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Wafik HP
Posted: Sun Mar 23, 2008 7:08 am
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i wanna detailed info about IMAX
i knew wikipedia its not enough
plz answer me ?!!!!!
Thanks anyway
Scott Dorsey
Posted: Sun Mar 23, 2008 1:15 pm
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Wafik HP <wahp2009@gmail.com> wrote:
Quote:
i wanna detailed info about IMAX
i knew wikipedia its not enough
plz answer me ?!!!!!
Thanks anyway

What do you want to know? It's VistaVision on steroids.
--scott
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"C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."
Jeffry L. Johnson
Posted: Mon Mar 24, 2008 5:26 pm
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On Sun, 23 Mar 2008 13:08:57 -0400, Wafik HP wrote
(in article
<4cb0064d-2420-4f98-8f84-2fff48f0b94f@s19g2000prg.googlegroups.com>):

Quote:
i wanna detailed info about IMAX
i knew wikipedia its not enough
plz answer me ?!!!!!

http://entertainment.howstuffworks.com/imax.htm
http://www.1570films.com/imax.htm
Peter
Posted: Mon Mar 24, 2008 6:51 pm
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On 2008-03-24 15:26:00 -0700, Jeffry L. Johnson <jlj@apk.net> said:

Quote:
i wanna detailed info about IMAX
i knew wikipedia its not enough
plz answer me ?!!!!!

http://entertainment.howstuffworks.com/imax.htm
http://www.1570films.com/imax.htm

Do a patent search and download all the applicable patents for free using ...

pat2pdf.org

.... and you'll find a lot of wheat in there with some chaff.

There is very little which hasn't been patented, although certain
optical companies don't patent their designs, prefering the trade
secret method of design protection, plus the very high cost of entry
into what is actually a very small market with little upside potential.

In the instant case, the "rolling loop" method is well protected.

--
CinemaScope®: The Modern Miracle You See without Special Glasses!
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Peter
John Mc Keown
Posted: Fri Mar 28, 2008 2:43 pm
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I had a question that I can't get google to answer on IMAX - perhaps someone
here could help me:

Is there a B&W stock available for IMAX?

Also, who makes the regular colour stocks for them?

I also love that the dimensions of the IMAX frame are almost exactly the
same as Billy Bitzer was using in the Biograph camera back around 1910!

http://www.soc.org/opcam/06_sp95/mg06_biocam.html


Thanks for any assistance offered!

John.




"Jeffry L. Johnson" <jlj@apk.net> wrote in message
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Quote:
On Sun, 23 Mar 2008 13:08:57 -0400, Wafik HP wrote
(in article
4cb0064d-2420-4f98-8f84-2fff48f0b94f@s19g2000prg.googlegroups.com>):

i wanna detailed info about IMAX
i knew wikipedia its not enough
plz answer me ?!!!!!

http://entertainment.howstuffworks.com/imax.htm
http://www.1570films.com/imax.htm
in Technicolor®
Posted: Fri Mar 28, 2008 3:21 pm
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Virtually anyone who manufactures film can make film for the IMAX camera
(color, black and white, infrared, orthochromatic, reversal). There is
nothing special about the film for an IMAX camera per se. It is the same
emulsion (-s) used in 35mm photography that's been slit wider and perforated
for the 65mm gauge. Also, not every IMAX release is shot 15perf. A bunch
of stuff now is computer enhanced from 35mm. There has also been some 8
perf. origination as well.

Get your butt to the public (or private library) and read some past issues
of American Cinematographer. If you go to Imax.com and print out the list
of Imax films you can then cross reference those titles with the titles that
have been written up in AC. Back in the day, I didn't spend every weekend
trying to get laid or stoned. I spent a lot of time in the microfilm room
of the library reading old articles on film technology. And I was found
wondering the stacks trying to find books of any vintage on the subject.
Good times and made me a better student. If this is your passion then
embrace it and do the leg work. Don't let Google do all the heavy lifting.

You also may want to check out 1570.com.


"John Mc Keown" <john.mcmenolikespamkeown220@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
news:MTbHj.22865$jH5.2458@newsfe3-win.ntli.net...
Quote:
I had a question that I can't get google to answer on IMAX - perhaps
someone here could help me:

Is there a B&W stock available for IMAX?

Also, who makes the regular colour stocks for them?

I also love that the dimensions of the IMAX frame are almost exactly the
same as Billy Bitzer was using in the Biograph camera back around 1910!

http://www.soc.org/opcam/06_sp95/mg06_biocam.html


Thanks for any assistance offered!

John.




"Jeffry L. Johnson" <jlj@apk.net> wrote in message
news:0001HW.C40DA2B80106B064F01846D8@news.apk.net...
On Sun, 23 Mar 2008 13:08:57 -0400, Wafik HP wrote
(in article
4cb0064d-2420-4f98-8f84-2fff48f0b94f@s19g2000prg.googlegroups.com>):

i wanna detailed info about IMAX
i knew wikipedia its not enough
plz answer me ?!!!!!

http://entertainment.howstuffworks.com/imax.htm
http://www.1570films.com/imax.htm


Scott Dorsey
Posted: Sat Mar 29, 2008 7:17 am
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John Mc Keown <john.mcmenolikespamkeown220@ntlworld.com> wrote:
Quote:
I had a question that I can't get google to answer on IMAX - perhaps someone
here could help me:

Is there a B&W stock available for IMAX?

Sure. Remember, it's just 70mm with type I perfs. Kodak still has a few
70mm aerial film stocks that would run fine through an Imax camera as
well as a Hulcher.

Which is surprising since Kodak is dumping films from the catalogue right
and left. The graphics division used to have a foot-thick book, and now
it's down to three or four films.

Quote:
Also, who makes the regular colour stocks for them?

Kodak and Fuji both make stock that will run in the Imax cameras. And
I think they are pretty much it for color film at all these days.

Ferrania makes some color print films. Orwo and Svema are out of the
color business. Konica-Minolta (nee Sakura) are out of color business.
Agfa is out of business. So Kodak and Fuji are all that is left for
anyone.

Quote:
I also love that the dimensions of the IMAX frame are almost exactly the
same as Billy Bitzer was using in the Biograph camera back around 1910!

http://www.soc.org/opcam/06_sp95/mg06_biocam.html

The thing about 70mm Type I is that you can make it on the same cutters
and perforators that make 35mm.
--scott
--
"C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."
John Mc Keown
Posted: Sat Mar 29, 2008 3:43 pm
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Thanks a lot for your help. It's appreciated!


John.


"Scott Dorsey" <kludge@panix.com> wrote in message
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Quote:
John Mc Keown <john.mcmenolikespamkeown220@ntlworld.com> wrote:
I had a question that I can't get google to answer on IMAX - perhaps
someone
here could help me:

Is there a B&W stock available for IMAX?

Sure. Remember, it's just 70mm with type I perfs. Kodak still has a few
70mm aerial film stocks that would run fine through an Imax camera as
well as a Hulcher.

Which is surprising since Kodak is dumping films from the catalogue right
and left. The graphics division used to have a foot-thick book, and now
it's down to three or four films.

Also, who makes the regular colour stocks for them?

Kodak and Fuji both make stock that will run in the Imax cameras. And
I think they are pretty much it for color film at all these days.

Ferrania makes some color print films. Orwo and Svema are out of the
color business. Konica-Minolta (nee Sakura) are out of color business.
Agfa is out of business. So Kodak and Fuji are all that is left for
anyone.

I also love that the dimensions of the IMAX frame are almost exactly the
same as Billy Bitzer was using in the Biograph camera back around 1910!

http://www.soc.org/opcam/06_sp95/mg06_biocam.html

The thing about 70mm Type I is that you can make it on the same cutters
and perforators that make 35mm.
--scott
--
"C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."
Steve Kraus
Posted: Tue Apr 01, 2008 10:04 pm
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Quote:
Sure. Remember, it's just 70mm with type I perfs.

What is type I perfs? Is that what they call 70mm with 65mm KS perfs?

Quote:
Kodak still has a few 70mm aerial film stocks that would run
fine through an Imax camera as well as a Hulcher.

How would you run 70mm film through a 65mm camera?
Scott Dorsey
Posted: Wed Apr 02, 2008 7:56 am
Guest
Steve Kraus <screen@SPAMBLOCKfilmteknik.com> wrote:
Quote:
Sure. Remember, it's just 70mm with type I perfs.

What is type I perfs? Is that what they call 70mm with 65mm KS perfs?

No, type I perfs are at the edge of the film. Type II is the 65mm KS perf
on 70mm film.

Quote:
Kodak still has a few 70mm aerial film stocks that would run
fine through an Imax camera as well as a Hulcher.

How would you run 70mm film through a 65mm camera?

No, Imax is 70mm, really. It's not 70/8 which is really 65mm. Remember,
Imax uses double-system sound so there's no need to waste space on the film
with a soundtrack.
--scott
--
"C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."
in Technicolor®
Posted: Wed Apr 02, 2008 8:18 am
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Check out: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Film_perforations


"Scott Dorsey" <kludge@panix.com> wrote in message
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Quote:
Steve Kraus <screen@SPAMBLOCKfilmteknik.com> wrote:
Sure. Remember, it's just 70mm with type I perfs.

What is type I perfs? Is that what they call 70mm with 65mm KS perfs?

No, type I perfs are at the edge of the film. Type II is the 65mm KS perf
on 70mm film.

Kodak still has a few 70mm aerial film stocks that would run
fine through an Imax camera as well as a Hulcher.

How would you run 70mm film through a 65mm camera?

No, Imax is 70mm, really. It's not 70/8 which is really 65mm. Remember,
Imax uses double-system sound so there's no need to waste space on the
film
with a soundtrack.
--scott
--
"C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."
Steve Kraus
Posted: Sun Apr 06, 2008 11:19 pm
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Scott Dorsey wrote:

Quote:
No, Imax is 70mm, really.

The print is. The camera shoots 65mm.

Quote:
Remember, Imax uses double-system sound so there's no need to waste
space on the film with a soundtrack.

There may be no need to but they do. Maybe they put timecode there; I
haven't seen that variant. But IMAX is definitely 70mm-with-65mm perfs.
I've not handled any IMAX 65mm negative but it would be rather foolish to
use a 70mm negative as you would not be able to contact print to 70(65)
print stock. Obviously you've never seen what an IMAX print looks like so
check this out:

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y129/filmteknik/misc/imax1.jpg

(taped to the LCD monitor hence the interference patterns)

And if you rummage around the IMAX Corp. website you will find references
to IMAX 65mm cameras.
Scott Dorsey
Posted: Mon Apr 07, 2008 12:36 pm
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Steve Kraus <screen@SPAMBLOCKfilmteknik.com> wrote:
Quote:
Scott Dorsey wrote:

No, Imax is 70mm, really.

The print is. The camera shoots 65mm.

Oops, you're right, they are Type II perfs! I am thinking of Astrovision
with the Type I.
--scott

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"C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."
Steve Kraus
Posted: Mon Apr 07, 2008 8:56 pm
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I never really think in terms of Type this or that EXCEPT I have seen a
70mm camera with some sort of wider perfs that was used for filming rocket
launches and I thought that was Type I or something like that. The camera
I examined had a beater type movement.
Kevin Willoughby
Posted: Mon Apr 07, 2008 9:36 pm
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In article <heydneQh4YYsTWfanZ2dnUVZ_qLinZ2d@earthlink.com>,
screen@SPAMBLOCKfilmteknik.com says...
Quote:
I never really think in terms of Type this or that EXCEPT I have seen a
70mm camera with some sort of wider perfs that was used for filming rocket
launches

I've seen big rocket launches filmed in 3-D IMAX. Very impressive, but,
well, I wish they had used a vertical, not horizontal, format.
--
Kevin Willoughby kevinwilloughby@acm.org.invalid

Kansas City, this was Air Force One. Will you change
our call sign to SAM 27000? -- Col. Ralph Albertazzie
 
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