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| Felix Oscar |
 Posted: Fri Apr 09, 2004 11:25 am |
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I liked Breaking the Waves and Dancer in the Dark. Is Dogville like those?
I also saw Zentropa which I absolutely hated.
What about all the others by Van Trier?
Ebert didn't like Dogville which by the way is 177 minutes. Maybe I'll wait.... |
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| MFalc1 |
| Posted: Sun Apr 11, 2004 3:06 am |
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Felix Oscar wrote (in part):
Quote: Ebert didn't like Dogville which by the way is 177 minutes. Maybe I'll
wait....
DOGVILLE is a surprisingly easy sit considering its length. You may or may not
agree with the "dog eat dog world" thesis of Von Trier, which some people have
denounced as anti-Americanism instead of accepting it as the penetrating view
of the darker side of human nature it is-but it does make for thought-provoking
viewing.
As far as Roger Ebert's review goes, I'll make a conjecture that, at least as
far as the TV show is concerned, he's under increasing pressure to herd
Americans towards mainstream fare and away from more challenging, daring films
(there was one out-of-the-ordinary film he praised recently, but it was a DVD
release). Roeper, a happy hack, probably doesn't mind this kind of prodding at
all.
Mark L. Falconer-film and video links at
http://hometown.aol.com/mfalc1/links.html |
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| Ara Zacis |
| Posted: Sun Apr 11, 2004 8:12 am |
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On 11 Apr 2004 09:06:06 GMT, in rec.arts.movies.current-films,
mfalc1@aol.com (MFalc1) wrote:
Quote: Felix Oscar wrote (in part):
Ebert didn't like Dogville which by the way is 177 minutes. Maybe I'll
wait....
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Quote: As far as Roger Ebert's review goes, I'll make a conjecture that, at least as
far as the TV show is concerned, he's under increasing pressure to herd
Americans towards mainstream fare and away from more challenging, daring films
(there was one out-of-the-ordinary film he praised recently, but it was a DVD
release).
You mean Songs from the Second Floor ? |
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| ELurio |
| Posted: Sun Apr 11, 2004 9:42 am |
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<< he "dog eat dog world" thesis of Von Trier, which some people have
denounced as anti-Americanism instead of accepting it as the penetrating view
of the darker side of human nature >><BR><BR>
Clearly, you haven't seen the movie. The ending credits clearly show the
anti-american bigotry.
eric l. |
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| wylbur37 |
| Posted: Sat Apr 17, 2004 6:11 am |
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mfalc1@aol.com (MFalc1) wrote in message news:<20040411050606.12703.00000109@mb-m24.aol.com>...
Quote: DOGVILLE is a surprisingly easy sit considering its length.
You may or may not agree with the "dog eat dog world" thesis of Von Trier,
which some people have denounced as anti-Americanism instead of
accepting it as the penetrating view of the darker side of human nature
it is-but it does make for thought-provoking viewing.
There seems to be a double-standard, partly because the director is
not an American. Just because the film reveals some of the unpleasant
and embarrassing aspects of American life (especially the stuff shown
at the closing credits), some condemn it as "anti-American".
But there are *plenty* of films that portray negative aspects of
American life/culture, most of them produced by Americans, but these
same people would not automatically label *them* as "anti-American".
The irony is that the people who call the film "anti-American" are
actually acting out the hypocrisy and denial portrayed in the film! |
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| John Harkness |
| Posted: Sat Apr 17, 2004 6:19 am |
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On 17 Apr 2004 05:11:55 -0700, wylbur37nospam@yahoo.com (wylbur37)
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Quote: mfalc1@aol.com (MFalc1) wrote in message news:<20040411050606.12703.00000109@mb-m24.aol.com>...
DOGVILLE is a surprisingly easy sit considering its length.
You may or may not agree with the "dog eat dog world" thesis of Von Trier,
which some people have denounced as anti-Americanism instead of
accepting it as the penetrating view of the darker side of human nature
it is-but it does make for thought-provoking viewing.
There seems to be a double-standard, partly because the director is
not an American. Just because the film reveals some of the unpleasant
and embarrassing aspects of American life (especially the stuff shown
at the closing credits), some condemn it as "anti-American".
But there are *plenty* of films that portray negative aspects of
American life/culture, most of them produced by Americans, but these
same people would not automatically label *them* as "anti-American".
That's easy. I can call my brother a shithead. You call my brother a
shithead, you gotta fight me.
John Harkness |
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