Another nice new feature.  You can record on one partition and copy a
different one to the DVD or FW drive.  Comes in handy when post wants
something re-copied or the format changed. You don't have to interrupt
your current work flow. You can continue recording into your current
folder with your current specs while telling DEVA to change the folder
and specs for the mirror drive.

On 12 Mrz., 14:57, Billy Sarokin <bigm...@verizon.net> wrote:

Another nice new feature.  You can record on one partition and copy a
different one to the DVD or FW drive.  Comes in handy when post wants
something re-copied or the format changed. You don't have to interrupt
your current work flow. You can continue recording into your current
folder with your current specs while telling DEVA to change the folder
and specs for the mirror drive.

What happens to the track-names in that scenario? Will they all be
named after the current naming or by the ones you used when you
actually recorded the takes?

frank.

In article
b9702fdf-64d5-4695-b334-4f4d673fd...@d62g2000hsf.googlegroups.com>,

 wildt®ax <wildtraxs...@gmx.de> wrote:
I wanted to point out that this function to me makes no sense unless
they fix the track-naming issue because even if the recordist HAS made
sure to burn every time before he changed the track-names when he
burned the first DVD he would be screwed if he needed to re-burn a day
another time because all the tracks would be named with a static and
wrong setting.

frank.

Has anyone confirmed that the track names are lost when burning the 2nd
DVD after the fact? There seems to be some conflicting answers on this
one. If the track names are indeed part of the file metadata, it seems
that everytime that file is copied, the metadata, including the track
naming, would travel with it. I know the Deva does not display the track
name that is in the metadata already (on playback for example) so is
this what is confusing the issue?

-  Jeff Wexler

I wanted to point out that this function to me makes no sense unless
they fix the track-naming issue because even if the recordist HAS made
sure to burn every time before he changed the track-names when he
burned the first DVD he would be screwed if he needed to re-burn a day
another time because all the tracks would be named with a static and
wrong setting.

frank.

What happens to the track-names in that scenario? Will they all be
named after the current naming or by the ones you used when you
actually recorded the takes?

frank.

I wanted to point out that this function to me makes no sense unless
they fix the track-naming issue because even if the recordist HAS made
sure to burn every time before he changed the track-names when he
burned the first DVD he would be screwed if he needed to re-burn a day
another time because all the tracks would be named with a static and
wrong setting.

frank.

I wanted to point out that this function to me makes no sense unless
they fix the track-naming issue because even if the recordist HAS made
sure to burn every time before he changed the track-names when he
burned the first DVD he would be screwed if he needed to re-burn a day
another time because all the tracks would be named with a static and
wrong setting.

frank.

I'm not sure that is the case, though I find this new function very
helpful.  I am often asked by post for a new dvd days after the fact
because they want me to change the track count or the file format.
One common request is when I record  or 10 tracks and the dailies
system can only handle 8.  Without this new feature I'd have to burn
the new dvd at lunch or wrap.  With the new feature I can burn it
anytime I have 30 seconds to pop in a new dvd and tell it to copy the
partition from days or even weeks ago.  As soon as I set it up I can
continue recording on the current partition.
Billy

I wanted to point out that this function to me makes no sense unless
they fix the track-naming issue because even if the recordist HAS made
sure to burn every time before he changed the track-names when he
burned the first DVD he would be screwed if he needed to re-burn a day
another time because all the tracks would be named with a static and
wrong setting.

frank.


You missed my point.

frank.

Hi Frank,

As far as I can work out you are incorrect. The track names ARE
stamped into each file's metadata. They change as you change them -
they get stamped in each and every time you hit the record button.

The only thing that I think can occur is that if you change a file's
STN after it has been mirrored off to ext media. In that scenario you
will need to restart the mirror from the segment number that you
changed the STN on. In practice I rarely have to do this, and 99 times
out of a hundred I am changing the shot from 2 or 3 segments ago, in
which casr it is a minor issue.

Kindest regards,

Simon B



I wanted to point out that this function to me makes no sense unless
they fix the track-naming issue because even if the recordist HAS made
sure to burn every time before he changed the track-names when he
burned the first DVD he would be screwed if he needed to re-burn a day
another time because all the tracks would be named with a static and
wrong setting.

frank.

You missed my point.

frank.

Has anyone confirmed that the track names are lost when burning the 2nd
DVD after the fact? There seems to be some conflicting answers on this
one. If the track names are indeed part of the file metadata, it seems
that everytime that file is copied, the metadata, including the track
naming, would travel with it. I know the Deva does not display the track
name that is in the metadata already (on playback for example) so is
this what is confusing the issue?

-  Jeff Wexler

Thanks Simon,
that´s good news. With wich firmware did you try this?

Thanks,
frank

 Hi Frank,
I did some checking and SImon is correct.  Track names are written as
meta data. As soon as you hit RECORD the data is written on the hard
drive (and depending on how your mirroring process is set up, the
secondary drive too).  If you change any of the meta data at a later
point it will make the change on the internal hard drive but not on a
secondary drive that has already been written.  In that case you tell
the Deva to re-mirror the secondary drive from the segment number you
made the changes. I do it all the time when a scene number has changed
after I started recording the take.
Best,
Billy

I have been using the limiters in my units, and have definitely heard
what you are both talking about. If I turn the limiters off, where do
you think a good place to start the gain at would be? I'm afraid to go
to hot without the limiters engaged!

~Thomas

My wish list for the radios?