington (GEORGE WASHINGTON)
Annette Crosbie- Queen Victoria (EDWARD THE KING)
Brian Blessed- Augustus (I,CLAUDIUS)
John Hurt- Caligula (ditto)
Derek Jacobi- Claudius (ditto)
George Baker- Tiberius (ditto)
Glenda Jackson- Elizabeth I (ELIZABETH R)
Ian Holm- Napoleon (NAPOLEON AND LOVE, EMPEROR'S NEW CLOTHES)
Robert Morley- Louis XVI (MARIE ANTOINETTE)
Jane Alexander- Eleanor Roosevelt (ELEANOR AND FRANKLIN)
Peter O'Toole- Henry II (LION IN WINTER)
Katherine Hepburn- Eleanor of Acquitaine (ditto)
Charlton Heston- Cardinal Richelieu (THE THREE MUSKETEERS, THE FOUR
MUSKETEERS)
A.Magik
i wouldn't call any of these definitive. |
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| shlemazeltov |
| Posted: Sat Oct 16, 2004 12:09 am |
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kingsley-gandhi
gonif_mamzer@hotmail.com (shlemazeltov) wrote in message news:<1b887f21.0410141121.7b39774d@posting.google.com>...
Quote: complete definitions:
heston-moses. others have played moses but pale in comparison.
scott-patton. who dares play patton again?
hopkins-nixon.
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still awaiting DA man:
all jesuses have been unsatisfactory or incomplete.
all alexander the greats have been hardly great.
founding fathers. i can't think of one definitive founding father role.
unsatisfying:
washington as macum x
smith as ali. |
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| Brent McKee |
| Posted: Sat Oct 16, 2004 2:19 am |
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"Bill" <ws21@cornell.edu> wrote in message
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Raymond Massey as Lincoln.
Also Raymond Massey as John Brown (Santa Fe Trail).
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| Calvin Rice |
| Posted: Sat Oct 16, 2004 7:04 am |
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Bob Tiernan <zulu.pacifier.com@shell1.pacifier.net> wrote in message news:<Pine.GSO.4.58MAILDIR.0410152230450.9953@shell1.pacifier.net>...
Quote: Well, he didn't overplay it or seem to be
an overbaked Lincoln, like Hal Holbrook.
Saw Hal doing Abe in North and South - looked
like he had a Lincoln Halloween mask glued to
his face.
On the stage and on records, but maybe not in a movie: Hal Holbrook's
Mark twain.
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