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| Isaac Kuo |
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gonif_mamzer@hotmail.com (shlemazeltov) wrote in message news:<1b887f21.0410131157.3e11f7dd@posting.google.com>...
Quote: "Kingo Gondo" <kingo_nospam_gondo@zor.org> wrote in message news:<sc4bd.1075893$yk.181282@news.easynews.com>...
"shlemazeltov" <gonif_mamzer@hotmail.com> wrote in message
and, the message was liberal.
It was? What was it?
get off the dope. the message is clear as day. mankind destroyed
itself thru nukes. among apekind, the liberal chimps are better than
fascist gorillians or theocratic oranglergy. the debate at end of the
movie is like the freakin scopes trial.
You forgot the message:
"So you want to defend your freedom and your life?
Get a gun. Learn to shoot."
The intellectual chimps get nowhere with their fancy speeches
and attempts to reason with the establishment peacefully.
Taylor only wins his freedom by taking matters into his
own hands with violence. Taylor is just a hapless victim
waiting to be destroyed like his shipmates until he gets
his hands on a rifle.
Quote: How? Was Taylor emblematic of "hippiedom" somehow?
He seemed more of a radical individualist than any kind
of communitarian. Let's get the Randians at it again.
i didn't say heston perse. but, heston represented the free spirit.
he left behind earth as an astro and didn't give a ahit about the
past. he looked into the future. he was into freedom. even free
love with that bimbo.
he got on a horse with a chick like a biker.
No, he got on a horse with a chick like a cowboy.
Bikers don't need guns to stave off hostile natives.
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| Bob Tiernan |
| Posted: Thu Oct 14, 2004 10:58 am |
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Joe McC wrote:
Quote: My own politics are left of centre in UK terms....Despite that, I loathe
the shallow revisionist attitude towards Heston - a very fine actor and
a searingly intelligent & seemingly fair human being.
One of the shittiest thing done by any actor in recent memory
was when Tim Roth refused to do a scene with Heston in the
remake of "Planet of the Apes".
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| shlemazeltov |
| Posted: Thu Oct 14, 2004 4:00 pm |
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natch@my-deja.com (natch) wrote in message news:<1c4f9312.0410140848.3fef427e@posting.google.com>...
Quote: gonif_mamzer@hotmail.com (shlemazeltov) wrote in message news:<1b887f21.0410122155.625bda61@posting.google.com>...
didn't it go against the kind of roles he'd been famous for?
he'd played moses, ben-hur, etc. noble, dignified, poised, majestic.
also, movies with reverent and deeply conservative values.
in planet of the apes, heston was brash, defiant, cocky, and
irreverent. even ruthless and reckless. and, the message was liberal.
yeah that makes sense (tongue firmly in cheek)
hey, the apes were a metafor for blacks and Heston represents the
strong white man who, while the other whites sit back and take it,
tries to defy them
not true. the apes were white-ish and conservative while heston
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| Vince Macek |
| Posted: Thu Oct 14, 2004 4:02 pm |
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John Harkness <jhXaYrknessZ@sympatico.ca> wrote in message news:<pcnqm01f92ufc2a82guiu8pkau7149b60c@4ax.com>...
Quote: On Wed, 13 Oct 2004 10:58:54 -0400, eastcoastAl <eca@cnospam.com
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He did it for the money like lots of his other b-flicks. Omegaman in
particular.
The PofhteApes series is a bunch of b-flicks. Now elevated to a cult
status. I liked them. I still watch occassionally esp when I can get
the whole series in a couple of days. But Great they're not.
EastcoastAl
The sequels were Bs. The original was very much an "A" production, an
expensive, major studio film with a major star in the lead..
It's not great either, but it does have its moments, and an
astonishing score by Jerry Goldsmith.
The original was one of 20th Century Fox's big moneymakers that year
and IIRC kept the studio solvent. So what do they do for the sequels?
Slash the budget and keep slashing. Like the late great Rodney put it
- no respect at all.
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| nut |
| Posted: Thu Oct 14, 2004 7:03 pm |
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Bob Tiernan <zulu.pacifier.com@shell1.pacifier.net> wrote in message news:<Pine.GSO.4.58MAILDIR.0410140956470.27802@shell1.pacifier.net>...
Quote: Joe McC wrote:
My own politics are left of centre in UK terms....Despite that, I loathe
the shallow revisionist attitude towards Heston - a very fine actor and
a searingly intelligent & seemingly fair human being.
One of the shittiest thing done by any actor in recent memory
was when Tim Roth refused to do a scene with Heston in the
remake of "Planet of the Apes".
Bob T
shittier was when gorilla moore did do a scene with him. |
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| magnulus |
| Posted: Fri Oct 15, 2004 6:28 am |
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| I thought his worst role WAS Moses. |
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| Vince Macek |
| Posted: Fri Oct 15, 2004 7:24 pm |
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Are you implying Planet of the Apes is a sequel to The Ten
Commandments?
"Let my people go, you DAMNED DIRTY APE!!!"
Long as you're also axe-grinding against the Hippie Menace, I'll
mention Taylor's observation that youth has the obligation to rebel
against the status quo. Since this takes place way in the future, I'll
assume hippiedom's hung on all this time. Man.
VMacek
gonif_mamzer@hotmail.com (shlemazeltov) wrote in message news:<1b887f21.0410122155.625bda61@posting.google.com>...
Quote: didn't it go against the kind of roles he'd been famous for?
he'd played moses, ben-hur, etc. noble, dignified, poised, majestic.
also, movies with reverent and deeply conservative values.
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