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sir m...
Posted: Tue May 20, 2008 6:31 pm
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On May 20, 11:32 pm, William Hooper <rotoflexSPAMT... at (no spam) yahoo.com>
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If we for example take Chaplin - his pictures were few and far between
from 1920 onwards. He seemed to take years to get around to finishing
one. If then there was no studio system I think that perhaps there
might not have been so many pictures produced? Cinema owners would of
course been clamouring for product and there may have been someone
else other than the "A" list churning out rubbish. The studio system
may not have been perfect but it did make pictures on a sort of
assembly line, got an excellent crew together, got product out there
and occasional made a gem or two.

It is very important to realize that "Cinema owners" at this point to
a very important degree were who OWNED M-G-M.

That title card at the front of each movie is not a joke that says
"MGM - a subsidiary of Loew's, Inc."

The MGM studio was put together by Marcus Loew to provide a steady
flow of acceptable product for his Loew's theatres all over the US, &
Mayer was put in charge of running MGM. It was very much intended to
be a factory providing a steady stream of product for Loew's theatres,
& the extras of whoever they could sell the picture to in markets that
didn't have a theatre owned by Loew's (Loew's operated a lot of
theatres that weren't named "Loew's", usually theatres with an
established name bought in many markets). Mayer had a bottom line &
knew his bosses were concerned with cost-efficient operation &
reliable box-office appeal.

Paramount, which had started first as a studio, paralleled Loew's/MGM
by putting together its own theatrical exhibition chain. So Loew's/
MGM & Paramount (which later called its theatrical arm Publix) were
doing the same thing, they just started from different ends.

"I sell tickets to theatres, not movies." -- Marcus Loew

Chaplin survived because he owned the studio and equipment and he was
producer, director,writer, star actor,and music composer. His lead
actress after Edna, was generally unknown and low cost.
Lloyd Fonvielle...
Posted: Tue May 20, 2008 7:58 pm
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sir m wrote:

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GARSON KANIN recounted his friendship with Harry Cohn and does NOT
demonize the man

Orson Welles was fond of Cohn, because even though he was a monster he
was honest about it -- he didn't pretend to be your friend (or a kindly
father figure like Mayer) and then screw you. He just went ahead and
screwed you.

Cohn was also willing to be bold and even reckless when the mood struck
him. When Welles needed $50,000 in three hours to get his costumes for
the stage production of "Around the World" out of hock, so the play
could open, he said that Cohn was the only guy he knew anywhere he could
turn to. Welles offered Cohn his directing services for a thriller
(which turned out to be "The Lady From Shanghai") and Cohn wired the
money immediately.

Cohn was reasonably satisfied with "The Lady From Shanghai" but told
Welles he would never work with him again, "because when one guy is the
actor and the director and the writer, you can't fire him." All the
great moguls had that kind of ruthlessness, but Cohn made no bones about it.





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Matt Barry...
Posted: Wed May 21, 2008 10:39 am
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"sir m" <mccrohan at (no spam) adam.com.au> wrote in message
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On May 21, 9:58 am, Lloyd Fonvielle <navigareNOS... at (no spam) cox.net> wrote:
sir m wrote:
GARSON KANIN recounted his friendship with Harry Cohn and does NOT
demonize the man

Orson Welles was fond of Cohn, because even though he was a monster he
was honest about it -- he didn't pretend to be your friend (or a kindly
father figure like Mayer) and then screw you. He just went ahead and
screwed you.

Cohn was also willing to be bold and even reckless when the mood struck
him. When Welles needed $50,000 in three hours to get his costumes for
the stage production of "Around the World" out of hock, so the play
could open, he said that Cohn was the only guy he knew anywhere he could
turn to. Welles offered Cohn his directing services for a thriller
(which turned out to be "The Lady From Shanghai") and Cohn wired the
money immediately.

Cohn was reasonably satisfied with "The Lady From Shanghai" but told
Welles he would never work with him again, "because when one guy is the
actor and the director and the writer, you can't fire him." All the
great moguls had that kind of ruthlessness, but Cohn made no bones about
it.

Mar de Cortes Baja

www.mardecortesbaja.com<http://www.mardecortesbaja.com/blog

I find this talk of "monsters ": fanciful" Business
managers.considered the practice of dismissal (firing) as an almost
divine right and would be shocked to hear it described as ruthless.

Cohn is an interesting case for me, because by all accounts he was the most
ruthless of the moguls, operating at a level of constant intimidation that
the other moguls only reached on occasion.

That said, I have to admire the number of really personal films that were
made at Columbia. I have no idea how Cohn felt about the issue personally,
but he seemed to be willing to allow certain directors to have a certain
amount of creative control that Mayer or Warner wouldn't have allowed. Capra
is the big example I'm thinking of here. Now, of course, Capra wouldn't have
been given a fraction of creative freedom if his films hadn't been major
moneymakers for the studio (which, unlike the others, didn't seem to have as
many hits on a yearly basis). However, directors at MGM were never granted
creative freedom no matter how successful they were, and the big ones who
did work there on occasion always found it a stifling experience. At
Columbia, however, Capra was given near-total control, and as a result,
produced some of the most personal American films of the pre-war period.

I recently watched another Columbia release, Howard Hawks' "Only Angels Have
Wings", and it really struck me how he was able to work in so many of his
personal themes and stylistic touches that he may not have been able to do
at, say, MGM.

Obviously, Cohn was interested in the bottom line, as was anyone else in his
position in Hollywood at that time. However, it does seem that there was a
fair degree of leniency under his watch, assuming of course that the films
made money.





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Matt Barry
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