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| Larry |
 Posted: Tue Jan 01, 2008 3:43 pm |
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I had the opportunity for the first time to see DLP projection. This
was the movie National Treasure II shown at the Regal Hacienda in
Dublin, CA.
A couple of observations about the projection. The logo was Dolby
Digital Cinema but I suspect given that the projection was DLP the
technology was DLP
1. PQ was very good for the most part and certainly quite acceptable
2. Low light was not good - lots of low light scenes has noticeable
video noise (hard to describe but I saw the same artifacts in a film
version of Miami Vice in the low light night scenes). I guess would
have to see the movie on film to see how film would present those
scenes
3. AR seemed slightly wrong - assuming the movie was shot either
anamorphic or Super35 it seemed that the image was vertically
stretched enough so that the image looked slightly compressed (actors
faces fatter than they should be).
Wonder why that would be the case
Larry |
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| Bhairitu |
| Posted: Fri Jan 04, 2008 3:31 pm |
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Larry wrote:
Quote: I had the opportunity for the first time to see DLP projection. This
was the movie National Treasure II shown at the Regal Hacienda in
Dublin, CA.
A couple of observations about the projection. The logo was Dolby
Digital Cinema but I suspect given that the projection was DLP the
technology was DLP
1. PQ was very good for the most part and certainly quite acceptable
2. Low light was not good - lots of low light scenes has noticeable
video noise (hard to describe but I saw the same artifacts in a film
version of Miami Vice in the low light night scenes). I guess would
have to see the movie on film to see how film would present those
scenes
3. AR seemed slightly wrong - assuming the movie was shot either
anamorphic or Super35 it seemed that the image was vertically
stretched enough so that the image looked slightly compressed (actors
faces fatter than they should be).
Wonder why that would be the case
Larry
Was that a Christie system? They usually run an ad when the show starts
up. I saw the same film at the Martinez Contra Costa Cinemas where all
8 auditoriums are running Christies. I didn't notice the AR being off
and remember that one of the landscapes (that of London, I think) was
very sharp.
Having an 8 screen digital theater a couple blocks away has made me
spoiled. You don't have to put up with splices, scratches or leader
running off at the end of a showing which was what happened at the local
Cinearts when I saw "Valley of Elah" on film. I've yet to see an out of
focus presentation either. However on "I Am Legend" an action scene
probably blew one of the surrounds and the rest of the presentation had
distortion on low volume dialog.
I also noted at presentations at Cinearts and the Pleasant Hill Century
16 they are using digital projectors for ads and music videos before the
show starts. They're probably Barcos.
Did the Regal also play the new Goofy cartoon about setting up a home
theater right before "National Treasure"? |
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| Larry |
| Posted: Sun Jan 06, 2008 12:31 pm |
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On Jan 5, 8:31 am, Bhairitu <noozg...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
Quote: Larry wrote:
I had the opportunity for the first time to see DLP projection. This
was the movie National Treasure II shown at the Regal Hacienda in
Dublin, CA.
A couple of observations about the projection. The logo was Dolby
Digital Cinema but I suspect given that the projection was DLP the
technology was DLP
1. PQ was very good for the most part and certainly quite acceptable
2. Low light was not good - lots of low light scenes has noticeable
video noise (hard to describe but I saw the same artifacts in a film
version of Miami Vice in the low light night scenes). I guess would
have to see the movie on film to see how film would present those
scenes
3. AR seemed slightly wrong - assuming the movie was shot either
anamorphic or Super35 it seemed that the image was vertically
stretched enough so that the image looked slightly compressed (actors
faces fatter than they should be).
Wonder why that would be the case
Larry
Was that a Christie system? They usually run an ad when the show starts
up. I saw the same film at the Martinez Contra Costa Cinemas where all
8 auditoriums are running Christies. I didn't notice the AR being off
and remember that one of the landscapes (that of London, I think) was
very sharp.
Having an 8 screen digital theater a couple blocks away has made me
spoiled. You don't have to put up with splices, scratches or leader
running off at the end of a showing which was what happened at the local
Cinearts when I saw "Valley of Elah" on film. I've yet to see an out of
focus presentation either. However on "I Am Legend" an action scene
probably blew one of the surrounds and the rest of the presentation had
distortion on low volume dialog.
I also noted at presentations at Cinearts and the Pleasant Hill Century
16 they are using digital projectors for ads and music videos before the
show starts. They're probably Barcos.
Did the Regal also play the new Goofy cartoon about setting up a home
theater right before "National Treasure"?
Don't think it was a Christie system. The opening ad was for Dolby
Digital Cinema.
They were also using digital projection for ads and some trailers but
they were not that high quality since you could see pixel structure
etc. on the screen. Since this was my first experience with digital
projection I was really hoping that the main feature was not using
this gear!
AR looked slightly off to me - as if the screen wasn't tall enough but
only slightly.
And they did play the Goofy cartoon. What a hoot. I can certainly
relate to that. Apparently it's shown at all National Treasure II
screenings. |
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| Bhairitu |
| Posted: Sun Jan 06, 2008 10:32 pm |
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Larry wrote:
Quote: On Jan 5, 8:31 am, Bhairitu <noozg...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
Larry wrote:
I had the opportunity for the first time to see DLP projection. This
was the movie National Treasure II shown at the Regal Hacienda in
Dublin, CA.
A couple of observations about the projection. The logo was Dolby
Digital Cinema but I suspect given that the projection was DLP the
technology was DLP
1. PQ was very good for the most part and certainly quite acceptable
2. Low light was not good - lots of low light scenes has noticeable
video noise (hard to describe but I saw the same artifacts in a film
version of Miami Vice in the low light night scenes). I guess would
have to see the movie on film to see how film would present those
scenes
3. AR seemed slightly wrong - assuming the movie was shot either
anamorphic or Super35 it seemed that the image was vertically
stretched enough so that the image looked slightly compressed (actors
faces fatter than they should be).
Wonder why that would be the case
Larry
Was that a Christie system? They usually run an ad when the show starts
up. I saw the same film at the Martinez Contra Costa Cinemas where all
8 auditoriums are running Christies. I didn't notice the AR being off
and remember that one of the landscapes (that of London, I think) was
very sharp.
Having an 8 screen digital theater a couple blocks away has made me
spoiled. You don't have to put up with splices, scratches or leader
running off at the end of a showing which was what happened at the local
Cinearts when I saw "Valley of Elah" on film. I've yet to see an out of
focus presentation either. However on "I Am Legend" an action scene
probably blew one of the surrounds and the rest of the presentation had
distortion on low volume dialog.
I also noted at presentations at Cinearts and the Pleasant Hill Century
16 they are using digital projectors for ads and music videos before the
show starts. They're probably Barcos.
Did the Regal also play the new Goofy cartoon about setting up a home
theater right before "National Treasure"?
Don't think it was a Christie system. The opening ad was for Dolby
Digital Cinema.
Dolby Digital Cinema is the player.
http://www.dolby.com/professional/motion_picture/solutions_digitalcinemas.html
The Regal isn't listed in the PDF of theaters on Christie's site. It
could either be a Barco or an NEC projector.
http://dlp.com/cinema/default.aspx
At the CinemaWest chain theaters (Martinez and Livermore and other Bay
Area locations) the opening ad is for the Christie with the wedge like logo.
http://www.christiedigital.com/AMEN/Markets/DigitalCinema/
If you look up in the projection booth you can see the big box like
projector. They are able to move in a film projector if a digital
version of the movie is not available.
http://cinemawest.com/ |
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| William Hooper |
| Posted: Mon Jan 07, 2008 12:38 am |
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On Jan 6, 8:32 pm, Bhairitu <noozg...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
Quote: http://cinemawest.com/
What's this extra window up on the house right side at the Sebastopol?
http://cinemawest.com/cwpics/seb1.jpg
Is it an old "manager's window", an added booth, or what? |
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| in TechnicolorŪ |
| Posted: Mon Jan 07, 2008 1:05 pm |
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It might be a "crying room". The Cinema 21 in Portland, OR has one in its
balcony area.
"William Hooper" <rotoflexSPAMTRAP@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:c6c22d8b-12d1-49df-a3b1-d57253e0b2a1@f3g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...
On Jan 6, 8:32 pm, Bhairitu <noozg...@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
Quote: http://cinemawest.com/
What's this extra window up on the house right side at the Sebastopol?
http://cinemawest.com/cwpics/seb1.jpg
Is it an old "manager's window", an added booth, or what? |
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| Allen Hollis |
| Posted: Mon Jan 07, 2008 2:25 pm |
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Regal is a member and part owner of the National Cinema Media, which also
includes AMC, Cinemark and some other smaller theatre owners. NCM has a
program in place to transform all their owner circuits to digital
projection. NCM also uses small BARCO digital projectors for their pre-show
ads and entertainment. I understand that NCM allows the theatre company to
choose what system they want to use, Dolby Digital Projection, BARCO,
Christie, or other digital manufacture. The Dolby Digital Projection is a
recent entry into the commercial digital projection field and only started
using their system for the Disney 3D film Chicken Little in 2005.
Since Christie is also connected with AccessIT, a company that leases
digital projection systems as NCM does, it is more than likely that the
Regal, UA, AMC, and Cinemark would use the Dolby or BARCO system and not
Christie.
I cannot explain the poor AR that was experienced at the Regal theatre.
Since Dolby has an excellent product, I would again say that it was the
theatre's neglect. I guess we will never be rid of the high school
projectionist.
The Goofy cartoon was great. Someone at Disney has great humor and must
have had some experience with setting up a home theatre. I think someone
was spying on me when I set mine up.
"Larry" <lchiu7@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:25f6ad72-c046-4620-becd-36e877149d33@i7g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
Quote: I had the opportunity for the first time to see DLP projection. This
was the movie National Treasure II shown at the Regal Hacienda in
Dublin, CA.
A couple of observations about the projection. The logo was Dolby
Digital Cinema but I suspect given that the projection was DLP the
technology was DLP
1. PQ was very good for the most part and certainly quite acceptable
2. Low light was not good - lots of low light scenes has noticeable
video noise (hard to describe but I saw the same artifacts in a film
version of Miami Vice in the low light night scenes). I guess would
have to see the movie on film to see how film would present those
scenes
3. AR seemed slightly wrong - assuming the movie was shot either
anamorphic or Super35 it seemed that the image was vertically
stretched enough so that the image looked slightly compressed (actors
faces fatter than they should be).
Wonder why that would be the case
Larry |
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| Larry |
| Posted: Fri Jan 11, 2008 10:54 pm |
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On Jan 8, 7:25 am, "Allen Hollis" <ahollis...@comcast.net> wrote:..
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Since Christie is also connected with AccessIT, a company that leases
digital projection systems as NCM does, it is more than likely that the
Regal, UA, AMC, and Cinemark would use the Dolby or BARCO system and not
Christie.
Out of interest then what projection system would they use (Dolby of
course for the source but what about the actual display)
Quote: I cannot explain the poor AR that was experienced at the Regal theatre.
Since Dolby has an excellent product, I would again say that it was the
theatre's neglect. I guess we will never be rid of the high school
projectionist.
It wasn't too bad - just slightly squashed
Quote: The Goofy cartoon was great. Someone at Disney has great humor and must
have had some experience with setting up a home theatre. I think someone
was spying on me when I set mine up.
Agreed - while deliberately OTT, it was hilarious and of course those
of us with HT systems could certainly relate to it
Quote: "Larry" <lch...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:25f6ad72-c046-4620-becd-36e877149d33@i7g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
I had the opportunity for the first time to see DLP projection. This
was the movie National Treasure II shown at the Regal Hacienda in
Dublin, CA.
A couple of observations about the projection. The logo was Dolby
Digital Cinema but I suspect given that the projection was DLP the
technology was DLP
1. PQ was very good for the most part and certainly quite acceptable
2. Low light was not good - lots of low light scenes has noticeable
video noise (hard to describe but I saw the same artifacts in a film
version of Miami Vice in the low light night scenes). I guess would
have to see the movie on film to see how film would present those
scenes
3. AR seemed slightly wrong - assuming the movie was shot either
anamorphic or Super35 it seemed that the image was vertically
stretched enough so that the image looked slightly compressed (actors
faces fatter than they should be).
Wonder why that would be the case
Larry |
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